posted July 04, 2005 03:02 PM            

Saturn goes into Leo in about 10 days and even when Saturn won’t exactly conjunct its natal position untin June next year, I have already started to feel this way… There is something in the air…

Most people around me, when they start feeling that way about this, get married or have a child… But my personal life is a complete mess at the moment… Just returned from abroad, starting to find a place for myself in my new world, fighting for independence in a family-oriented culture, no boyfriend, recent emotional turmoil that ended in a failed relationship and an ongoing disappointment with my actual love interest… I’m a abit disoriented to be fair…

Saturn forces us to reconsider our life and decide what we really want… I know what I want. I want to find him, that him I’ve been looking for my whole life… I want a family… And I want a job that allows me to contribute with my very best asset, my clear mind… I want to see the world…

I can’t do anything but wait to see if I find the one… I actually think I have but he seems reluctant to go for it, which makes me doubt… The issue is, trying to do something about the aspects I can control (work), I may be mining my oportunities to find the man I’m looking for…

I have been offered a promising position at work… I couldn’t say no… It’s all I always wanted… Or was it? It involves going to work abroad for at least a year from next summer… I already spent 4 years abroad and I know how lonely it is… It never did nothing for my emotional happiness…

However, as I’m on my own anyway, travelling abroad and a fulfilling professional life is the only thing that can give my life some kind of purpose… That’s the other half of my dream… But I’m thinking, that maybe when I’m back from my adventure, I will be at the same position than now, alone, but a few years older…

Saturn is driving me nuts!!!!!!! I’ve been feeling so trapped recently… I really fancy going abroad for work… That will let me breathe again… Staying here on my own appears is such a gloomy possibility… I would only renounce to that oportunity if I had a partner, the other half of the dream is more important… but I don’t have that option today…

What tortures me is that I may be ruining my chances to have him because I’m running away from my terror of monotony… If I go, which I have already promised to my boss I will, I may be losing my only chance with that old flame… But he is not reacting!!!! I can’t base my life decisions on ilusions or suppositions… I could be ruining my chance to be professionaly happy in exchange for nothing…

posted July 04, 2005 03:52 PM            

My natal Saturn is 25º Leo in the 8th house (Placidus) or 9th house (equal house). It’s conjunct with Venus… My exact Saturn return will come in November next year (yuk… Nasty unexpected things always happen to me in November… Maybe it’s the transiting Sun touching my natal Uranus…)… And then mid December 2006 and July 2007…

Love will be involved… What else is Venus doing in there then???

So you are saying it will be awful while the bugger is transiting… But then it will develop nicely???

posted July 04, 2005 04:14 PM              

Think of this week as the 'Finale' of really crappy transits that have been haunting you for several months now....looks like they will ease up rapidly after this week.

You still have Cinderella Transits going on through the remainder of the year (Venus/Chiron and Sun/Chiron)...you remember those right?? Those are always good times..even when we are having rough days. Sometimes they accompany 'change' yet it is 'change' that opens new doors for us to walk through!!

Let the Sunshine in Girlfriend!

Cheer up...today is just a nasty one and will be over soon...give it til the end of the week and you will be in a better spirit!

Take good care of yourself...try and do the googling search for more information. I LOVE to do that and then wonder where the HOURs go that I spent surfing endless articles on sites!!

Eat some paella and listen to some FUN music...Believe that you ARE on the right path...even if you are unable to see the way...it will find you!!

Take care-

posted July 05, 2005 11:51 AM              

When I had my Saturn Return around ten years ago, I lost my job (through no fault of my own) and I went into a very long withdrawal period. But of course everyone's Saturn Return affects everybody differently due to the transits of our individual charts that has to be taken into consideration. And my natal Saturn is Retrograde and is in Pisces in the 1st House, which probably had a lot to do with it too.

posted July 05, 2005 03:51 PM            

Hi Gem!!! Yes, I’ve had a very rough patch recently... I’ve been kind of dragging myself through the last months… I remember you telling me about disapointments and rocks in the way for this period… So, are Cinderella transits coming? THANKS GODNESS FOR THAT! I need some good luck and sweet feelings for a change…

