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Archer
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posted January 08, 2005 03:05 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
1. i have saturn in 2nd house (scorpio) which doesnot form any aspect with anyother planets or AC, IC, DC, MC at all. what is this type of planet called and what significance does it hold?

2. i have studies astroclick portrait in astro.com but i still don't understand what factor in my chart makes me so lazy. can someone tell me?

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Archer
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posted January 08, 2005 03:11 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
my chart... http://www.astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?rs=3&btyp=w2gw&

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Angelicus
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posted January 08, 2005 12:05 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Archer

Post your chart here,I canīt get it from your web link

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Archer
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posted January 08, 2005 11:51 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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Archer
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posted January 09, 2005 06:04 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
someone answer please!

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Archer
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posted January 09, 2005 06:05 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
angelicus reminds me of my friend angelika. isn't that german for angel?

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Yin
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posted January 09, 2005 09:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Archer, create an account in www.photobucket.com and then upload your chart there. After that you can post on the boards here and the image would not expire.

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cristiname
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posted January 09, 2005 09:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cristiname     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
a planet with no aspects is known as 'peregrine' - Noel Tyl brought this concept into the limelight, so try his books or his site www.noeltyl.com

basicaly, such a planet is a 'lonely' one - having no relationships with the others, it will not be involved in 'common' decissions, so at some point or another it will get sick of being ignored and will firmly set its foot on the ground... Tyl sais 'it runs away with the chart'...

it will do its own thing, rgardless of how it would affect anything else...

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moonstar77
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posted January 09, 2005 11:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for moonstar77     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lol, imagine a planet really running away with your natal chart.

Unaspected Jupiter: "hey look at me! over here! helloooo! Anyone??
All the other planets: who is that guy? I can't relate to him.
(Jupiter finally getting sick of it, grabs natal chart and runs away)

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Archer
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posted January 09, 2005 11:55 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks, that was a lot of info. i'll just do that yin.

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Archer
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posted January 10, 2005 11:12 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
now where is angelicus? i have punt on the chart already.

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astro junkie
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posted January 12, 2005 12:57 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Archer -

Why do I get the feeling you are more paralyzed with fear of failure than you are "lazy"?

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sthenri
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posted January 12, 2005 01:00 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Archer it looks like there is a minor aspect from Saturn to Uranus, do you conflict with authority? It looks like an inconjunct? Do Unaspected planets have minor aspects? I read these aspects too, it looks like I have unaspected Saturn too, with no major aspects but if you look at my chart there are actually two minor aspects,
So what's the verdict?

Natasha

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Aquarian Girl
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posted January 12, 2005 02:05 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moonstarr77 that's hilarious

I thought an unaspected planet was also referred to as a type of singleton... so archer would have a singleton saturn, would he not?

I have Uranus in Scorpio which doesn't make any major aspects to any planets, except a trine to my north node... and it's the only planet in a water sign. So yeah, I suppose you could say greedy old Uranus has run away with my chart, run amok! Naughty old coot.

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Angelicus
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posted January 12, 2005 05:38 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Hi Archer

Sorry, only today I can have sometime to answer your funny question, why you are so lazy.

I donīt think you are really lazy, but you have all your planets between the 1st and 4th, so it would be somehow difficult to show other people your skills, and be reconized by them...but you have venus on your 2nd so it could give you facility of getting things without much work
The ruller of your ascendent is on the 4th house, so things rellated to the matters of the 4th are very important to you, and you might me a litle be very sensible to that. That planets, posted on the 4th would give you the strength to get your dreams, find it between people near you (4th house opposite 10th, the ruller of 10th on the 3rd
You have a stellium on the 3rd reforcing the importance of it on your life.
you have mars in libre on the first, the ruller of libra is on the 2nd, I think you have the ennergy yo get it, slowly because saturn on the 2nd but solidly.Jupiter near the cuspid of the 4th promise you a big house, so fight for it using your mars energy.

I hope that I ve helped a litle

Angelicus is a latin word for angelical.

bye

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Archer
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posted January 12, 2005 10:27 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
u have helped me a lot angelicus. the lazy a$$ me never bothered to look at my chart closely. consquently all this time i thought my saturn is in 3rd and my stellium in 4th whereas it was one huose behind. thanks.

which is the most dynamic planet in my chart? mars or jupi or some other?

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sun-by
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posted January 13, 2005 02:35 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello Archer,
your chart reminds me of my husband's. He, too, has almost all his planets in the 1st quadrant. In German astrological circles it is said that there are 4 sensitive points, namely the angles of the 1st, 4th, 7th and 10th houses and that these points indicate where energies are directly. Planets along these points have the most energy and express themselves therefore in the particular life sectors esp. vigorously. The 1st angle marking the asc. is considered the "I" point (Ich Punkt), the 7th or desc. the "you" point. This divides the chart into an ego or self directed chart or you/we directed chart, which seeks others for completion, which needs resonance or what Germans call "echo." You don't have any plants in the "you" section, which means you are self-directed. Planets near the 10th are outer planets, which pertain to activities and thrusts in the social realm, during the day, the zenith, where the light of consciousness and direct impulse-control are brightest, whereas planets assembled near the 4th deal with the inner or personal realm, also the nighttime. 4th house is after all midnight. This is dream-time. These planets workin through the unconscious. So it is said at any rate. Planets in the 1st quadrant are said to be for unconscious ego-development, since they are on the I side and below the horizon in the night sector. The personal ego-growth agenda is strong. This incarnation is not able connecting and considering what OTHER'S want and need but who you are, what you need, how you will achieve these goals. You don't live to bond. You live to determine your personal worth-- 2nd house is what you believe you are worth, what is worth having, worth working for, and of course, your worth, often abbreviated as possessions, equity, wealth. It is considered a money house, but unlike it's complementary opposite, the 8th, not money acquired through others (i.e. credit, partnership, inheritance) but through your own efforts.

