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T O P I C R E V I E WDualGemV2I'm just curious what you guys think. I'm dealing with a nasty Scorpio aunt thats using my Grandmas ailing health to appear important.EDIT-------My Sag uncle who is second in charge of my Grandma's care is well aware. But the rest of the family doesn't seem to.My Planets=========================================☉‘ ♊, ☽ ♈, ASC ♑, ☿ ♊, ˇ÷ ♉, ˇö ♋ , ♃ ♒, ♄ ♏, ♅ ♐, ♆ ♑RadiumgeminiteaselNeither. MelinnNeither? Scorpio of course. In my definition manipulation is about either the want to gain control over someones for ex mind or love etc and the ”strategies” one uses to gain it. And if that person has gemini mars, they will be very creative in their ”strategies” I tell you that!Coming from me, heavily scorpionic/plutonic with gemini stellium/mars . I don’t ”manipulate” per say but that is an other topic.Though I have to say, I think cancer suns are the real manupulation masters. Scorpio has nothing on them!aquagembabyThey can both be manipulative for different reasons but I don't think one is more manipulative than the otherteasel quote:Originally posted by Melinn:Neither? Scorpio of course. In my definition manipulation is about either the want to gain control over someones for ex mind or love etc and the ”strategies” one uses to gain it. And if that person has gemini mars, they will be very creative in their ”strategies” I tell you that!Coming from me, heavily scorpionic/plutonic with gemini stellium/mars . I don’t ”manipulate” per say but that is an other topic.Though I have to say, I think cancer suns are the real manupulation masters. Scorpio has nothing on them!Yes, neither. But I do know a manipulative Gemini Mars: my BIL. he's the biggest gas lighter I've known as an adult. He's a Taurus sun, for those who think all earth signs are wonderful. teaselAll signs can be manipulative. Yes, I'm that person, I'm related to a Cappy who manages to do that. Only another relative overheard her winding me up, so she doesn't have everyone fooled. She will do her thing, and then under react in front of other people, so everyone thinks she's a peach. MoonMysticTeasel wrote: quote:"All signs can be manipulative. Yes, I'm that person" ^ yes. Everyone does have this ability andit's used by us all. Maybe some arejust much better with it!teasel quote:Originally posted by MoonMystic:Teasel wrote: ^ yes. Everyone does have this ability andit's used by us all. Maybe some arejust much better with it!In my experience, it isn't dependent on signs. Having dealt with that Taurus for fifteen years, I'm tired of this kind of thing getting dumped on Scorpio, and mutable signs. He's a Taurus, and it offers no stabilizing influence. He will admit the truth, and then turn around and say it was just to pacify me, that he wasn't really admitting to anything, it was to calm the Angry Aries who has been lied about and punished for his actions, for much too long now. All because I turned him down, when he hit on me, and set boundaries (I don't want to be around him). teasel quote:Originally posted by DualGemV2:I'm just curious what you guys think. I'm dealing with a nasty Scorpio aunt thats using my Grandmas ailing health to appear important.EDIT-------My Sag uncle who is second in charge of my Grandma's care is well aware. But the rest of the family doesn't seem to.My Planets=========================================☉‘ ♊, ☽ ♈, ASC ♑, ☿ ♊, ˇ÷ ♉, ˇö ♋ , ♃ ♒, ♄ ♏, ♅ ♐, ♆ ♑Several Sagittarians here, once admitted to being good liars. I can't remember when. I'm well aware of what people have done, too, but it never matters. RandallBump!charlieSigns that have tried HARD to manipulate me are (the order mentioned have nothing to do with severity)LIBRATAURUSCANCERActually, now that I am thinking about it....I'm gonna put Taurus on top of that list. Sorry Taurus, you may now proceed to tell me, again, that I have done it all to myself and "deserve" your behavior. Nasty attitude and 2-faced as all he!!! Worse than Gemini :-/
EDIT-------My Sag uncle who is second in charge of my Grandma's care is well aware. But the rest of the family doesn't seem to.
My Planets=========================================☉‘ ♊, ☽ ♈, ASC ♑, ☿ ♊, ˇ÷ ♉, ˇö ♋ , ♃ ♒, ♄ ♏, ♅ ♐, ♆ ♑
And if that person has gemini mars, they will be very creative in their ”strategies” I tell you that!
Coming from me, heavily scorpionic/plutonic with gemini stellium/mars . I don’t ”manipulate” per say but that is an other topic.
Though I have to say, I think cancer suns are the real manupulation masters. Scorpio has nothing on them!
quote:Originally posted by Melinn:Neither? Scorpio of course. In my definition manipulation is about either the want to gain control over someones for ex mind or love etc and the ”strategies” one uses to gain it. And if that person has gemini mars, they will be very creative in their ”strategies” I tell you that!Coming from me, heavily scorpionic/plutonic with gemini stellium/mars . I don’t ”manipulate” per say but that is an other topic.Though I have to say, I think cancer suns are the real manupulation masters. Scorpio has nothing on them!
Yes, neither.
But I do know a manipulative Gemini Mars: my BIL. he's the biggest gas lighter I've known as an adult. He's a Taurus sun, for those who think all earth signs are wonderful.
I'm related to a Cappy who manages to do that. Only another relative overheard her winding me up, so she doesn't have everyone fooled. She will do her thing, and then under react in front of other people, so everyone thinks she's a peach.
quote:"All signs can be manipulative. Yes, I'm that person"
^ yes. Everyone does have this ability andit's used by us all. Maybe some arejust much better with it!
quote:Originally posted by MoonMystic:Teasel wrote: ^ yes. Everyone does have this ability andit's used by us all. Maybe some arejust much better with it!
In my experience, it isn't dependent on signs. Having dealt with that Taurus for fifteen years, I'm tired of this kind of thing getting dumped on Scorpio, and mutable signs. He's a Taurus, and it offers no stabilizing influence. He will admit the truth, and then turn around and say it was just to pacify me, that he wasn't really admitting to anything, it was to calm the Angry Aries who has been lied about and punished for his actions, for much too long now. All because I turned him down, when he hit on me, and set boundaries (I don't want to be around him).
quote:Originally posted by DualGemV2:I'm just curious what you guys think. I'm dealing with a nasty Scorpio aunt thats using my Grandmas ailing health to appear important.EDIT-------My Sag uncle who is second in charge of my Grandma's care is well aware. But the rest of the family doesn't seem to.My Planets=========================================☉‘ ♊, ☽ ♈, ASC ♑, ☿ ♊, ˇ÷ ♉, ˇö ♋ , ♃ ♒, ♄ ♏, ♅ ♐, ♆ ♑
Several Sagittarians here, once admitted to being good liars. I can't remember when.
I'm well aware of what people have done, too, but it never matters.
LIBRATAURUSCANCER
Actually, now that I am thinking about it....I'm gonna put Taurus on top of that list. Sorry Taurus, you may now proceed to tell me, again, that I have done it all to myself and "deserve" your behavior.
Nasty attitude and 2-faced as all he!!! Worse than Gemini :-/
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