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T O P I C R E V I E Warcturus90Ate was the goddess of impulsive actions This word means "passing madness caused by an action of a god or evil spirit" for Ancient GreeksWhere's your Ate (111) ?RandallFirst time I've heard of this one.mirage29Hi Arcturus...Where are your own placements? ref Mark Andrew Holmes, quoted materialAsteroid 111 Ate discovered on August 14, 1870 by C.H.F. Peters at Clinton, New York. Ate has a period of 4 years, 67 days.It was named for the goddess of mischief, infatuation, rash action, and discord in Greek mythology. For stirring up trouble on Olympus, she was grabbed by the hair and hurled out by Zeus, who banned her forever from the company of the gods. At the marriage of Peleus and Thetis, **Ate, who hadn't been invited, rolled into the wedding the golden apple labeled "For The Fairest" that led to the Judgment of Paris, a main cause of the Trojan War.Astrologically, asteroid Ate seems to indicate foolishness, making incendiary statements, stirring up trouble, sowing discord.unquoteSounds a lot like **Eris, doesn't she? - http://markandrewholmes.com/ate.html arcturus90My Ate is in Scorpio.. well aspecting Uranus in CapricornI found out this asteroid in the list of asteroids, then I checked on google to see what this name means. Apparently there already is a description of this asteroid in Mark Andrew Holmes asteroids website, thanksSounds like Eris ? But Ate is more impulsive, I think LerenaAte's reputation for being impulsive is funny, because my Ate is in Aries and Aries is known for being impulsive too. I have Ate in 5th house. Its tightest aspects are with my Sun and Pluto.arcturus90@lerena : So you should be twice more impulsive ! arcturus90Ate, represents the moment when we act without thinking.. hypatia238^ I like that definition a lot better bc the other stuff makes Ate sound like a troll and drama queen, something I am far from. I do like to say things for shock value and am rebellious and maybe do things for shock value too but I avoid drama and wars and if I troll is in a joking playful way. When I say something for shock value is either in a playful way to have fun or bc I want people to expand their minds.I have jupiter conjunct uranus in the 1H square Ate in the 4H.I guess you can say in the past I was quick to stand for what I believed in, I was an activist for a while and took great risks taking a stance against laws I feel should not exist in the first place.But I am not like that anymore, I keep to myself, I am more on the down low, including my views, I avoid making myself a target now as I almost got in great trouble. I am not as passionate about politics as I use to be bc it just causes too much division. My views are more private now but I will always be a rebel inside.hypatia238I guess my Ate serves the goals of my Jupiter conjunct Uranus.Moving to Colorado from Miami, I thought could purely be explained by my Jupiter conjunt Uranus (4H ruler) but I suppose the square to Ate also gives me the guts to do it too, to put my Jupiter conjunct Uranus aspirations or visions into action. Ate maybe helps the person take action in the areas it aspects. Ate maybe is a risk taker, perhaps that is a better way to explain how it manifests in my chart.BUT I don't like to start trouble or Drama. I love peace, my Harmonia trines and sextiles my AC/DC.arcturus90Hypatia : yes but this goddess is a goddess of disastrous bewilderment (I don't know if this translation makes sense). It's written. So it's for sure an asteroid for something a little dramatic. But maybe you're right. If it's written "act without thinking", maybe it could be not dramatic, too. Randall : yeah well I found out this asteroid by accident in the full list of asteroids, maybe that's why.. But apparently we can find some information about it on internetMoonMystic hypatia238I think all planets can manifest potentially in a negative or positive way. Most people have Ate doing something in their chart even if it is just aspecting another asteroid.But I think impulsiveness is a good way to describe this aspect in its more negative way of manifesting and bravery in its more positive way of manifesting. It could even manifest as stirring things up and stirring things up can lead to trouble but not necessarily, it can be done in a positive way too, it can also lead to making positive changes in your life. Risk taking can be another way to describe how this asteroid can manifest.I think astrology will be more complete if we always explore both the negative and positive ways an object can manifest itself.OJ Simpson has Sun conjunct ATE close to 5 degrees but they are also parallel, his Sun in Cancer is his Chart RULER!SUN 22°24'57" NATE 22°29'46" N VERTEX 22°52'45" SWell in his case impulsiveness manifested in the worse possible way, crime of passion. He was famous and wealthy and his impulsiveness ruined his life but that same bravery made him famous as a football player which led to brain injuries.Pablo Escobar has:Ate conjunct Jupiter in the 11th by 1d square his Moon in Aries and Square his Venus. He was definitely rash and