That's just a start. If I knew how to do graphics, I'd show the astrological life wheel divided at the horizon, East and West, the lower part shaded to indicate night consciousness. Then I'd put "I" at the asc., "You" at the desc., "Outer" at the MC, "Inner" at the IC. Thus one line divides the horizon and another vertically, creating a horizontal axis, with left and right halves of the horoscope, another vertically with upper and lower halves, both lines intersecting at the middle creating a cross. This is the crucifixion of the soul on the wheel of life, the axis of time and space, this is incarnation, so to speak. Imagine someone standing with extending arms as if nailed to a cross on these lines: the head is at the 10th thinking about activities and events in the outer world. The feet are planted at the base in the 4th, our foundation. The extended arms reach to the "I" and "You" parts, and interestingly enough the left hand is at the receiving end (which also what chiromancy teaches: left receives impulses from destiny, right hand directs destiny). The right hand takes control, writes its own script. Visually it's very obvious. Verbally.... too opaque.

Hope this helps. It's just a start. I don't know if these concepts are familiar in America or India. Feedback would be nice!
Sun-By

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Archer
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posted January 13, 2005 06:16 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
that was awesome indepth info my friend. i wonder if ur an astrologer. most of my thinking is subconsious maybe because of what u say... 'most planets in the night side'. i also have a touh time realizing my ego. maybe because mars is in first house but below the asc. now i'm beginning to understand much more.

one reason for being lazy my indian astrologer gave loking at the chart was that the planets are concentrated on one side of the chart if arranged according to one sign one house indian astro system. it must be noted that now i'm finding revelant info from both system's on astro.

i have always yearned to learn money management and multiplying techniques somehow my father wouldn't talk about it.

which do u think is the most ijmportant planet in my chart that i should work with?

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Archer
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posted January 13, 2005 08:07 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hey aj, i think ur right is what u feel. i have had a couple of defeats after defeats in my life for 6 years now. the only vistory was getting good marks in 10th grade(considerd important here). are that, all failures.

let me list them...
2 macho guys in school beat the heck out of me.
then 3 guys in my apartment did so.
then i got my 10th results.
then i had a fight with my best friend (taurus) who injured me badly.
the fight with my mom and dad where i couldn't get physical.

and so on...

these eventually detroyed my ego and made me lack in confidance.

anyway, all that is over. pluto in my solar domain is surely making me fear a lot. lets see what i can bring outta it.

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astro junkie
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posted January 13, 2005 12:52 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your fear of failure is compounded by your trouble MOVING ON - stop living in the past ...

Resolve to forgive yourself and move on. I've said to you before, you need to get up, get out, travel, start your own life away from everything from your past for a while. It doesn't take any genius philosophy to get that accomplished.

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Archer
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posted January 13, 2005 12:55 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
its happening but slowly. the things is the future is so uncertian that it chills my spine. after all in almost everything i do i'm just an average performer.

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astro junkie
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posted January 13, 2005 01:21 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'll tell you a secret Archer. If I meet someone new, whether on the street, in a store, etc. - if right away they start talking very harshly of themselves, calling themselves names ("average"?), and being overjudgmental of themselves, you know what I do? Basically walk away, because more than likely, they ARE judgmental people towards others as well ...


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Archer
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posted January 13, 2005 09:39 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
u have hit the buzzer! ur right. i'm judgemental about myslef but subconsiously about others too. but then doesnot judging others help us in knowing them more?

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posted January 13, 2005 10:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for future_uncertain     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Archer,

You have asked a good question and I think a lot of people get tripped up on this whether they realize it or not. I suppose we do all "judge" people against our own value systems, which can be helpful in determining if someone is harmful to our well-being. The trick is to be able to accept people who may not share our values, but who may be fantastic people nonetheless from whom we may be able to learn something new!

I think AJ is right, too... not so much that you're lazy, but paralyzed with fear. You may not recognize the paralysis as being caused by fear, but it's probably a result of a fear of something. I can really relate with this. It's not something I had noticed in myself until a teacher at school pointed it out to me. I always wondered why I can be so lazy, too. I felt like I was defeating myself. I knew what things I wanted to do, but instead I did nothing. I was writing some "fiction" *is there such a thing as "auto-biographical fiction?!* and I gave it to my teacher and he noticed an overall theme of paralysis in all of my stories. That's when I realized that I was the one holding myself back! Some things have changed since then, but it's been slow... the difference is that now I have the awareness to recognize when this is happening and at least I'm not moving backward anymore.

I hope this helps a little bit. How old are you? It seems like this has been going on for you for a while. It may be time for you to take control of your life and make it go where you want it to instead of waiting for it to happen to you!

Best wishes to you, Archer!

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Archer
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posted January 13, 2005 11:06 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi future certain. i shouldhave that screen name instead. lol!

i'm 21. my therapist says the same thing...don't wait for it to happen, make it happen.

since last 5 years i have been...
a. in a state of paranoia.
b. sexualy charged up with nowhere to express.
c. pshcyologically messedup.

i'm sure this is because of pluto and that this planet will itself help me to bring order out of chaos.

slowly life is improving but i still can't get that big picture.

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