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T O P I C R E V I E WRunAroundScreamingWhat're your experiences with this aspect, both in composite and synastry?RunAroundScreamingBump.........Come on this aspect is so beautiful to meTxGirlWell, I got my boyfriends correct birth time and his sun is square my pluto in house 12 in Scorpio. Uhm, I don't know alot about astrology but Pluto has to do with secrets and what not. I don't know lol!But we're very intense, maybe a bit obsessed with one another. I have never trusted a man, ever. They always lie (the ones I've been with anyways), and he hasn't lied to me. I fully trust him.And it's quite amazing how he can read me, no one can read me like him. I don't have to say anything or do the "I'm fine" girl thing. He knows, and he cares and it's really refreshing- for me I've always wanted someone who I didn't have to explain every little detail to.I think maybe with the little I know of astrology, I have opened up to him alot and he has forced me to understand myself- not really him as much as just the relationship I guess. I understand me more, and I accepting myself and he deals with me really well which makes my learning a lot easier I guess? It all feels like that cliche thing- OMG I've never felt this before. But, I have really never felt this before. We have alot of deep talks our bedroom life is HOT- we get eachother and it just works.On the other hand our arguments lol. Not ever big ones but I get quiet and go into a shell so my scorp rising doesn't lash out and he just sits and waits with me. Though I have a tendency to make him feel guilty (not meaning to do that :/). But, I've learned how to control that more, and loosen up.I don't even know if that has to do with it just a guess.I thought squares were supposed to be bad aspects but there is nothing really wrong and nothing being hidden. I dunno!MertSerimerCited...**In Composite Chart**The square combination of the Sun and Pluto signifies power, and in its simplest and most blatant form it usually means power struggles between you. The problem is that one of you has a strong desire to transform the other into something that he or she is not.Pluto always operates on a relationship at a very deep level. There is absolutely nothing superficial about its operation. Even if you are not trying to change your partner, you will. And the changes will be felt from the innermost depths to the outermost reaches of your lives.One problem that can arise with this aspect is a serious conflict of life directions. This is likely to be the source of considerable ego conflict between you.The only way to deal with the energy of this aspect is to avoid all ego games. Confine yourselves to real sources of conflict and don't indulge in mutual harassment over small matters that you do not really care about but are using to score points at the other's expense. ***In SYNASTY***What does it mean for your relationship when your natal Pluto is square your partner's Sun? A Pluto square Sun aspect can bring challenging insights. You and your romantic partner are likely to have a profound effect upon one another and you will experience romantic life on a whole new spiritual level. If your partner's Pluto is square your Sun, you may find yourself giving up everything you thought you had in order to begin your relationship. This will very likely be the most intense partnership you have known. No matter what, this relationship has a powerful impact on both of your lives. You find your partner utterly fascinating, intriguing, and even mesmerizing. You are drawn to the Pluto person in a way that can be hard to verbalize. After meeting him or her, you feel like a fish out of water if that person is not around! The fascination is mutual, in fact, although your partner tends to have the "upper hand", so to speak, when it comes to the ultimate fate of the relationship. Why? Because you feel intensely expressive and unique—special, if you will—as a direct result of the Pluto person's attention, and he or she may feel the need to control that expression as the relationship passes the initial stages (which is likely to have been characterized by intense mutual attraction). Your partner can sometimes feel threatened by your displays of independence, ego, pride, and autonomy. He or she has an extraordinary window into your soul, and can easily see both your strengths and vulnerabilities. What your partner does with this privileged perception is the question. He or she can certainly help you grow, but there can be a temptation to subtly undermine your confidence if your partner would rather keep you dependent.Because the nature of your relationship is deep, and because your connection to each other may seem other-worldly and hard to define, there can be downright explosive moments in your relationship. You may feel thrown off-balance now and again, fearing the loss of your partner, while he or she needs to take extra care to avoid trying to control the direction of your life. You draw out each other's dark sides, and there can frequently be battles of will between the two of you. There is a compulsive quality to your partnership that can be unnerving