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T O P I C R E V I E WilunatiqueThe term should not be “UFOs” but should be “The Watchers,” for these robot “guard dogs” of the Elder Gods watch us to learn what appearance they should take on to keep us in abject confusion. Some of us they simply terrify so that we no longer wish to discuss the idea of ‘evil.’ Others they entice with promises of Salvation from Space, likewise to eliminate the idea of ‘evil.The UFOs are there. Beyond that, almost everything thought or said about them is a dreadful mistake. Everything said by them is a lie. THEY ARE REAL! If you don’t believe that, you’re superstitious. But we can’t blame you for being ignorant. The media as news laughs at the “sightings” and reports nothing else. As entertainment the media only presents UFOs as spacecraft. 99% of the UFO paperbacks glutting the market are inherently idiotic, and the 1% that approach the truth seem even more so. Science, journalism, and authority in general exclude what they see as supernatural for as long as possible. And it indeed is supernatural when carved stones inscribed with indecipherable languages fall from a clear blue sky or are found buried 2½ miles underground. The more trained is one not to expect these things, he becomes geometrically less likely to believe the evidence staring him in the face. It’s because The Conspiracy has never wanted you to learn. In order to unlearn their lies and discover what they don’t want you to learn, you must first be willing to believe anything. Once you have done that, you can begin excluding data— which is so easy, it’s what The Con has you do before you learn. Forgetting is always easier than discovering. There are forces helping you to forget. The forces exist without definite form, but only with an intention and a thirst to gain form, to take on life. WE are what gives them “shape.” And the Elder Gods have much worse ones up their “sleeves.” The only other important thing to know about them is that they lie. Whether they appear as Aryan Venusians from “The Confederacy of Planets” spreading racist/utopian ******** , or as disembodied “Ascended Masters of the Spirit Plane” with names like “Clarion” and “Ankor” and “Ariel” in order to tell little old “mediums” about the coming New Age, they are LYING THEIR ***** OFF. They make you think you’re “Chosen” so that they can sap the energy of your belief in them specifically. They are inert without the energy of human belief and shapeless without human expectations. Messing with them in any way is like handing them a signed blank check to your psychic energy bank. As the worlds’ peoples become more terrified, the collective unconscious gives the beings more power. Waves of sightings occur just prior to world crises. UFO “flaps” and the ground and water monsters that accompany them are generated in times of greatest racial stress. We see them as they wish us to see them, but only within the limits of our expectations. Thus, in the past, they appeared as angels and devils, whereas they appeared as airships in the early days of human aviation, and as spaceships once space travel became comprehensible to us. Next they may start looking like PILLS and TV SETS. They are a great reflection of us as we stand looking at the pond of the universe. We cast the pebbles that cause the ripples of distortion that make them so ugly. We can instead leave the pond alone and let it go placid, or we can dive right into the pond and hope that our trust and confidence will be reflected in it, which is rare. But if you dive in, you’d better know how to swim. Skinny-dipping in the waters of the paranormal can be CREEPY and you’d best pick a sunny day so that you don’t panic when your feet brush the nameless slimey things on the bottom. Mess with the Elder Gods only if you have to—if you are called. In general, the way to handle a “Close Encounter” of any kind is to run like hell. All of the phenomena are dangerous unless “Bob” says otherwise; they can alter history and not necessarily for the better, and only “Bob” knows how to handle the fire we must use to fight the inferno of The Watchers. The Air Force knows a little more about them than they let on, but not much. They keep their mouths shut about UFOs for the same reason The Con doesn’t talk about “Bob.” Why should they admit to the public that there is an enemy about which they know almost nothing and against which they are utterly helpless? (The C.I.A. and some even more secretive elements of The Con have prototype UFOs, but they’re like model Ts compared to the real thing.) Besides, except for top brass, most of the military has no idea that the country is run by PUPPETS kept dancing by inhuman hands from above, that the line of control goes upwards.ilunatique YOUR PART IN THE EVIL ONES’ PLAN Behind each bigwig in the smokefilled boardrooms of The Conspiracy’s New York “bunkers” is a shadowy “consultant” telling him how to deal his cards …The Men In Black behind them work as one. The slightest ghastly murmuring from one of these creatures is enough to make a Senator break into a cold sweat, a Prime Minister suddenly change his tune, a CIA operative inexplicably decide not to give the complete report. When the Migraine Machine is activated in those boardrooms, ALL arguments with THE PLAN are cut short faster than Darth Vader’s mindbeams can choke a Death Star captain. Let us note in passing that the true symbol of The Conspiracy (called by some The Illuminati, which is actually just one important sect) is