My Saturn is on his South Node (the composite Venus-Psyche) & his ASC on my NN so I figured past things might come into play one way or another. I believe they say the planet person collects & the SN "pays" whatever debt owed. I've been going through thoughts to do with the fear of loss (all the way to loss because of death) in recent times which already seems potentially helpful for whatever in the future, clearing such things out. He and someone else also with their SN on my Saturn have both lead to working on it in good ways.I saw the Karma-square to Sun/Moon and wondered what you were going to say about it along with the SN-Nessus. Not sure if the Pluto-Kaali fuelling the Ascendant-Antivertex ties into such things as well.
I'm more or less amused because my first attraction was in part to a side that presents as fairly harsh or severe compared to many other people - but comes with backbone & uprightness, admirable things to an extent. An idealistic view or perception mixed in with harsher tones.
A secondary factor is that he at other times also provokes my partial liking of "dominant" men, and I'm not one to willingly submit to most people. "Measure up or be found wanting" Leo sides? So it seems that I very much so feel things in the composite by nature (and not necessarily as bad things, IF done with someone trustworthy enough in controlled ways - although I'm not in any D/S circles).
Eros/Psyche MP is actually conjunct Uranus-Destinn & opposite Chiron, square Ceres. I think it was far too far to square Orcus although it's next to Ceres.
He is fairly intelligent (as am I) but no idea of sides as per your description otherwise for now.
My birthday is August 22 and I looked to have a possibly stunning solar return chart with three different Parts of Marriage hit by things (including the 6 Capricorn SR ASC on what I consider the "main" PoM) and tons of things in SR 7H. SR Sun-Juno conj Venus conj Vertex conjunct Mars. My "Arabic" Ascendant is around 14 Cancer as well for whatever it's worth, SR Saturn on its DSC at the time.
This person LIKELY isn't anybody I'd want for a longer term partner as I currently see things, but I wondered what I was getting out of it (aside feeling the sexual sides of Mars on my ASC), clearly having the connection. Clearing past things out of the way perhaps.
Not sure if love & pain being mixed ties to working on clearing the fear of loss style things or what, but as said, there are times when submitting is the "desire" he invokes internally through parts of him "screaming" dominance. No idea if there'd sometime be trust enough or if he'd be "worthy/good" enough to consider dwelling into such regions or not. Releasing control perhaps part of the issue, after reading all that. I retain an iron grip on personal control even when drunk.
I'll see about the rest over time, but thank you for the analysis at this time now, Todd.
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Originally posted by todd:
this composite also has the vertex axis on the ascendant axis with Pluto conjunct the ascendant.
this shows that past lives are likely affecting this life this this person.with Saturn/ mars square to pluto, the present interactions are rather harsh and controlling.
with the sun/moon midpoint conjunct to the node nd nessus and square to the asteroid karma,the likelihood is great that this is a past life relationship.
but it seems not to be one of great affection.it seems to be one of subjugation.
venus is conjunct to psyche and these are on the Lilith axis showing a spontaneous upwelling of idealistic, spiritual attraction .
I get ambivalent feelings here because of the darkness and the idealistic expectations.
with Saturn sextile to the moon, there is an easy rapport between you and the midpoint is conjunct to pallas which suggest these feelings give you emotional elation. But Neptune forms a sword of god with Saturn and the moon which bodes that there is deception beneath the feelihgs of loyalty.
the eros/psyche midpoint is square to Uranus and chiron shows a electric empotional atttaction,but one that is unstable. with chiron,it is likely that nothing you will do can satisfy him. \
Jupiter is trine to nessus and the south node and sextile to vesta and opposed to mercury which shows a favorable mental connection with and respect and interest in formal relations possible.this aspect often shows a connection to e workplace of an education endeavor as both are very intelligent
the node will be conjunct to the psyche/Saturn, Saturn/venus,mrs/psyche and mars/Venus midpoints between aug 18th and 24th . I think this is what you are starting to pick up now as the node is with orb.
I am still ambilvalent as I can see the potential of emotional manipulation as the mars/Saturn/pluto aspect show both love and pain as part of their expressions
as your asteroid is square to Saturn and pluto and as orcus is square Uranus/eros/psyche and his asteroid is opposed to orcus , the more this seems a dominant/submissive chart as pain and pleasure are intertwined.
union position suggest you will get together but it seems to be a relationship based on his domination of you.
todd