impulsive, broke laws and was a huge risk taker and made a lot of money because of it but it was also his demise.Then there is Mother Teresa:Her PLUTO rules her 11th house and conjuncts her DC which forms an exact square with ATE.You can argue that she was brave and took great risks to help the needy. Her brave, impulsive and risk taking nature was channeled to help the needy/sick one on one in a very personal way.Ron Paul who is a doctor and also ran for president has Ate conjunct Venus square chiron (healing, medicine). I think you have to be brave and a risk taker to put yourself through med school, most people feel intimated by the idea of putting themselves through med school. You also need to have markers of discipline in you chart to get through med school but that brave/risk taking piece also needs to be there.My mother has Sun square Ate, she has accomplished a lot. She is doctor too and came to the US and did everything required of her to be able to practice here as well. She has done multiple medical missions to 3rd world countries and has written a book, been on TV in the Dominican Republic, and was on the radio on a radio show in Miami for a while there. She does specialize in ADD/ADHD and impulse control issues. She takes risks a lot and is brave but in a very positive way ALWAYS. She takes on challenges and bets on herself. She has never broken the law. My mother is a Capricorn with Venus and mars in Aquarius, she is hardworking and a humanitarian.Then there is Hitler with Sun square Ate. No risk, no gain. Ate can be a strength or a weakness depending on how you allow the energy to manifest in your life and how the rest of your chart supports that.Somna7HFound my Asteroid Ate(111) is in Sag at 0 Deg with Uranus at 0 Deg in Sag too and both conjunct my 7th Cusp.arcturus90hypatia : Yes well if that's how you feel this ! Maybe you're right. I have not checked that this asteroid represents impulsivity and a combative side yet. arcturus90Thanks all for your input !StelliaInteresting shout this one - turns out i have Ate closely conjunct my chiron - and squine my natal mars.I have a history of self-harm - I'm thinking impulsive actions (Ate) plus the centaur of the unhealed wound (chiron) would absolutely mark that. The squine to mars is interesting because the self-harm would often originate from intense self-directed anger.Somna7H quote:Originally posted by Somna7H:Found my Asteroid Ate(111) is in Sag at 0 Deg with Uranus at 0 Deg in Sag too and both conjunct my 7th Cusp.What can I expect from Ate here ? http://imgur.com/TNHLQu0 arcturus90 quote:Originally posted by Somna7H: What can I expect from Ate here ? http://imgur.com/TNHLQu0 With Ate in Scorpio, impulsive acts are related to instincts, sometimes bad instincts, and suspicion.. And I'd say that in Sagittarius it's related with judgments. As Ate conjuncts one planet in your chart, its influence is increased. And this kind of impulsivity is related with Uranus characteristics. Uranus and Ate work together : impulsivity and originality, unexpectedness, rebellion, etcSomna7H quote:Originally posted by arcturus90: With Ate in Scorpio, impulsive acts are related to instincts, sometimes bad instincts, and suspicion.. And I'd say that in Sagittarius it's related with judgments. As Ate conjuncts one planet in your chart, its influence is increased. And this kind of impulsivity is related with Uranus characteristics. Uranus and Ate work together : impulsivity and originality, unexpectedness, rebellion, etcThanks!Recently just found that asteroid 151 Abundantia is also at 0° 36' in Sag.So Retrograde Uranus become more more Unexpected.RandallInteresting!
This word means "passing madness caused by an action of a god or evil spirit" for Ancient Greeks
Where's your Ate (111) ?
ref Mark Andrew Holmes, quoted material
Asteroid 111 Ate discovered on August 14, 1870 by C.H.F. Peters at Clinton, New York. Ate has a period of 4 years, 67 days.
It was named for the goddess of mischief, infatuation, rash action, and discord in Greek mythology. For stirring up trouble on Olympus, she was grabbed by the hair and hurled out by Zeus, who banned her forever from the company of the gods. At the marriage of Peleus and Thetis, **Ate, who hadn't been invited, rolled into the wedding the golden apple labeled "For The Fairest" that led to the Judgment of Paris, a main cause of the Trojan War.
Astrologically, asteroid Ate seems to indicate foolishness, making incendiary statements, stirring up trouble, sowing discord.
unquote
Sounds a lot like **Eris, doesn't she?
- http://markandrewholmes.com/ate.html
I do like to say things for shock value and am rebellious and maybe do things for shock value too but I avoid drama and wars and if I troll is in a joking playful way. When I say something for shock value is either in a playful way to have fun or bc I want people to expand their minds.
I have jupiter conjunct uranus in the 1H square Ate in the 4H.
I guess you can say in the past I was quick to stand for what I believed in, I was an activist for a while and took great risks taking a stance against laws I feel should not exist in the first place.
