posted January 23, 2008 04:39 PM            

The arrangement when I innitiate a deeper relationship is quite clear; If a partner wants out of a relationship, the other will not hold em back in anyway and there will be no grudges, no misdirected fallout wants, etc.

My first deep relationship was with this amazing and beautiful Leo girl. It was quite an experience and man did we manage to click on so many things. But she was anxious to settle down and I wasn't and well... She couldn't wait. Obviously its quite selfish of me to lead her on a wild goose chase on something that had a high probability of not happening and so we parted ways. She has yet to meet a great guy who would fulfill those inner desires of a nice settled life she wants but it ain't gonna be me. We are still friends BTW.

Curiously I ran our chart and well... The sysnasty is amazing Lol! And that is why I don't put much faith in sysnasty charts. I feel more deeply for my lover right now then I did for that Leo (as wonderful as she is in her way.)

posted January 23, 2008 05:09 PM            

I believe that there are other factors that you have to consider. The natal charts are important. The composite can show insights too.

There are other factors like the circumstances,the timing, and the maturity of the individuals, and even things like if you're one's type or not....some people have different tastes. Some people won't even go out with a person with another race,and some people won't even go out with a person who is the same race. Some people don't like people who smoke,drink,nor use drugs. Some people like to be with party types. Some people like good,nice guys/gals, and some people prefer the bad guys/gals. etc.

I believe that free will is the ultimate factor too.

posted January 24, 2008 07:05 PM              

eric clapton .. d.o.b. 30th march 1945
john lee hooker .. d.o.b. august 22nd 1917

'old love' .. eric clapton
( edit .. 29th jan .. file no longer on server )

'dreaming' .. john lee hooker
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unrelated but currently on the server ..

'you done me wrong' .. john lee hooker
( edit .. 29th jan .. file no longer on server )

posted January 25, 2008 10:05 AM            

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how come no men are replying??? lol

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Well nothing personal girls but you're expecting a revilation about a man's private inner thoughts and for the most part, a guy's logic indicates perfectly that if there indeed is a love that haunts them, he isn't gonna go telling everyone about it on a public message board . Its a personal thing and obviously its ment to be shared with those they know close.

posted January 25, 2008 11:02 AM            

But logically, dwelling upon regrets is counter-productive. Sure the feelings are there but revisiting them time after time does not change the fact that the compatiblity just wasn't there. So either one can let it mash you all up inside until you really can't be helpful to others who may need you in their lives or you just slap in a new pair of cowboy boots and ride off in a different direction with different adventures to come .

posted January 25, 2008 04:42 PM            

If you want to read about men haunted by love.. you could look up something like "i lost her" on google.. or "why did she leave" or.. "can't stop thinking about her" or "i was an ass.. will she ever forgive me" or "dat hoe cheated with my bro nd i still can't get ova it yo" LOL

I'm sure you'll find a few.. except no charts lol

:edit: Here you go.. I found you an obsessive one: http://www.physics.ohio-state.edu/%7Esstoneb/agony/stories/?story=009

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I'm being quite proactive about seeking therapy to put a permanent stop to this cycle of self-torture

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posted January 26, 2008 06:42 AM              

I have been haunted by girls in my past where I felt a very intense connection like a 'love at first sight' feeling. However, didnt do anything about it as I was scared of the feeling it was stirring in me with a complete stranger ! So I guess that is 'unrequited' love which may be due to having my Venus in the 12th house. These encounters haunted me at the time probably due to 'missing out' and it reminds you of what you havent got.

Also kind of karmic meetings with my Pluto aspected quite heavily in the 7th.

I have also noted that I tend to attract quite intense and destructive partners with this position. Like I was meant to try and help them but couldnt ultimately as they were 'bad apples'. But ultimately the relationship allowed me to grow and 'transform' myself when I came out the other end of it even tho it tested my soul to the core. Certainly dont have straight forward relationships but difficult ones with power struggles.

