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T O P I C R E V I E WcomdocI have questions about personal relocation for favorable romantic relationships. Which forum should I post these questions in?lalalindaHello comdoc, I don't see why you can't post your questions in this forum. ------------------"There ain't no revolution, only evolution, but every time I'm in Georgia I 'eat a peach' for peace." Duane AllmancomdocObjective: best sexualove mate, home, family. For the rest of my lifetime. My Scorpio natal 4H ruler Pluto in 12H. "Isolation". Psyche, Chiron/Amor in 4H. Co-ruler Mars rising, 4 degrees from rising degree. Leo stellium square MC/NN--IC/SN: Pluto, Saturn, Mars. Feeling need to relocate to resolve this issue. Where in the world would be best place? My focus on 4,5,7,8 House dynamics. Somewhere with favorable IC sign and ruler placement. And overall balance of all factors--including Prosperity, Health indicators. Venusincap89just wanted to note thatyour pluto, saturn and mars is in fact interpreted as 1st housecomdocVenusincap89, you mean because entire stellium counts as one? Pluto is more than 10 degrees into 12th House; isn't that more orb than usually allowed for such a slow moving planet? astrofix.net Interp for 4H ruler in 1H does not fit my experience: Familial relationships, cultural inheritances, and family traditions serve our outlook on life and self-image. The traditions we were brought up with influence our behavior and mannerisms. Family ties, culture and tradition are at the very forefront of our personality. Our cultural ties inform our viewpoint. The traditions we grew up with dictate our appearance and how we present ourselves. Our family tells us how we should look. Our ties to culture, tradition and family are one of the first things that people notice about us. Our capacity for quiet inner work is focused on the creation of a persona. We bring our private inner life to the forefront of our personality. We have a traditional viewpoint. Everything that went into building the foundation of our personality is apparent to other people. Having a family creates a self-image. “Family man.” “Mother.” The way we feel about domesticity has an impact on our behavior. We find emotional security through the creation of a persona. Our family and culture must orient itself to the way that we present ourselves, the way that we look and the persona we cultivate. [URL=http://astrology-numerology.com/astrology_houses.html#4th_house] re Scorpio IC:The Scorpio influence in this house produces extremely strong feelings about the home and family life. This is a secretive sign, and certain matters regarding family matters are kept locked away and very private. There is a strong loyalty and protective tendency shown toward family members. You don't waste time coming to their defense when this becomes necessary. In return, you expect the complete respect and loyalty of your family members. In the early home life, your were strongly influenced by the parent of the opposite sex. This sign wants a sense of royalty, splendor, and space in the home environment. Even if you are not born to this, it's very likely that you will be living in the grand style later in life.Guess my castle and Queen are still on the way! I am very loyal and protective toward family members. But their respect and consideration has been missing. quote:Originally posted by Venusincap89:just wanted to note thatyour pluto, saturn and mars is in fact interpreted as 1st houseastra7Go to Astro.com and click on astromap. It tells you which planet crosses which city clearly. You want to go to near Venus but be ware there aren't pluto near etc.comdocThanks for reply, astra7. Yes, I've been using AstroClick Travel maps for many years now. I have a nice Venus line on Descendant in south Italy. But now am looking at how house rulers change by relocation. Especially noticed that my birth and current residence 4H ruler is Pluto posited in 12H. One word in astrofix.net interpretation jumped out at me: "isolation". This fits my experience here for past 6 years. So am looking for a better set of house rulers and planet placements. For example, in SE Italy, my IC is in late Pisces, ruled by 10H Neptune oppose Aries Mercury in 4H.I would really like to know what others have experienced romantically with IC sign rulers and planets placed in 4th. quote:Originally posted by astra7:Go to Astro.com and click on astromap. It tells you which planet crosses which city clearly. You want to go to near Venus but be ware there aren't pluto near etc.I've tried to keep Pluto cadent--but that doesn't help home, family, intimacy here where Scorpio is on IC.Venusincap89 quote:Originally posted by comdoc:Venusincap89, you mean because entire stellium counts as one? Pluto is more than 10 degrees into 12th House; isn't that more orb than usually allowed for such a slow moving planet? astrofix.net Interp for 4H ruler in 1H does not fit my experience:[URL=http://astrology-numerology.com/astrology_houses.html#4th_house] re Scorpio IC: I assume that's because Saturn is sitting there, blocking or slowing down the pluto effectsNevertheless, any signs that is in leo, which is your ASC, is considered as a first house placement, in a sense that ASC represents the constellation that was facing you at the time of your birth. In short, ASC represents, the beginning of your life's journey, the first housecomdocYes, I see. Saturn is interconnected with all my other planets, and sits at the heart of the stellium; my entire life has been Saturnine in expression. Multiple major physical injuries (3 near death experiences), structural challenges. One of my goals is to restore natural innate dental orthopedic and bone balance.If you could move my Leo stellium into any house position by relocation, which would that be? My current focus is on intimate partnership/home/family. But not at the expense of overall powerful balance. I want it all! quote:Originally posted by Venusincap89: I assume that's because Saturn is sitting