at times, and exhausting as well. Your connection certainly runs deep, and the very nature of your relationship makes it an especially significant one.This interpretation is most apparent when the cross-aspect is a conjunction. With the sextile or trine, you might find that the expression is easier and less dramatic. With the square or opposition, challenges (and drama!) are more likely.RunAroundScreamingYay! This is my experience right here in my own words. Funny how it sounds so similar to what TxGirl described hmmm...So that means, TxGirl, you actually have a pretty good handle on wgat this adpect is all about That's it right there pretty much.Sun square Pluto---both in composite and in synastry----in my own words:There is no more powerful bond in the world. The power they have for changing you for the better is unquestionable. This is someone, who you can know better in a week than most of their own family members, because you both have such a profound influence on each other that just by looking in each other’s eyes you will see this person at their most vulnerable because you have such an effect on them, and vice versa. Somehow, also, one or both of you seems to know exactly what the other person needs to grow, and because of this one or both of you are changed profoundly for the better.TxGirlWell yay me! I was nervous I'd come back and see that what I said was completely off and THAT must had been different aspects lol. I think we told eachother we loved eachother after 4 or 5 days? Completely strange. But someone had to say it we were goin crazy always saying "i really care about you" i f##kin care about you" I mean we both knew what we meant lol.RunAroundScreamingYeah, omg!!! astrology interps always say that it will make either person want to hae complete cobtrol over the other and that it makes two people fight like cays and dogs and means power struggles.I've found that to be only very slightly true. The reason why there are power struggles is because what we have is so intense that we are both like super insecure about showing ourselves to each other...whoch we feel the other person can already see anyway.EmpressMendezSorry for bumping this up, but I was looking over a synastry chart with a guy who is obsessed with me (he says). I wanted to see why, so I guess I found out why and this is the main aspect..less than 1 degree applying. My pluto squares his sun. I found out that in my synastry with different people it seems to work this way. My pluto squaring his sun makes him obsessed with me, however his Pluto doesn't really touch much of my planets. I noticed in other synastries if someones Pluto squares my moon I'm the obsessed one,etc..Here are me and this guy:My pluto squares his sun less than 1 degreetrines his venus, opposes his mars, squares his jupiter, trines his uranus, squares his nn by 2 degrees and trines his mc.Now his pluto only sextiles my mars less than 1 degree, trines my jupiter and squares my ac.So, I'm satisfied and convinced with my little discovery, lol. My pluto is stronger than his in our charts peachbeigeblueI know my parents have this. And my mom laughed and said "don't tell your father that" when I read her the description on grupovenus before They been together since they were 15 and 14They have DW Sun/Pluto. One is a square, one a trine. My dad's Pluto squares my moms sun. mom's pluto trines his. I have the same DW with the guy I just started talking to (as my girl RAS knows so it's interesting to read this right now) His Pluto squares my sun. My sun trines his Pluto Thanks empress!EmpressMendezY/w Peach peachbeigeblueI just looked and my sun squares his pluto by ONE MINUTE and ONE SECOND. crazyhis pluto scorpio 12.31'21r my sun leo 12.32'22(as for the DW i mentioned above, he has sun trine pluto in his natal. and i have sun square pluto in my natal) curiouswomanand you as pluto, how do you feel about him?peachbeigeblueTotal dreamboat. The venus trine pluto is a 2 degree orb. In composite Venus trine Pluto is a 3 degree orb. EmpressMendezMe as Pluto?I don't feel "obsessed" about him. At least not yet, lol. (if you were asking me curious)peachbeigeblueoh hahaha, i took that wrong as if it was to me. i just like typing apparently. empressmendez whats your big 3? i feel like we have a love stellium or have compatible signs (in a friend way) curiouswomanbut you do like him?EmpressMendezNow I see it Peach . Lol, now I won't tell you until I kill the thread in beginner @Curious: of course I like him! . I might even become obsessed with him, which is why I have pulled awayVenusian MoonI have this aspect with ny boyfriend in synastry.Obsession, jealousy, needing to be around eachother daily.Only way i can describe it.I am the sun and he is the pluto.