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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted October 11, 2004 02:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyone else have a Cappy ASC, or know anything about these people? I think maybe I'm not paying enough attention to Saturn's role in my chart (big surprise, right?)... is it true the asc ruler also rules the chart, or, are there stipulations, or what?

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posted October 11, 2004 02:49 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Ascendant in Capricorn

with a key phrase of: Progress.

You have a serious and reserved facade, and during your early years you developed the commitment and self-discipline to rise above many difficulties and obstacles in your family life. You carry a burden of high expectations and are often afflicted by gnawing doubts concerning your ability. You probably work too hard and give yourself too little time to express your emotions. Conversely you tend to attract the emotional type of partner who is looking for security and is attracted by your responsible and hardworking nature.

Frustrated by your inhibited and formal nature, your partner will make many emotional demands. The more you soften up and trust your feelings, the more your partner will feel stabilised emotionally. The fewer burden you take on, the less dependant your partner will be."

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"Capricorn Rising

gives an image of an ambitious person intent upon achieving material security. She takes into consideration anything to which she has access, to facilitate her in her upward climb to success. Because of her prudence, she is adept at utilizing any information she comes by. She may appear as aloof, cool, or at least reserved, especially on first impression. Anything she does has a purpose, and is done to reach a practical goal. Patience, discipline and hard work help her to reach the goals, which were set early in life.

Though her journey may be slow, she is sure-footed and never changes direction. Organized and systematic, she is capable of handling heavy responsibilities and obligations. Her reputation is very important to her and she feels a need to develop herself fully. For whatever she contributes, she feels she deserves something in return, and she wants to feel appreciated. Saturn in the 1st house shows similar tendencies. Key phrase for Capricorn: “I utilize”. With Capricorn rising, you are attracted to Cancer, governing the 7th house cusp. Cancer’s nurturing qualities help balance out a serious business sense.

Capricorn is the Cardinal Earth sign, corresponding in the natural zodiac to the tenth house of the career and professional goals."

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Thethirdbenjamin
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posted October 11, 2004 04:36 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a capircorn/aquarious cusp in my first house.

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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted October 11, 2004 09:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aside from the seriousness and tendency toward self-doubt, that sounds nothing like me. I am undoubtedly one of the most irresponsible, undisciplined, and unmotivated people I've ever known. My lack of ambition is mind-boggling.

(Sure, in theory, I'd like to walk the earth in search of enlightenment, donning nothing but the cloth upon my loins, ministering to the disenfranchised, and eventually die a horrible martyr's death, thereby giving strength and hope to countless generations.... but, seriously, talk about your "vanity of vanities".)

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key
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posted October 11, 2004 10:10 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Capricorn Rising, and Astro Junkie's description fits me perfectly. I am also married to a Cap sun with Cancer rising!

I have sun, moon, and mars and Aries, and a very high energy level. I usually have lots of projects and activities going at once. I suppose because of my Cap Rising, I keep on working until the projects are done.

I work HARD (to quote President Bush!). I am driven, intense, and will work non-stop to meet a goal. My saturn is in the 8th house, (in virgo), opposite jupiter (in pisces) in the 2nd house. A great deal of my "work" is in taking care of relatives, usually older - because no one else in the family will pick up the slack. I am always shocked when they later leave me $, or insist on giving me $.

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posted October 11, 2004 10:50 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Heart Shaped Cross -

Maybe the birth time is a little off, they say it's not uncommon. Either that, or there are stronger influences in your chart. Do you have any aspects to your Asc?

Let's see ... for the heck of it, do any of these two sound more like you?

"Ascendant in Sagittarius

with a key phrase of: Influence & understanding.

You are powerfully motivated to understand your place in the world and the meaning of your existence. Your curiosity and need to explore your boundaries will lead you to travel considerably during the course of your life. If or when you prefer the settled life, then you will read, study and discuss to gain further insight into the world. You are philosophically orientated, seeking depth and answers. In partnership matters you may often feel that your opinions are trivialised; conversely other people feel you take yourself to seriously. When you are bombastic and opinionated, other people compensate by being flippant or, in your eyes, superficial. An acceptance of the relativity and diversity of truth, and a certain self-deprecating humour, can make you easier to get on with."

"Ascendant in Aquarius

with a key phrase of: Future vision.