there, blocking or slowing down the pluto effectsNevertheless, any signs that is in leo, which is your ASC, is considered as a first house placement, in a sense that ASC represents the constellation that was facing you at the time of your birth. In short, ASC represents, the beginning of your life's journey, the first houseVenusincap895th house of course and intimate relationship is really easy!! all about balance reallyI think people make it look more difficult than it actually iscomdocOMG, Indonesia! I was in romantic heaven for the year I lived there. Received multiple marriage proposals. The rub was that I could not obtain a longterm residential visa. So I returned to US, but my beautiful fiance and her extended family decided against immigrating here.Similar conditions on East Coast of China. Have never lived there, and find little romantic resonance with the local girls. quote:Originally posted by Venusincap89:5th house of course and intimate relationship is really easy!! all about balance reallyI think people make it look more difficult than it actually isIntimate relationship has always been easy for me--but longevity has been a challenge. Longest union was 7 years.Venusincap89 quote:Originally posted by comdoc:OMG, Indonesia! I was in romantic heaven for the year I lived there. Received multiple marriage proposals. The rub was that I could not obtain a longterm residential visa. So I returned to US, but my beautiful fiance and her extended family decided against immigrating here.Similar conditions on East Coast of China. Have never lived there, and find little romantic resonance with the local girls. Intimate relationship has always been easy for me--but longevity has been a challenge. Longest union was 7 years.actually, now that I think of it, I would choose 10th house!! soo central Africa? If you understand that longevity is the biggest challenge, I think you are well above almost all other men in the battlefield of love xDmost men think that once a girl agrees to be with them, they can relax and do anything lolVenusincap89Holy crap, I now realize, if i was born in South Africa, I would've had Aries ASC and almost all the right planets in right housesastra7 quote:Originally posted by comdoc:Thanks for reply, astra7. Yes, I've been using AstroClick Travel maps for many years now. I have a nice Venus line on Descendant in south Italy. But now am looking at how house rulers change by relocation. Especially noticed that my birth and current residence 4H ruler is Pluto posited in 12H. One word in astrofix.net interpretation jumped out at me: "isolation". This fits my experience here for past 6 years. So am looking for a better set of house rulers and planet placements. For example, in SE Italy, my IC is in late Pisces, ruled by 10H Neptune oppose Aries Mercury in 4H.I would really like to know what others have experienced romantically with IC sign rulers and planets placed in 4th. I've tried to keep Pluto cadent--but that doesn't help home, family, intimacy here where Scorpio is on IC.You don't want to live on Pluto line. LOL :OAlso, astro.com doesn't do it but if you have an astrology software, there is one that does progressed lines as well. Something else to think about.Aunt AnomaliaAstra, what's your experience with a Pluto line?------------------My sister in arms presents...astra7 quote:Originally posted by Aunt Anomalia:Astra, what's your experience with a Pluto line?You place yourself in dangerous situations.e.g. death, murder, stalking and all that pluto things.. comdocMy personal Pluto lines in Alaska, Siberia, Azores + Greenland, East Australia + New Guinea. No plans to visit any of those places. Will check progressed planet lines. Just looked at my 2015 Solar Return for 14 April 2015--and LEO Jupiter is exactly conjunct the MC right here in Tucson AZ! quote:Originally posted by astra7: [QUOTE]Originally posted by Aunt Anomalia:[b]Astra, what's your experience with a Pluto line?You place yourself in dangerous situations.e.g. death, murder, stalking and all that pluto things.. [/B][/QUOTE]Aunt Anomalia quote:Originally posted by astra7:You place yourself in dangerous situations.e.g. death, murder, stalking and all that pluto things.. No personal experience then? I know it's supposedly not too desireable but I'm very much drawn to a place which gives me Pluto-IC and if after scanning the area I like it there for real, it won't stop me. comdoc, I'd actually have angles almost identical to yours ------------------My sister in arms presents...CupOfDavidI'm sorry to intrude, Comdoc, but I didn't know about relocation astrology or charts until you made this thread!How accurate are the Travel Map interpretations on Astro.com? I'd love for someone to take a second look at my chart(s) as I may move to another country next year.comdocHi Aunt Anomalia,Lots of personal experience with Pluto (was born with it above the Eastern Horizon and strongly aspected, part of a stellium in Leo.) Pluto IC represents inner transformation, regeneration, renewal. If you're comfortable with that, go for it.Our fixed angles can bring solid benefits, and stability. Active influences can come from other placements. I have Aries Sun and Mercury, Libra Neptune. quote:Originally posted by Aunt Anomalia: No personal experience then? I know it's supposedly not too desireable but I'm very much drawn to a place which gives me Pluto-IC and if after scanning the area I like it there for real, it won't stop me. comdoc, I'd actually have angles almost identical to yours comdocHi CupofDavid, no problem. The travel maps on astro.com are quite accurate. I've cross checked them with Kepler (which also includes astro maps). I'm fascinated with and love astrolocality information. quote:Originally posted by CupOfDavid:I'm sorry to intrude, Comdoc, but I didn't know about relocation astrology or charts until you made this thread!How accurate are the Travel Map interpretations on Astro.com? I'd love for someone to take a second look at my chart(s) as I may move to another country next year.
