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T O P I C R E V I E Wtwinflame1914Any opinions on what transit pluto square venus (natal venus in libra, 4th house conjunct pluto) may bring? Themes of divorce or moving keep coming up. ThanksRandallBump!Kannon McAfeeTransformation of love life and relationships, possibly because of needed changes in personal values. This does not equate to divorce necessarily, but with Pluto it seems often difficult for people to transform without a personal revolution (power struggle).------------------Astrology & natural medicine blog:3D full sky astrology with declinationsComplete Rising Sign descriptionsAries23DegreesThe square aspect of Pluto to Venus suggests some discomfort on the part of relationships /values/money/public relations etc.In relationships specifically,there is likely to be a feeling of "things cannot go on like this" about it and there is often a need for some radical change.The square suggests that there will be disturbances that can evoke very strong reactions between you and the SO(Pluto).Either both or one of you have long held resentment towards the other or the partner's "faults" become increasingly apparent and one of you finds yourself less tolerant of the other etc.Most relationships survive the Pluto transit.But those usually have some fundamental change from the root upwards.Pluto is about renewal and many people tend to abandon old relationships and just start afresh.EmpressMendezI'm going through this transit right now and I agree with Aries23 for the most part.------------------“So whatever you wish that others would do to you, do also to them, for this is the Law and the Prophets."Tarot Readings by MeFacebook - ReadingsbyAzulVirgo28Be careful with the people you meet during this transit.They'll very likely have Venus hard aspect to Pluto natally.I have Venus square Pluto natally and every person I have ever known is going through this transit!.------------------"If a man does not work passionately - even furiously - at being the best in the world at what he does, he fails his talent, his destiny, and his God."peonyHello. I think how you experience this transit depends on how much you've learned from having the conjunction in your natal chart. Venus in Libra on its own thinks of love in light, romantic, and idealistic terms, like Cinderella. Pluto most likely has introduced you to the dark, underworld aspects of romantic love, which includes obsession, sexual triangles, betrayal, and jealousy, along with self-worth issues. If you've gone through the fire a number of times already, come through it wiser and have achieved a genuine ability to love, then I don't think the square will produce the kind of drama and turmoil Pluto is known for. If you're somewhere on this learning curve, then you may experience a certain amount of upheaval. Since it's affecting your 4H, it could affect your relationship with one or both parents or your family.Whatever Pluto brings in terms of specific experience, it's designed to remove whatever obstacles are in the way of real love and to bring about healing and enlightenment. thegrinning_catWhat orb would you count for a Pluto Square to Natal Venus?It's six degrees and coming closer now…when do you start to feel it?And what would be the outcome, if Venus is in the 9th House and conjunct natal Pluto?LeoniscesHad it, and it was a very difficult time, as soon as this aspect ended, I felt immediate relief. But it teaches your Venus a lesson, and in my case it was in the 7th so I felt it maybe even more.You will transform.VioletsI had an interesting combination of Pluto transits when Pluto squared my natal Venus. Simultaneously, t Pluto was making a trine to my moon, and conjunct my Vertex.I ended an on/off 10-year relationship with someone who was very karmic for me, but in a really negative way, and never really worth my time to begin with.I met my soon-to-be husband, and we moved to a very random, far-away place together. (I also have Venus in H9.)My grandmother passed away. I ran away from the love I felt for my (then boyfriend, now husband), because I was accustomed to a much shallower, less loving concept of what relationships should be. We worked it out.I began receiving energy healing for the first time during that period. It helped me tremendously, and helped me to cope with my grandmother's passing.I hope that whatever happens for you, it is transforming and amazing. Violets quote:Originally posted by twinflame1914:Any opinions on what transit pluto square venus (natal venus in libra, 4th house conjunct pluto) may bring? Themes of divorce or moving keep coming up. ThanksDo you have Pluto in Libra as well?astrosaz A lot of people I know are going through this transit at the moment. My friend ( who's been going through this transit since mid march last year ) and her boyfriend moved in together about 6 months ago, could this play into the ' transformation ' part? Kannon McAfeeIt is a transformation of your love live and personal relationships. With the square, it is not easy. Letting go is a theme, but it is not necessary letting go of the relationship itself, but of previous expectations and relational order. ------------------Soul Stars Astrology - by the declinations guyExpert birth chart rectificationComplete rising sign descriptionsKannon McAfee quote:Originally posted by thegrinning_cat:What orb would you count for a Pluto Square to Natal Venus?It's six degrees and coming closer now…when do you start to feel it?Then its not quite in range yet. 5° orb for transits. No more for those far outer planets like Pluto. quote:And what would be the outcome, if Venus is in the 9th House and conjunct natal Pluto?You determine the outcome, not placements, houses or any astrological factor. Those are just the energies for you to learn from and put to use. What you do with it is up to you.------------------Soul Stars Astrology - by the declinations guyExpert birth chart rectificationComplete rising sign descriptionsastrosaz That's extremely interesting Kannon, so many people I know are going through this at the moment. When you say 'Of previous expectations and relational order' - Can you give me some examples? RandallBump!arcturus90A friend of mine divorced his wife when Pluto was transiting square his Venus. But of course it's different for each one. Kannon McAfee quote:Originally posted by astrosaz: That's extremely interesting Kannon, so many people I know are going through this at the moment. When you say 'Of previous expectations and relational order' - Can you give me some examples? All the outer 3 planets Uranus, Neptune, Pluto are game-changers. They relate to what is trans-personal and their major transits are opportunities for major growth changes in the area of life of the natal planet being transited. For natal Venus that means one's relationship and love life. But with Pluto there is also a deeper values factor that is coming up from below the conscious level. So new feelings are introduced and a new pattern.When Uranus transits natal Venus by opposition, square, conjunction, you can expect your tastes to change and to be attracted to someone different from your past pattern. With Pluto in transit to natal Venus you can potentially see everything change. Pluto is drastic and in effects to Venus can indicate a real values change, not merely a change of tastes. RandallThanks, Kannon.RandallBump!astrosaz I commented on this thread 2 years ago and now I've been going through this transit since March 2019. Usually I wouldn't write things like this but honestly I'm desperate... I feel like I'm going through not just mental but physical and spiritual torture, my actual chest my 'soul' is tense and I vomit from worry everyday... I know this is my own fault as I do believe my own thoughts create my reality yet can't shake it, I try so hard and usually I'm an optimist (moon trine jupiter, venus conjunct jupiter). The prospect of me having to go through this for another 2 years makes me feel like I can't cope... Knowing 'It will pass' doesn't make me feel any better, having to wait another 2 years to feel normal, not even happy just average that's all I want is to feel normal not tense or desperate... Anyone who's been through this transit know where to start? Or give me hope?
