posted December 11, 2005 12:08 PM              

This is going to be a strange question...would a loaded Eighth house cause people to be AFRAID or overly respectful to the Eighth House person?

This has been the case my entire life. People tread carefully around me...I am often told "you look mean" or "you look angry all the time" & many other similar expresssions.

I get this reaction from males & females. Even though I have no trouble attracting females. I am not a physically imposing man. I would be considered short to medium height. I am very introverted...this could explain some I guess. But there is often outright fear..& I am normal..I don't dress like a weirdo or anything like that.

posted December 11, 2005 01:29 PM              

If anything people fear transformation and ending. I've never really heard of eighth house placements making someone scary, dark and overly serious maybe, but not scary.

posted December 11, 2005 02:55 PM              

beebuddy, the dark & over serious is very accurate.

I guess Cap rising (taurean_scorpion zeroed in on that one)..dosn't help much either. I ran that chart using the Equal House. I think it is the most accurate. For those that prefer Placidus (which I think is incorrect)..it would be Pluto & Mercury..w/the Sun entering (therefore interpreted) in the Eighth. But..w/Placidus it does give a 1st House Mars. So Mars in the 1st and Pluto in the 8th..placements.

Here's my info if interested:

posted December 11, 2005 10:09 PM              

I have moon in the 8th.

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More likely it's your first house Mars. Planets in the first house are very prominant. This has been demonstrated to me time and time again.

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posted December 11, 2005 11:37 PM              

" More likely it's your first house Mars. Planets in the first house are very prominant. This has been demonstrated to me time and time again."

I completely agree with you..but again, I don't believe in Placidus at all. Sure it gives me a first house Mars. Pluto, Sun & Mercury in the Eighth..but Placidus is all wrong in my opinion.

If a person is born in Norway, Peru or New York state...you should be able to use the same House System! Placidus doesn't work like that. The Equal House system is accurate. Many astrologers will say "use whichever system is best for you"....No!...It works or it doesn't..one House System should fit all.

I read somewhere that the Placidus system in use today is not even the Original Placidus system...sorry guys, but it's all wrong. Completely flawed. I know this is difficult for many people to accept.

Back to a first house Mars..yes, it would give an intense face..and maybe even a warlike or combative image. But...I can't accept the placements of a Placidus chart. I
refuse to lie to myself. In my opinion..my chart is rather intense using Placidus....but I won't agree to something that I know is wrong.

posted December 12, 2005 02:43 AM              

In my humble opinion 8th/Scorp Pluto stuff comes across as so intense that people find it overwhelming. I also find they think all that passion for life is for them - they wish, he he. Personally I find the magnetism part a little harder to deal with, the fear of having to tell someone you don't like them.

I used to bury all my enthusiasm for this very reason, now I say stuff it, I'm me if you don't like it go find a little church mouse to play with and if they think it's all for them I gently hint it's not.

posted December 12, 2005 03:50 PM              

If I was a career counselor (sun in the 6th) it would work.
Eventually you will find your place, don't worry so much about what other people think! That's the big problem with me, Mars Sag/1st house conjunct Neptune.

I know easier said than done:>

posted December 12, 2005 05:54 PM              

That is interesting about the remarks that people make about the both of you looking sad. An eighth house moon would have a similar energy to Moon in Scorpio...very intense emotions to say the least. Not always easy to live with. Could the sad look be a possible Pisces asc or Neptune in the 1st? Maybe even Cancer asc?

Lioneye68,

I didn't forget about you. I respect your opinion about Placidus...even though I still disagree. But to answer your question, Placidus puts Mars in the 2nd.

I have posted on more than a few Astrology forums over the years...and the communication here is outstanding. I like that alot. It's terrible when you post a topic & nobody responds..or it takes a week to get a reply. There are some great people here.

I also feel that I owe alot to Linda Goodman...it was her excellent book Sun Signs that opened my eyes to Astrology...when I first picked it up at the age of 15. I haven't stopped since.

posted December 17, 2005 11:13 AM              

I'm going to take a little bit of a different approach here and say, it may not be as important to try to understand the effect you have on others as much as it would be important for you yourself to know, what is it you WANT others to know about you ...

You really cannot make any progress regarding all this if you are motivated by fear first. Let your motivation be out of love, first and foremost.

As for other insights into your Chart's influences, go ahead and read material on Scorpio Sun's, Moon's, and Ascendant's. See if anything sort of pops out at you. Those interpretations will not be 100% relatable to you, but you may gain some insights when you look at what IS.

posted March 08, 2006 08:35 AM              

I have Sun,Neptune,Jupiter,Uranus and South Node in Eigth house all in Sagittarius and my ascendant opposes my pluto and Pluto sextiles my sun.

I don't look like the most frindliest person in the world and seem rather secretive and forbiding (well atleast thats what I am told). My Taurus ascendant opposes my Saturn and Venus and my Lilith in Pisces trines my Pluto(all being important planets in relationships) that makes personal relationships hard to form.

Yes,life is definately challenging

posted March 08, 2006 03:50 PM              

Sun trine Pluto
Moon in the 8th