------------------"There ain't no revolution, only evolution, but every time I'm in Georgia I 'eat a peach' for peace." Duane Allman
Feeling need to relocate to resolve this issue. Where in the world would be best place? My focus on 4,5,7,8 House dynamics. Somewhere with favorable IC sign and ruler placement. And overall balance of all factors--including Prosperity, Health indicators.
Familial relationships, cultural inheritances, and family traditions serve our outlook on life and self-image. The traditions we were brought up with influence our behavior and mannerisms. Family ties, culture and tradition are at the very forefront of our personality. Our cultural ties inform our viewpoint. The traditions we grew up with dictate our appearance and how we present ourselves. Our family tells us how we should look. Our ties to culture, tradition and family are one of the first things that people notice about us. Our capacity for quiet inner work is focused on the creation of a persona. We bring our private inner life to the forefront of our personality. We have a traditional viewpoint. Everything that went into building the foundation of our personality is apparent to other people. Having a family creates a self-image. “Family man.” “Mother.” The way we feel about domesticity has an impact on our behavior. We find emotional security through the creation of a persona. Our family and culture must orient itself to the way that we present ourselves, the way that we look and the persona we cultivate. [URL=http://astrology-numerology.com/astrology_houses.html#4th_house] re Scorpio IC:
The Scorpio influence in this house produces extremely strong feelings about the home and family life. This is a secretive sign, and certain matters regarding family matters are kept locked away and very private. There is a strong loyalty and protective tendency shown toward family members. You don't waste time coming to their defense when this becomes necessary. In return, you expect the complete respect and loyalty of your family members. In the early home life, your were strongly influenced by the parent of the opposite sex. This sign wants a sense of royalty, splendor, and space in the home environment. Even if you are not born to this, it's very likely that you will be living in the grand style later in life.
Guess my castle and Queen are still on the way! I am very loyal and protective toward family members. But their respect and consideration has been missing.
quote:Originally posted by Venusincap89:just wanted to note thatyour pluto, saturn and mars is in fact interpreted as 1st house
Especially noticed that my birth and current residence 4H ruler is Pluto posited in 12H. One word in astrofix.net interpretation jumped out at me: "isolation". This fits my experience here for past 6 years. So am looking for a better set of house rulers and planet placements. For example, in SE Italy, my IC is in late Pisces, ruled by 10H Neptune oppose Aries Mercury in 4H.
I would really like to know what others have experienced romantically with IC sign rulers and planets placed in 4th.
quote:Originally posted by astra7:Go to Astro.com and click on astromap. It tells you which planet crosses which city clearly. You want to go to near Venus but be ware there aren't pluto near etc.
I've tried to keep Pluto cadent--but that doesn't help home, family, intimacy here where Scorpio is on IC.
quote:Originally posted by comdoc:Venusincap89, you mean because entire stellium counts as one? Pluto is more than 10 degrees into 12th House; isn't that more orb than usually allowed for such a slow moving planet? astrofix.net Interp for 4H ruler in 1H does not fit my experience:[URL=http://astrology-numerology.com/astrology_houses.html#4th_house] re Scorpio IC:
[URL=http://astrology-numerology.com/astrology_houses.html#4th_house] re Scorpio IC:
I assume that's because Saturn is sitting there, blocking or slowing down the pluto effectsNevertheless, any signs that is in leo, which is your ASC, is considered as a first house placement, in a sense that ASC represents the constellation that was facing you at the time of your birth. In short, ASC represents, the beginning of your life's journey, the first house
One of my goals is to restore natural innate dental orthopedic and bone balance.