Thanks
------------------Astrology & natural medicine blog:3D full sky astrology with declinationsComplete Rising Sign descriptions
In relationships specifically,there is likely to be a feeling of "things cannot go on like this" about it and there is often a need for some radical change.
The square suggests that there will be disturbances that can evoke very strong reactions between you and the SO(Pluto).
Either both or one of you have long held resentment towards the other or the partner's "faults" become increasingly apparent and one of you finds yourself less tolerant of the other etc.
Most relationships survive the Pluto transit.But those usually have some fundamental change from the root upwards.
Pluto is about renewal and many people tend to abandon old relationships and just start afresh.
------------------“So whatever you wish that others would do to you, do also to them, for this is the Law and the Prophets."
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They'll very likely have Venus hard aspect to Pluto natally.
I have Venus square Pluto natally and every person I have ever known is going through this transit!.
------------------"If a man does not work passionately - even furiously - at being the best in the world at what he does, he fails his talent, his destiny, and his God."
Venus in Libra on its own thinks of love in light, romantic, and idealistic terms, like Cinderella. Pluto most likely has introduced you to the dark, underworld aspects of romantic love, which includes obsession, sexual triangles, betrayal, and jealousy, along with self-worth issues. If you've gone through the fire a number of times already, come through it wiser and have achieved a genuine ability to love, then I don't think the square will produce the kind of drama and turmoil Pluto is known for. If you're somewhere on this learning curve, then you may experience a certain amount of upheaval. Since it's affecting your 4H, it could affect your relationship with one or both parents or your family.
Whatever Pluto brings in terms of specific experience, it's designed to remove whatever obstacles are in the way of real love and to bring about healing and enlightenment.
It's six degrees and coming closer now…when do you start to feel it?
And what would be the outcome, if Venus is in the 9th House and conjunct natal Pluto?
I ended an on/off 10-year relationship with someone who was very karmic for me, but in a really negative way, and never really worth my time to begin with.
I met my soon-to-be husband, and we moved to a very random, far-away place together. (I also have Venus in H9.)
My grandmother passed away.
I ran away from the love I felt for my (then boyfriend, now husband), because I was accustomed to a much shallower, less loving concept of what relationships should be. We worked it out.
I began receiving energy healing for the first time during that period. It helped me tremendously, and helped me to cope with my grandmother's passing.
I hope that whatever happens for you, it is transforming and amazing.
quote:Originally posted by twinflame1914:Any opinions on what transit pluto square venus (natal venus in libra, 4th house conjunct pluto) may bring? Themes of divorce or moving keep coming up. Thanks
Do you have Pluto in Libra as well?
------------------Soul Stars Astrology - by the declinations guyExpert birth chart rectificationComplete rising sign descriptions
quote:Originally posted by thegrinning_cat:What orb would you count for a Pluto Square to Natal Venus?It's six degrees and coming closer now…when do you start to feel it?
Then its not quite in range yet. 5° orb for transits. No more for those far outer planets like Pluto.
quote:And what would be the outcome, if Venus is in the 9th House and conjunct natal Pluto?
You determine the outcome, not placements, houses or any astrological factor. Those are just the energies for you to learn from and put to use. What you do with it is up to you.
When you say 'Of previous expectations and relational order' - Can you give me some examples?
quote:Originally posted by astrosaz: That's extremely interesting Kannon, so many people I know are going through this at the moment. When you say 'Of previous expectations and relational order' - Can you give me some examples?
All the outer 3 planets Uranus, Neptune, Pluto are game-changers. They relate to what is trans-personal and their major transits are opportunities for major growth changes in the area of life of the natal planet being transited. For natal Venus that means one's relationship and love life. But with Pluto there is also a deeper values factor that is coming up from below the conscious level. So new feelings are introduced and a new pattern.
When Uranus transits natal Venus by opposition, square, conjunction, you can expect your tastes to change and to be attracted to someone different from your past pattern.
With Pluto in transit to natal Venus you can potentially see everything change. Pluto is drastic and in effects to Venus can indicate a real values change, not merely a change of tastes.
The prospect of me having to go through this for another 2 years makes me feel like I can't cope... Knowing 'It will pass' doesn't make me feel any better, having to wait another 2 years to feel normal, not even happy just average that's all I want is to feel normal not tense or desperate...
Anyone who's been through this transit know where to start? Or give me hope?
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