You may well have had an unusual upbringing which will have brought out the outsider in your nature. You are a friendly person, extremely curious about other people, yet you may often feel that you do not belong. You seek out groups to be with and are extremely loyal, but may be disappointed by your friends. It is difficult for you to understand that the bonds of friendship do not supersede those of family or marriage. In your own intimate relationships, partners find you friendly but cool and distant. You have very little personal ego, and have difficulty understanding what you see as other people's self-obsession. You are stubborn, particularly as regards your opinions.

However you are an original and fascinating person. You can strike out on a unique course in life and pave a way into the future which can be an inspiring example for future generations."

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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted October 11, 2004 05:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They both sound more like me than the Cap descriptions. Sagittarius more so, but I've read Aquarius Rising descriptions before that have been spot-on. Jeanne Avery's book on Rising Signs is really good.

I do have strong Sag and Aquarius influences elswhere in the chart, so its pretty vague.

Aspects to my ASC:

Sun Sextile 6°57'
Mercury Semisquare 1°19' Orb
Venus Sextile 5°01'
Saturn Trine ???
Uranus Sextile 4°19'
Pluto Square 3°13'
Midheaven Sextile 4°25'
N. Node Trine 3°17'

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astro junkie
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posted October 11, 2004 06:20 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wonder if Trine's & Sextile's can affect the Asc in the same way a Conjunction does.

Does anyone know? Where it colors his Asc? Or do they just basically help the energies flow and get along.

I have -

Sun Trine MC
Moon Sextile Asc
Jupiter Trine Asc
Saturn Trine Asc

also have the dreamiest Planets shaking things up -

Uranus Square Asc
Neptune Square MC

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goldielox512
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posted October 11, 2004 07:19 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
my virgo husband is capricorn asc.
me taurus with cancer asc. 1st
funny my 7th house is capricorn descendant
his 7th house is cancer descendant
my moon is 11 aires
his moon is in leo 7th house again
his mc is scorpio
my mc is pisces
he just works constantly and is a very good provider and brings home good money
nothing seems to tear us apart is like a karmic super glue that holds us together we've battled alot and still keep the fire going after 16 years. its together forever

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puppyblew
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posted October 12, 2004 12:10 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i've got a cappy rising. whenever people met me they all tease me about not talking enough. i come off as very shy, reserved, and a bit of an observant watcher. but, once they get to know me they realize i never shut up. i am more reserved than most people however, and i tend to dress "classicly" as in movie star of a by gone era chic. when i was younger, i would get asked like 10 times a day "what's wrong?" i guess i have a melancholy appearance. people also always mistake me for being years younger than i am.... cappy, cappy, cappy!

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26taurus
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posted October 12, 2004 01:41 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi. Another Cappy ASC here.

I find that I fit the descriptions I read of Cap rising - BUT - also I often fit the descriptions of Aqua rising. I have that sign intercepted in the first. Someone once told me that intercepted signs (the whole sign inside one house - not on the cusp of any houses), tend to 'blossom' or 'flower' outwardly for that person as the years go by. It's like the intercepted sign is hidden from others - and the self - and slowly starts to emerge over the years. I would say this is true. I am more and more like an Aqua ASC as the days go by. It may have to do with Uranus conj. my MC as well - making me appear even more 'Aquarian-like'.

Heart Shaped -

If I rememer correctly you were born in Boston. I was born in Dorchesta! So I'm thinking you may have an interceped first house yourself. Because people born at that latitude and longetude on the planet, tend to have interceped houses. Check it out. You may have Aqua interceped in the first as well and that might be why you feel the descriptions dont fit you well. (along with other chart factors)

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Aside from the seriousness and tendency toward self-doubt, that sounds nothing like me. I am undoubtedly one of the most irresponsible, undisciplined, and unmotivated people I've ever known. My lack of ambition is mind-boggling.

LOL! I hear you!!

BTW, where's Uranus? You've gotta have Uranus in the 9th or 10th too....right up by the MC, right? That will have an affect on you too.

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key
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posted October 12, 2004 12:18 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Goldie!!

It is the same with my husband and me!! Nothing can tear us apart. The (2) of us have a lot of the same synastry combinations that you (2) have. What I love about him (CAP sun and CANCER rising), is that I can always count on him and he is kind. We moved to the Philadelphia area from Boston. Maine is beautiful!