I’m feeling a bit better today… I’m looking forward to being free again and go travelling next year… Plus two work colleagues are flirting and wooing me at the moment!!! It feels so great… That old-flame silence and indecisiveness were really bringing me down (still are a little)… It’s getting a bit too heavy, I just want a bit of light fun… Anyway, I suppose Saturn is getting to him as well… His Saturn return comes before mine… Plus it’s his Moon ruler… I’m doing nothing about that, I’m tired; and I have enough on my own plate… He has to go through his Saturn trial as well and make his decision about me…

I actually feel like going out with the girls and release some tension dancing salsa and Spanish music!!! We’ll see what I can do this weekend A pity that half of my friends are away on hols…

Hi Sassy!!! How are you doing? Nice to meet you around here! I’ve missed you. How are things with your Arian? Mine are rubbish… As I said, my Saturn conjuncts my Venus… I’m scared now… More pain regarding love???? At least my Saturn is direct… Maybe it means I need to learn to appreciate love? I need to mature love-wise? I will get the love I wanted after the Saturn return? Karmic implications?

posted July 05, 2005 03:54 PM            

Hi Archer!!!What you said is interesting… Where did you infer it from??? What’s the connection with the conjunction with Venus, or being in Leo, or the 8th/9th house??? I’m so curious now!!!

posted July 05, 2005 04:39 PM              

Everytime I begin to feel sorry for the things I wish I had...things that it seems everyone else has except me (marriage, kids, more money..), I reach out to the Universe and give Love.

Maybe it is as simple as a smile as I pass another person in the grocery store...maybe it is letting someone drive(pull out)in front of me in traffic...maybe it is a simple phone call to say Hi to a friend and talk about THEM, not myself and my worries. I always feel better afterwards and can actually feel the positive energy surrounding me. The trick is to be aware of the energy you are carrying and change it accordingly so that you attract more 'positive' energy in return!!

posted July 06, 2005 03:28 PM            

Gem You said it was going to get better at the end of this week… What about that awful Saturn clash (Chiron-Saturn activation)??? One cannot relax in this life!!!!

I do that karma thing… You do feel better… but then in times like this your energy levels run so low that it’s very hard… You just feel like hiding away in some dark, silent and breezy place where nobody will find you…

I’ve decided. I’m going abroad. It will be around 2 years. But that is the only thing that makes me tick nowadays… I’m not worrying for the future… What’s the point? I only can make decisions based in what I have and know today.

I was born for travelling. Maybe it is not the ideal situation, I’d love to have a partner, the one I’m here to find… But I still need to get out and see the world, do exciting things and find new challenges. I’m not sacrificing anything because I don’t have anything. To lose you have to have first. If he is for me, he will be for me anyway…

If I don’t like it I can always come back. I’d always regret it if I let this oportunity go just to stay empty handed.

posted July 09, 2005 11:34 AM            

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SAGITTARIUS
So dear Archers your area for reformation and future outcome seeding is in your 9 th house of “philosophies, ethics and morals”. This includes all manner of teaching, learning, writing and generally spreading the word. Perhaps you have always been the eternal student but never admitted that you actually do have a bit of knowledge to share. Well it's authority time, and those of you who have been working to develop their field of expertise will find that you are about to come into your own. The caution for Sagittarius as usual is not to start believing that you are some big shot, and that you owe it to the world to set up a pulpit! You will be challenged to review many of your own philosophies and views during this phase, and will probably be confronted with many different types of people from many cultures with their “strong moral positions”. The message is tolerance and acceptance, and with this position you can have great impact in a non threatening way. This is also the house of foreign people and travel, but the chances are that travel during this time will be for your work, or your teaching/learning. You need to be prepared to apply yourself to get results. Publishing also applies here, so write that book and approach publishers if this is your thing.

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So I let Saturn push me in the right direction… Abroad… For work… And surprisingly enough, the period I will be there is basically while my Saturn Return lasts…

posted July 09, 2005 11:43 AM              

Sorry I havent read this whole thread but here is some more info I posted in that string. Good luck.