not the Eye-in-the- Pyramid—for that is the symbol of the Elder Gods—but the little-seen red emblem of a plastic spoon, fork and knife partially crossed in an ill travesty of the Christian Cross death-sign. The reason for this stupid logo: plastic because that is the nature of it all, the eating utensils because they “eat” us. They are cannibals—not so much in the sense of devouring human flesh, for they do that only on special occasions, but in the sense that they consume our energy. The Men In Black do eat human flesh, as often as possible, and they draw off our psychic juices. And they’re small- timers compared to their masters. Despite their preternatural powers to vanish at will and to overcome minds, they are the least “alien” of all The Watchers. Their squelching of human initiative is done indirectly, through humanity’s would-be leaders. The other Watchers operate with considerably less subtlety, and they have done so throughout history. They wiped out the dinosaurs on a picnic, just as we killed off the buffalo. The Ice Age was caused by their version of ‘atomic testing.’ They introduced human sacrifice to the Mayans in Yucatan, the Incas in Peru and the Aztecs in Mexico. They were the “disgusting abominations” who enslaved the Sumerians and spread the worship of false idols (like mathematics and astronomy) through Babylonia while appearing in the guise of the fish-man “Oannes.” The Easter Islanders dropped their chisels, stopped carving Dobbsheads and took to their canoes overnight when the amphibious lobster-men of Dagon started swarming ashore. The giant ‘runways’ and ‘landing pads’ at the Nazca Plain and others in South America, vast scary figures with paranoid eyes and gnashing teeth visible as such only from the air, were painstakingly etched into the rock by those Indians not as invitations to the gods, but as vain attempts to scare them away. I WROTE MYSELF ABOUT THESE ENERGY EATERS NOT SO LONG AGO HERE http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum29/HTML/000299.html IN VERY VERY VERY MUCH DETAIL AND EXTRA DETAIL http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum29/HTML/000308.html Randall TensionEmpirewho is "Bob"?ValentineI believe every word you said. Though I refuse to be paranoid.PixieJane quote:Originally posted by TensionEmpire:who is "Bob"?Bob: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._R._%22Bob%22_Dobbs The wiki link mentions how an internet-based poll named J.R. "Bob" Dobbs the #1 "Phoney or Fraud" of the 20th century, but failed to mention that his Church of the Subgenius (that is, Bob's "followers") campaigned heavily for him to win, and probably cast many of the votes themselves making Bob the "winner." Also see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_the_SubGenius TensionEmpiredouble wammy, sorry!TensionEmpireHey Pixie! thanks!now I understand a lil bit more hahabut "bob" seems kind of funny for me and the church, with all my respect, seems "americanoid?"like I want to keep my respect and be neutral, but this is something that seems that would only work in americaPixieJaneThe "church" is a parody (I can't tell if Illunatique is playing with us or if she has mistaken the joke for something serious). They're being silly with many genuine cultish and conspiracy beliefs, especially those common when it was growing.And yet it's too simple to say they're just having fun and pranking us, there is enlightenment to be had by following it, but it's not from believing it, rather it's about learning to question everything you believe because it trains your mind to both expect everything to be BS, and then to appreciate paradox (and ultimately that all things are true and not, depending on how you look at it, especially if you allow metaphor into the mix). If you want an in depth explanation then find the book by Margot Adler called Drawing Down the Moon and read the chapter on Religions of Paradox and Play. I don't think it mentions "Bob" or the Church of the Subgenius, but the explanation of Discordianism within that chapter can be applied in many ways to the Church of the Subgenius.As I haven't had breakfast yet, I'm going to apologize in advance in case I'm not clear (since if I deleted this until later as I almost did then it would raise many questions and get people curious).TensionEmpireOhh yeah, a prank makes more sence, thats me beeing naiv again! hahaI think I got the idea of discordance also!toddthere is a youtube video I saw awhile back but I can't remember exactly who it was, but the woman, world recognized, past official at the international monetary fund was filmed talking about the influence of aliens on the governments of the world.the concept of reptilian aliens controlling of influencing our civilization is not really as bizarre as it seems.homo sapiens have existed for about 200,000 year and in the last 150 years have gone from horse and buggys to space travel.why could not reptilian life, which have been around for 100's of millions of years, not evolved a consciousness able to travel in space millions of years ago.the fraud of the enlightenment is that science is a new art and that all consciousness before the advent of science, 500 hundred years ago , is false. the fraud of time being linear allows us to be programmed to the idea that science is the epitome of conscious knowledge and has never existed before.toddTensionEmpireSo if I eat the tale of a alligator, they don`t likeI once ssaw a film for kids of 2 kids on space fighting agains reptile humanoids!RandallInteresting.