------------------Gemini sun 12thCancer asc 1stTaurus moon 11thTaurus venus 11thLibra mars 3rdGemini mercury 11thLoVeLyI was just looking up this aspect and found this thread... I met a guy just 2 months ago his Pluto is square my Venus and Sun yes he is obsessed LOL calls me 10 times a day and told me that he loves me a month after we met... I can't stop thinking about him too and I am usually not like this LOL NOT GOOD ------------------Sun in Virgo conjunct Venus ( 11th House )Moon in Libra Rising sign Libra Honesty is Confidence - Hoodie Allen ❤Ami AnneI would like to hear people's experience with this one. I have Sun sextile Pluto which feels nice, as if you can stand up and be strong ------------------Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/Venusian Moon quote:Originally posted by Ami Anne:I would like to hear people's experience with this one. I have Sun sextile Pluto which feels nice, as if you can stand up and be strong I have sun trine pluto in synastry.These are mine and my boyfriends synastry pluto aspects:Moon trine plutoMercury trine plutoPluto trine sunPluto trine saturnChiron trine plutoMars conjunct plutoPluto conjunct uranusPluto conjunct pallasUranus sextile plutoPluto sextile lilithNeptune square plutoSun square plutoLilith square plutoJuno square plutoPluto semisquare AscPluto opposition chironComposite:Venus trine plutoNeptune sextile plutoPluto sextile AscIts intense thats for sure.CanadiangirlOur composite has sun square pluto.Venusian MoonEdit: i had already replied. We are not together anymore but we did remain friends.------------------Gemini sun 12th.(Gemini/cancer cusp)Cancer asc 1stTaurus moon 11thTaurus venus 11thLibra mars 3rdGemini mercury 11th
But we're very intense, maybe a bit obsessed with one another. I have never trusted a man, ever. They always lie (the ones I've been with anyways), and he hasn't lied to me. I fully trust him.
And it's quite amazing how he can read me, no one can read me like him. I don't have to say anything or do the "I'm fine" girl thing. He knows, and he cares and it's really refreshing- for me I've always wanted someone who I didn't have to explain every little detail to.
I think maybe with the little I know of astrology, I have opened up to him alot and he has forced me to understand myself- not really him as much as just the relationship I guess. I understand me more, and I accepting myself and he deals with me really well which makes my learning a lot easier I guess?
It all feels like that cliche thing- OMG I've never felt this before. But, I have really never felt this before. We have alot of deep talks our bedroom life is HOT- we get eachother and it just works.
On the other hand our arguments lol. Not ever big ones but I get quiet and go into a shell so my scorp rising doesn't lash out and he just sits and waits with me. Though I have a tendency to make him feel guilty (not meaning to do that :/). But, I've learned how to control that more, and loosen up.
I don't even know if that has to do with it just a guess.
I thought squares were supposed to be bad aspects but there is nothing really wrong and nothing being hidden. I dunno!
Pluto always operates on a relationship at a very deep level. There is absolutely nothing superficial about its operation. Even if you are not trying to change your partner, you will. And the changes will be felt from the innermost depths to the outermost reaches of your lives.
One problem that can arise with this aspect is a serious conflict of life directions. This is likely to be the source of considerable ego conflict between you.
The only way to deal with the energy of this aspect is to avoid all ego games. Confine yourselves to real sources of conflict and don't indulge in mutual harassment over small matters that you do not really care about but are using to score points at the other's expense.
***In SYNASTY***What does it mean for your relationship when your natal Pluto is square your partner's Sun? A Pluto square Sun aspect can bring challenging insights. You and your romantic partner are likely to have a profound effect upon one another and you will experience romantic life on a whole new spiritual level. If your partner's Pluto is square your Sun, you may find yourself giving up everything you thought you had in order to begin your relationship. This will very likely be the most intense partnership you have known.
No matter what, this relationship has a powerful impact on both of your lives. You find your partner utterly fascinating, intriguing, and even mesmerizing. You are drawn to the Pluto person in a way that can be hard to verbalize. After meeting him or her, you feel like a fish out of water if that person is not around! The fascination is mutual, in fact, although your partner tends to have the "upper hand", so to speak, when it comes to the ultimate fate of the relationship. Why? Because you feel intensely expressive and unique—special, if you will—as a direct result of the Pluto person's attention, and he or she may feel the need to control that expression as the relationship passes the initial stages (which is likely to have been characterized by intense mutual attraction). Your partner can sometimes feel threatened by your displays of independence, ego, pride, and autonomy. He or she has an extraordinary window into your soul, and can easily see both your strengths and vulnerabilities. What your partner does with this privileged perception is the question. He or she can certainly help you grow, but there can be a temptation to subtly undermine your confidence if your partner would rather keep you dependent.