But I am not like that anymore, I keep to myself, I am more on the down low, including my views, I avoid making myself a target now as I almost got in great trouble. I am not as passionate about politics as I use to be bc it just causes too much division. My views are more private now but I will always be a rebel inside.
Moving to Colorado from Miami, I thought could purely be explained by my Jupiter conjunt Uranus (4H ruler) but I suppose the square to Ate also gives me the guts to do it too, to put my Jupiter conjunct Uranus aspirations or visions into action.
Ate maybe helps the person take action in the areas it aspects. Ate maybe is a risk taker, perhaps that is a better way to explain how it manifests in my chart.
BUT I don't like to start trouble or Drama. I love peace, my Harmonia trines and sextiles my AC/DC.
Randall : yeah well I found out this asteroid by accident in the full list of asteroids, maybe that's why.. But apparently we can find some information about it on internet
But I think impulsiveness is a good way to describe this aspect in its more negative way of manifesting and bravery in its more positive way of manifesting. It could even manifest as stirring things up and stirring things up can lead to trouble but not necessarily, it can be done in a positive way too, it can also lead to making positive changes in your life. Risk taking can be another way to describe how this asteroid can manifest.
I think astrology will be more complete if we always explore both the negative and positive ways an object can manifest itself.
OJ Simpson has Sun conjunct ATE close to 5 degrees but they are also parallel, his Sun in Cancer is his Chart RULER!
SUN 22°24'57" NATE 22°29'46" N
VERTEX 22°52'45" S
Well in his case impulsiveness manifested in the worse possible way, crime of passion. He was famous and wealthy and his impulsiveness ruined his life but that same bravery made him famous as a football player which led to brain injuries.
Pablo Escobar has:Ate conjunct Jupiter in the 11th by 1d square his Moon in Aries and Square his Venus. He was definitely rash and impulsive, broke laws and was a huge risk taker and made a lot of money because of it but it was also his demise.
Then there is Mother Teresa:Her PLUTO rules her 11th house and conjuncts her DC which forms an exact square with ATE.
You can argue that she was brave and took great risks to help the needy. Her brave, impulsive and risk taking nature was channeled to help the needy/sick one on one in a very personal way.
Ron Paul who is a doctor and also ran for president has Ate conjunct Venus square chiron (healing, medicine). I think you have to be brave and a risk taker to put yourself through med school, most people feel intimated by the idea of putting themselves through med school. You also need to have markers of discipline in you chart to get through med school but that brave/risk taking piece also needs to be there.
My mother has Sun square Ate, she has accomplished a lot. She is doctor too and came to the US and did everything required of her to be able to practice here as well. She has done multiple medical missions to 3rd world countries and has written a book, been on TV in the Dominican Republic, and was on the radio on a radio show in Miami for a while there. She does specialize in ADD/ADHD and impulse control issues. She takes risks a lot and is brave but in a very positive way ALWAYS. She takes on challenges and bets on herself. She has never broken the law. My mother is a Capricorn with Venus and mars in Aquarius, she is hardworking and a humanitarian.
Then there is Hitler with Sun square Ate.
No risk, no gain. Ate can be a strength or a weakness depending on how you allow the energy to manifest in your life and how the rest of your chart supports that.
I have a history of self-harm - I'm thinking impulsive actions (Ate) plus the centaur of the unhealed wound (chiron) would absolutely mark that. The squine to mars is interesting because the self-harm would often originate from intense self-directed anger.
quote:Originally posted by Somna7H:Found my Asteroid Ate(111) is in Sag at 0 Deg with Uranus at 0 Deg in Sag too and both conjunct my 7th Cusp.
What can I expect from Ate here ? http://imgur.com/TNHLQu0
quote:Originally posted by Somna7H: What can I expect from Ate here ? http://imgur.com/TNHLQu0
With Ate in Scorpio, impulsive acts are related to instincts, sometimes bad instincts, and suspicion.. And I'd say that in Sagittarius it's related with judgments. As Ate conjuncts one planet in your chart, its influence is increased. And this kind of impulsivity is related with Uranus characteristics. Uranus and Ate work together : impulsivity and originality, unexpectedness, rebellion, etc
quote:Originally posted by arcturus90: With Ate in Scorpio, impulsive acts are related to instincts, sometimes bad instincts, and suspicion.. And I'd say that in Sagittarius it's related with judgments. As Ate conjuncts one planet in your chart, its influence is increased. And this kind of impulsivity is related with Uranus characteristics. Uranus and Ate work together : impulsivity and originality, unexpectedness, rebellion, etc
Thanks!Recently just found that asteroid 151 Abundantia is also at 0° 36' in Sag.So Retrograde Uranus become more more Unexpected.
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