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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted October 12, 2004 01:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
puppy -

I may as well have written that myself; (except for the part about classic, movie-star dress) I fit your description perfectly. I swear, the next person who asks me 'what's wrong' is going to get a fist-ful of what's wrong...


taurus -

Yes I do have Aquarius Intercepted (and Leo intercepted in the 7th). My Aqua moon is at 0 degrees, approx. 10 degrees from the ASC. I do have a Uranus/Venus/Sun/MC Conjunction.

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posted October 12, 2004 09:41 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yea maine is beautiful, my home for 43 years,
my husband drives an 18 wheeler he travels maine to Pennsylvania 2x weekly i go with him often i like going to philly he brings me shopping at different places i like Kohl's alot. 3 weeks ago we went to nj, palisades mall it is 4 stories high with a carousel, roller coaster and they have race car motion simulated rides, its a real car you sit in like your racing they indy i love traveling. pennsylvania is alot like maine if i ever moved it would probably be there its also very beautiful. i don't think you get as much cold weather there as we get here winter last forever gets depressing by march

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posted October 12, 2004 09:44 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What does it mean to have things intercepted? I have Pisces/Virgo.

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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted October 12, 2004 10:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi eight,
I think it means when a sign begins and ends in a house, but I'm not entirely sure.

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Nadalie
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posted October 13, 2004 10:46 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Another cappy rising here. My sun sign is in leo, moon in sag. Nobody ever guess my sun sign. They think I’m Gemini or something else. I have something of leo appearance, green eyes lots of hairs, good teeth. But I am kind of shy especially with strangers. I look Ok an peoples often think that i am puffed up.
Last year I was having so much trouble with my health. Steel feeling it…

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Sorry about my English. Still learning.

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Nadalie
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posted October 13, 2004 10:49 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh I forget my current boyfriend is Cancer, Leo rising. Interesting…

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Aquarian Girl
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posted October 13, 2004 11:12 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Both my husband and my best friend are Cappy rising and both are US Marines. My husband is a Pisces sun-Aries moon, best friend is a Libra sun and moon.

Outwardly both are extraordinarily disciplined and conservative in many aspects of their lives, both are very responsible and interested in doing well and doing the "right" thing. My husband is much more money and status motivated and a born salesman, he's extraordinarily charming. Best friend is a little more understated and tasteful, also very charming, but in a different way. He's not such a joker and doesn't need to be the centre of attention all the time like hubby does, lol. But anyone's first impression of the two of them would be that they are solid, responsible, respectable, hard-working, dependable, honest, etc.

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You have a serious and reserved facade, and during your early years you developed the commitment and self-discipline to rise above many difficulties and obstacles in your family life.

That resounds true for them both. My husband had a horrible childhood where his mother was involved in selling drugs and prostitution and was deported when he was 10. Then he went to live with his father and his father's new family who were Jehovah's Witnesses. He wasn't a bad kid, just a normal bratty teenager, but of course a power struggle ensued with his step-mother who gave his father an ultimatum which had my husband out on his ass at 16. So he ended up forfeiting a full svholarship to the San Francisco College of Art because he had to drop out of school to support himself... and then he met a Marine Corp recruiter who helped him get his GED and he shipped off to boot camp right after his 17th birthday.

My best friend came from a similar background. His mother was mentally ill and he was in and out of foster homes for most of his childhood. He was involved with gangs, but luckily instead, he went into the Marines right after high school.

I think it's interesting, the only two Cappy RISING ( ) ppl I know have such similar lives and backgrounds. Especially regarding their family. Don't know what evryone else's experience of them has been like, but obviously I think highly of them since one is my husband and the other is one of my best friends. They're the only two outside of my blood relatives I could really honestly count on for anything, anytime, nothing being out of the question.... Cheers.

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posted October 13, 2004 04:41 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aquariuan Girl -

** Correction on your last sentence there - you mean Cappy RISINGS (not mooner's - right?) ** You can edit your original post.

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Aquarian Girl
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posted October 14, 2004 10:40 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh geez, yeah, I always do that in my posts for some reason, I type mooners or rising when I mean one or the other.

Yeah, both are Capricorn rising

(let me fix that)

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