Because the nature of your relationship is deep, and because your connection to each other may seem other-worldly and hard to define, there can be downright explosive moments in your relationship. You may feel thrown off-balance now and again, fearing the loss of your partner, while he or she needs to take extra care to avoid trying to control the direction of your life. You draw out each other's dark sides, and there can frequently be battles of will between the two of you. There is a compulsive quality to your partnership that can be unnerving at times, and exhausting as well. Your connection certainly runs deep, and the very nature of your relationship makes it an especially significant one.
This interpretation is most apparent when the cross-aspect is a conjunction. With the sextile or trine, you might find that the expression is easier and less dramatic. With the square or opposition, challenges (and drama!) are more likely.
Sun square Pluto---both in composite and in synastry----in my own words:
There is no more powerful bond in the world. The power they have for changing you for the better is unquestionable. This is someone, who you can know better in a week than most of their own family members, because you both have such a profound influence on each other that just by looking in each other’s eyes you will see this person at their most vulnerable because you have such an effect on them, and vice versa. Somehow, also, one or both of you seems to know exactly what the other person needs to grow, and because of this one or both of you are changed profoundly for the better.
I've found that to be only very slightly true. The reason why there are power struggles is because what we have is so intense that we are both like super insecure about showing ourselves to each other...whoch we feel the other person can already see anyway.
I found out that in my synastry with different people it seems to work this way. My pluto squaring his sun makes him obsessed with me, however his Pluto doesn't really touch much of my planets. I noticed in other synastries if someones Pluto squares my moon I'm the obsessed one,etc..
Here are me and this guy:
My pluto squares his sun less than 1 degreetrines his venus, opposes his mars, squares his jupiter, trines his uranus, squares his nn by 2 degrees and trines his mc.
Now his pluto only sextiles my mars less than 1 degree, trines my jupiter and squares my ac.
So, I'm satisfied and convinced with my little discovery, lol. My pluto is stronger than his in our charts
They been together since they were 15 and 14They have DW Sun/Pluto. One is a square, one a trine. My dad's Pluto squares my moms sun. mom's pluto trines his.
I have the same DW with the guy I just started talking to (as my girl RAS knows so it's interesting to read this right now) His Pluto squares my sun. My sun trines his Pluto
Thanks empress!
his pluto scorpio 12.31'21r my sun leo 12.32'22
(as for the DW i mentioned above, he has sun trine pluto in his natal. and i have sun square pluto in my natal)
I don't feel "obsessed" about him. At least not yet, lol. (if you were asking me curious)
empressmendez whats your big 3? i feel like we have a love stellium or have compatible signs (in a friend way)
@Curious: of course I like him! . I might even become obsessed with him, which is why I have pulled away
Obsession, jealousy, needing to be around eachother daily.
Only way i can describe it.
I am the sun and he is the pluto.
------------------Gemini sun 12thCancer asc 1stTaurus moon 11thTaurus venus 11thLibra mars 3rdGemini mercury 11th
NOT GOOD
------------------Sun in Virgo conjunct Venus ( 11th House )Moon in Libra Rising sign Libra
Honesty is Confidence - Hoodie Allen
❤
------------------Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal
http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
quote:Originally posted by Ami Anne:I would like to hear people's experience with this one. I have Sun sextile Pluto which feels nice, as if you can stand up and be strong
I have sun trine pluto in synastry.
These are mine and my boyfriends synastry pluto aspects:
Moon trine plutoMercury trine plutoPluto trine sunPluto trine saturnChiron trine plutoMars conjunct plutoPluto conjunct uranusPluto conjunct pallasUranus sextile plutoPluto sextile lilithNeptune square plutoSun square plutoLilith square plutoJuno square plutoPluto semisquare AscPluto opposition chiron
Composite:
Venus trine plutoNeptune sextile plutoPluto sextile Asc
Its intense thats for sure.
------------------Gemini sun 12th.(Gemini/cancer cusp)Cancer asc 1stTaurus moon 11thTaurus venus 11thLibra mars 3rdGemini mercury 11th
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