If you could move my Leo stellium into any house position by relocation, which would that be? My current focus is on intimate partnership/home/family. But not at the expense of overall powerful balance. I want it all!
quote:Originally posted by Venusincap89: I assume that's because Saturn is sitting there, blocking or slowing down the pluto effectsNevertheless, any signs that is in leo, which is your ASC, is considered as a first house placement, in a sense that ASC represents the constellation that was facing you at the time of your birth. In short, ASC represents, the beginning of your life's journey, the first house
and intimate relationship is really easy!! all about balance really
I think people make it look more difficult than it actually is
Similar conditions on East Coast of China. Have never lived there, and find little romantic resonance with the local girls.
quote:Originally posted by Venusincap89:5th house of course and intimate relationship is really easy!! all about balance reallyI think people make it look more difficult than it actually is
Intimate relationship has always been easy for me--but longevity has been a challenge. Longest union was 7 years.
quote:Originally posted by comdoc:OMG, Indonesia! I was in romantic heaven for the year I lived there. Received multiple marriage proposals. The rub was that I could not obtain a longterm residential visa. So I returned to US, but my beautiful fiance and her extended family decided against immigrating here.Similar conditions on East Coast of China. Have never lived there, and find little romantic resonance with the local girls. Intimate relationship has always been easy for me--but longevity has been a challenge. Longest union was 7 years.
actually, now that I think of it, I would choose 10th house!! soo central Africa?
If you understand that longevity is the biggest challenge, I think you are well above almost all other men in the battlefield of love xDmost men think that once a girl agrees to be with them, they can relax and do anything lol
quote:Originally posted by comdoc:Thanks for reply, astra7. Yes, I've been using AstroClick Travel maps for many years now. I have a nice Venus line on Descendant in south Italy. But now am looking at how house rulers change by relocation. Especially noticed that my birth and current residence 4H ruler is Pluto posited in 12H. One word in astrofix.net interpretation jumped out at me: "isolation". This fits my experience here for past 6 years. So am looking for a better set of house rulers and planet placements. For example, in SE Italy, my IC is in late Pisces, ruled by 10H Neptune oppose Aries Mercury in 4H.I would really like to know what others have experienced romantically with IC sign rulers and planets placed in 4th. I've tried to keep Pluto cadent--but that doesn't help home, family, intimacy here where Scorpio is on IC.
------------------My sister in arms presents...
quote:Originally posted by Aunt Anomalia:Astra, what's your experience with a Pluto line?
Will check progressed planet lines. Just looked at my 2015 Solar Return for 14 April 2015--and LEO Jupiter is exactly conjunct the MC right here in Tucson AZ!
quote:Originally posted by astra7: [QUOTE]Originally posted by Aunt Anomalia:[b]Astra, what's your experience with a Pluto line?
quote:Originally posted by astra7:You place yourself in dangerous situations.e.g. death, murder, stalking and all that pluto things..
No personal experience then? I know it's supposedly not too desireable but I'm very much drawn to a place which gives me Pluto-IC and if after scanning the area I like it there for real, it won't stop me.
comdoc, I'd actually have angles almost identical to yours
How accurate are the Travel Map interpretations on Astro.com? I'd love for someone to take a second look at my chart(s) as I may move to another country next year.
Lots of personal experience with Pluto (was born with it above the Eastern Horizon and strongly aspected, part of a stellium in Leo.) Pluto IC represents inner transformation, regeneration, renewal. If you're comfortable with that, go for it.
Our fixed angles can bring solid benefits, and stability. Active influences can come from other placements. I have Aries Sun and Mercury, Libra Neptune.
quote:Originally posted by Aunt Anomalia: No personal experience then? I know it's supposedly not too desireable but I'm very much drawn to a place which gives me Pluto-IC and if after scanning the area I like it there for real, it won't stop me. comdoc, I'd actually have angles almost identical to yours
quote:Originally posted by CupOfDavid:I'm sorry to intrude, Comdoc, but I didn't know about relocation astrology or charts until you made this thread!How accurate are the Travel Map interpretations on Astro.com? I'd love for someone to take a second look at my chart(s) as I may move to another country next year.
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