The UFOs are there. Beyond that, almost everything thought or said about them is a dreadful mistake. Everything said by them is a lie. THEY ARE REAL! If you don’t believe that, you’re superstitious. But we can’t blame you for being ignorant. The media as news laughs at the “sightings” and reports nothing else. As entertainment the media only presents UFOs as spacecraft. 99% of the UFO paperbacks glutting the market are inherently idiotic, and the 1% that approach the truth seem even more so. Science, journalism, and authority in general exclude what they see as supernatural for as long as possible. And it indeed is supernatural when carved stones inscribed with indecipherable languages fall from a clear blue sky or are found buried 2½ miles underground. The more trained is one not to expect these things, he becomes geometrically less likely to believe the evidence staring him in the face. It’s because The Conspiracy has never wanted you to learn. In order to unlearn their lies and discover what they don’t want you to learn, you must first be willing to believe anything. Once you have done that, you can begin excluding data— which is so easy, it’s what The Con has you do before you learn. Forgetting is always easier than discovering. There are forces helping you to forget. The forces exist without definite form, but only with an intention and a thirst to gain form, to take on life. WE are what gives them “shape.”
And the Elder Gods have much worse ones up their “sleeves.” The only other important thing to know about them is that they lie. Whether they appear as Aryan Venusians from “The Confederacy of Planets” spreading racist/utopian ******** , or as disembodied “Ascended Masters of the Spirit Plane” with names like “Clarion” and “Ankor” and “Ariel” in order to tell little old “mediums” about the coming New Age, they are LYING THEIR ***** OFF. They make you think you’re “Chosen” so that they can sap the energy of your belief in them specifically. They are inert without the energy of human belief and shapeless without human expectations. Messing with them in any way is like handing them a signed blank check to your psychic energy bank.
As the worlds’ peoples become more terrified, the collective unconscious gives the beings more power. Waves of sightings occur just prior to world crises. UFO “flaps” and the ground and water monsters that accompany them are generated in times of greatest racial stress.
We see them as they wish us to see them, but only within the limits of our expectations. Thus, in the past, they appeared as angels and devils, whereas they appeared as airships in the early days of human aviation, and as spaceships once space travel became comprehensible to us. Next they may start looking like PILLS and TV SETS. They are a great reflection of us as we stand looking at the pond of the universe. We cast the pebbles that cause the ripples of distortion that make them so ugly. We can instead leave the pond alone and let it go placid, or we can dive right into the pond and hope that our trust and confidence will be reflected in it, which is rare. But if you dive in, you’d better know how to swim. Skinny-dipping in the waters of the paranormal can be CREEPY and you’d best pick a sunny day so that you don’t panic when your feet brush the nameless slimey things on the bottom.
Mess with the Elder Gods only if you have to—if you are called. In general, the way to handle a “Close Encounter” of any kind is to run like hell. All of the phenomena are dangerous unless “Bob” says otherwise; they can alter history and not necessarily for the better, and only “Bob” knows how to handle the fire we must use to fight the inferno of The Watchers.
The Air Force knows a little more about them than they let on, but not much. They keep their mouths shut about UFOs for the same reason The Con doesn’t talk about “Bob.” Why should they admit to the public that there is an enemy about which they know almost nothing and against which they are utterly helpless? (The C.I.A. and some even more secretive elements of The Con have prototype UFOs, but they’re like model Ts compared to the real thing.) Besides, except for top brass, most of the military has no idea that the country is run by PUPPETS kept dancing by inhuman hands from above, that the line of control goes upwards.