Saturn Transiting the Eighth House

How do you handle power? Your desire nature? Intimate relationships? What kind of obsessions and addictions do you have? What are your deep-rooted compulsions? What are your unhealthy attachments? When Saturn transits our eighth house, we feel pressure to answer these questions. Often, at the beginning of the transit, we are very sensitive to what seems like outer world pressures that force us to examine some of our deepest desires and attachments. These include our sexual relationships, our finances (especially with regards to debts and shared finances), and our need for control. Sometimes, Saturn transiting the eighth brings about sexual dysfunctions, whether we encounter these in ourselves or in our partners. We may face difficulties satisfying our libido and/or encounter problems with intimacy. These pressures are "designed" to make us more aware of our desire nature, and what exactly it is we want. Dissatisfaction and frustrations getting what we want, especially with reference to relationships with others and with our resources, often characterize the first part of the transit. How have we been using power? During this transit, we may find that previous methods of controlling our environment and the people in our lives simply are not effective any more. We may not even be aware just how we have been employing power and control to date. Another realm over which the eighth house reigns is our mortality. With Saturn here, we become much more aware of our mortality. Just as Saturn transits to our Sun or Ascendant make us more conscious of our age, Saturn transiting the eighth house often brings with it a realization that we do not live forever. Of course, we know this as a fact at the back of our minds, but Saturn reminds us. Before this transit, it is generally wise to begin organizing one's finances. If we don't, Saturn will most likely find ways to force us to do just that. On a psychological level, we face some of our fears that are of a compulsive nature—those fears that lead us to believe we need certain things in order to survive. Take a small example of a superstition. Perhaps we perform some kind of small ritual that we feel will help protect us or give us good luck. If we do it often enough, it becomes an addiction. We are afraid that if we don't do this little ritual, we will set ourselves up for bad luck. If we get rid of this superstition, we feel strong. Something as simple as a superstition or ritual for good luck can undermine us. Why? Because we are giving away our power over ourselves to this compulsive behavior! We are denying that we have power over our own lives. The same is true of any form of compulsive behavior and addiction. We attempt to control our lives through these behaviors, but what we are really doing is letting the addictions control us. Towards the end of the transit, we will have eliminated some deep-seated habits and attachments that have been keeping us back from feeling emotionally free. We emerge healthier and stronger. When we give in to compulsive behaviors, we give up self-control, and guilt undermines our lives. We are not ourselves. By attempting to control others, we give away our own power over ourselves. By the end of this transit, we will feel more emotionally healthy. We will have nixed some of our addictions, and mastered our superstitions. We will feel more powerful because we have given up attempting to control things we cannot or should not control, and we will have gained a feeling of self-mastery instead.

Saturn Transiting the Ninth House

posted July 11, 2005 03:10 PM            

It is a great piece of advice… The trouble is that I’m so confused now of where I’m going… I used to have a clear picture and I worked hard and slowly, one step at a time, to get there…

After the important Pluto transit that I’ve been through recently, everything is upside down… I’ve changed to the root and all my old values are being questioned… I don’t know where I’m heading anymore…

It feels as if my life will be over after 30. For some reason I’m kind of panicking to do everything I haven’t done yet before I get to that age… It feels as if it’ll get too late if I don’t… I have a disproportionate need of living new experiences, living, living!!! As if I had only 2 years left… 30 is a terrifying gloomy deadline… God knows I have tried so hard to get the foundations set but I haven’t managed to…

I only have 2 years left to find a man, the man I’ve been looking for… I have only 2 years to travel the world… I have only 2 years to run free… I only have 2 years to plan what I will do, to find a life project… The pressure is awful and I’m going mad… I haven’t got yet anything of what I wanted to have at this age… What the hell have I been doing over the last 28 years!!! I swear I tried… But everything went so terribly wrong…

I’ve no plan for the future… And thinking that I will be at this stage the rest of my life kills me… I need to move forward!!! But I don’t know where to go…

I recently accepted going for 2 years or so to work abroad… I don’t really know if it was out of desperation, to do something with my life… Not just wasting my 2 last years of youth doing nothing here. I need to move, to step forward just in any direction… I recently was bounced back… But I take any opportunity to jump out again…

posted July 11, 2005 04:07 PM            

You are right… If I stop overanalising, if I stop worrying… (well, I’m a Virgo… One can’t expect miracles… ). I want to believe that it will be fine… that it is the right choice… I feel so great when I don’t think of the future, when I stop remembering that I only have 2 years left…

Do you think everything will turn out fine? I always, for years, wanted this kind of job… That freedom, that challenge, keeps me alive and burning with desire (Sag Ascendant conj with Moon)… Maybe it will be fine after all and my man is right around the corner in this path I’ve chosen…

Do you believe that if something has to happen, it will?