Girl who had the most impact on my life had an exact Venus square Pluto and her Mars was conjunct my Mars and activated my natal T-square Mars opposition Pluto square Moon aspects. Pheww. Looking back it was just a intense sexual attraction and she tried to destroy me. Took me many years in the aftermath to get over that and didnt bother with anyone else for a while.

So not love but just a sexual obsession. Funny thing is I found her on the internet recently and she is now living in China. So thought let sleeping dogs lie and felt a 'release' as she had no power over me anymore. The past is the past.

posted January 26, 2008 08:49 AM            

Welcome to the Dome! Mr. Venus Trine Pluto

posted January 26, 2008 02:28 PM              

for jan 2008 i've got progressed Moon just arrived in 12th house close to natal Moon ..
in dec. 1975 ..
( aprox time of n.j. happenings .. well i remember it being winter when it all started ) ..
the progressed Sun was in virtually in the same spot as progressed Moon is now .. within a degree ..

for the dec. 1975 chart .. the progressed Moon was square my Descendant ..
for a current chart .. progressed Merc is quine my Descendant ..
( thinking here along the lines of that sun/descendant astro-map line that runs thru new jersey .. )
and recently .. around the time of said 'haunting' :-) ..
transiting Saturn was trining my Descendant and sextiling my Ascendant ..

my chart between 1975 and 1977 was quite influenced by Pluto/Neptune and Uranus transits ..
Pluto squared my Ascendant .. Neptune opposed my Mars .. Uranus squared the Nodes ..
and t.Chiron was hanging about my Mc by conjunction .. t.Saturn was going thru my first house ..

that relationship occurence left a huge imprint on me ..
'n all associated memories were buried and locked away for at least ten years after ..
( talk about synchronicity .. just as i typed that last line .. a song started to play on the hi-fi
( 'dont' try to explain' by Keb Mo ..

actually that sun/descendant line runs thru Havana as well ;-)))
maybe i should emmigrate to Cuba ..

posted January 26, 2008 02:32 PM            

I have the opposition (Venus/Pluto)

posted January 28, 2008 05:43 PM              

lol. I dont think I want a Venus opposition Pluto to go with my Moon square Pluto and Mars opposition Pluto thanks !

lol. I would just be a sex maniac killing machine I think in need of therapy! Only joking. :-)It has took me a while to come to terms with these aspects. And much regeneration and much separation and much deep soul searching. Then the transformation.

I dont think any Venus/Pluto aspects are particularly easy even the easy ones. But I wouldnt swap it.

Think we are just a breed that feels life/love intensely ! Which we like.

posted January 11, 2022 05:10 AM            

I however do not believe in the idea that one can "lose" love. Because the premise there is that love is something one can "own". Can you "lose" air? But it can certainly feel "lost" when trapped inside a sealed elevator.

It is this fear of "loss" that informs the reaction that is panic. Much like someone whom has a panic attack and needs "air" even when outside.

Once they control their breathe, once they realize that they are SURROUNDED by life-giving air etc. All of that panic goes away.

The same is true of love. We are not necessarily looking for a specific individual. But what we are looking for is to FEEL love from a visceral level; adoration, appreciation, attraction, fascination, revitalization, connection etc.

The problem is when we are quick to assume that that feeling can ONLY be felt with a select few individuals. And much like the panic attack described above, we can reach a point of clutching too tightly at it and think that we will never find something like that again.

But once we increase our focus, relax our grip and realize that the love we want to feel is all around us. That it is available in abundance. That it is all in the vibration, then all is well.

We must let go of jealousy, wanting to "contain" or posses things and move towards appreciation. Because we are expanding and becoming clearer about what we are.

And so the people that we attract into our world are doing the same. That is why they come in and then go out.

Its not that you have "lost" them per se. Its just that their story in your life has an ending. And they have reached it. You are vibrating at two different levels. And there is someone available to you in your new vibration. IF YOU CHOOSE IT.

But you must first let go of the delusion that the person is "lost" to you is all you have ever had and all you will ever have. MOVE! Interrupt that pain momentum by going outside the box and interfere with your thoughts.