YOUR PART IN THE EVIL ONES’ PLAN Behind each bigwig in the smokefilled boardrooms of The Conspiracy’s New York “bunkers” is a shadowy “consultant” telling him how to deal his cards …The Men In Black behind them work as one. The slightest ghastly murmuring from one of these creatures is enough to make a Senator break into a cold sweat, a Prime Minister suddenly change his tune, a CIA operative inexplicably decide not to give the complete report. When the Migraine Machine is activated in those boardrooms, ALL arguments with THE PLAN are cut short faster than Darth Vader’s mindbeams can choke a Death Star captain.
Let us note in passing that the true symbol of The Conspiracy (called by some The Illuminati, which is actually just one important sect) is not the Eye-in-the- Pyramid—for that is the symbol of the Elder Gods—but the little-seen red emblem of a plastic spoon, fork and knife partially crossed in an ill travesty of the Christian Cross death-sign. The reason for this stupid logo: plastic because that is the nature of it all, the eating utensils because they “eat” us. They are cannibals—not so much in the sense of devouring human flesh, for they do that only on special occasions, but in the sense that they consume our energy. The Men In Black do eat human flesh, as often as possible, and they draw off our psychic juices. And they’re small- timers compared to their masters. Despite their preternatural powers to vanish at will and to overcome minds, they are the least “alien” of all The Watchers. Their squelching of human initiative is done indirectly, through humanity’s would-be leaders.
The other Watchers operate with considerably less subtlety, and they have done so throughout history.
They wiped out the dinosaurs on a picnic, just as we killed off the buffalo. The Ice Age was caused by their version of ‘atomic testing.’ They introduced human sacrifice to the Mayans in Yucatan, the Incas in Peru and the Aztecs in Mexico. They were the “disgusting abominations” who enslaved the Sumerians and spread the worship of false idols (like mathematics and astronomy) through Babylonia while appearing in the guise of the fish-man “Oannes.” The Easter Islanders dropped their chisels, stopped carving Dobbsheads and took to their canoes overnight when the amphibious lobster-men of Dagon started swarming ashore. The giant ‘runways’ and ‘landing pads’ at the Nazca Plain and others in South America, vast scary figures with paranoid eyes and gnashing teeth visible as such only from the air, were painstakingly etched into the rock by those Indians not as invitations to the gods, but as vain attempts to scare them away.
I WROTE MYSELF ABOUT THESE ENERGY EATERS NOT SO LONG AGO HERE http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum29/HTML/000299.html
IN VERY VERY VERY MUCH DETAIL AND EXTRA DETAIL http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum29/HTML/000308.html
quote:Originally posted by TensionEmpire:who is "Bob"?
Bob: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._R._%22Bob%22_Dobbs
The wiki link mentions how an internet-based poll named J.R. "Bob" Dobbs the #1 "Phoney or Fraud" of the 20th century, but failed to mention that his Church of the Subgenius (that is, Bob's "followers") campaigned heavily for him to win, and probably cast many of the votes themselves making Bob the "winner."
Also see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_the_SubGenius
And yet it's too simple to say they're just having fun and pranking us, there is enlightenment to be had by following it, but it's not from believing it, rather it's about learning to question everything you believe because it trains your mind to both expect everything to be BS, and then to appreciate paradox (and ultimately that all things are true and not, depending on how you look at it, especially if you allow metaphor into the mix). If you want an in depth explanation then find the book by Margot Adler called Drawing Down the Moon and read the chapter on Religions of Paradox and Play. I don't think it mentions "Bob" or the Church of the Subgenius, but the explanation of Discordianism within that chapter can be applied in many ways to the Church of the Subgenius.
As I haven't had breakfast yet, I'm going to apologize in advance in case I'm not clear (since if I deleted this until later as I almost did then it would raise many questions and get people curious).
the concept of reptilian aliens controlling of influencing our civilization is not really as bizarre as it seems.homo sapiens have existed for about 200,000 year and in the last 150 years have gone from horse and buggys to space travel.
why could not reptilian life, which have been around for 100's of millions of years, not evolved a consciousness able to travel in space millions of years ago.
the fraud of the enlightenment is that science is a new art and that all consciousness before the advent of science, 500 hundred years ago , is false. the fraud of time being linear allows us to be programmed to the idea that science is the epitome of conscious knowledge and has never existed before.
todd
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