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lovegoblin
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posted August 29, 2006 08:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lovegoblin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted August 29, 2006 10:02 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, from my experience my ex's Mars fell into my fourth house. He has Mars in Scorpio and I have Scorpio on the 4th cusp. Let's just say we never lived together because of his aggressive nature. He has been violent. Is it your mars into their 4th house? What sign and what's the cusp sign of your partner's?

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posted August 29, 2006 10:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lovegoblin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted August 29, 2006 10:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stargazer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi love

My Mars has fallen in my b/f's 4th house...
We never lived together though. he has the Mars natal 4th house and is an agressive person anyways. I've read that it generally works out better if it is the man's mars falling into the woman's 4th...It is generally not the best place for Mars.
From my personal experience.. I wouldn't have ever lived with that guy...regardless of where Mars was lol...total jerk....
But I never felt agressive towards him... just the opposite actually....


But anyway, here is an interesting blurb on the 4th house... of of Stephen Forrest's site:

"The Fourth House is one of the most basic—and most neglected—parts of the synastry puzzle. Most of us learn in our first astrology class that it’s the “House of the Home.” We then use it to speak of our physical dwelling places, our families of origin, and our interior psychological worlds. All that is valid, but let’s not leave out the notion that the pot of gold at the end of love’s rainbow is a stable, happy bond—a sense of “home,” created, proven, maintained, and trusted, with a beloved partner. That’s a Fourth House reality. Planets there in your own chart indicate your needs and possibly your baggage in that department. If, for example, you have Venus in the Fourth House, then the kind of home that will work for you is one permeated by a peaceful, aesthetic Venusian spirit. That puts some constraints on how satisfied you’ll be living with someone who’s got Sun conjunct Uranus in Gemini, square Mars, and five planets jumping for thermonuclear joy in Sagittarius!
If someone transposes a lot of their own planets into your Fourth House, he or she is likely to fill you with deep, comfortable feelings of “family.” There’s just an inexplicable “familiarity” there. Mutual Fourth House transpositions are common between people who go the distance with each other, and that bedrock astrological fact seems to have disappeared from the more generic synastry textbooks. Probably it’s a casualty of our pan-cultural loss of those precious psychological crown jewels—our Fourth House sense of community, kinship, and absolute commitment to each other.
One more comment: of all the relationship Houses, I’d say the Fourth is probably the most “adult.” I say that because it relates to the stage of relationship where it would be appropriate to consider bringing new life into the world. In a society where “adult” has come to mean “visible genitals,” we’ve got some collective healing to do in that department. I like to think of astrologers as leading rather than following in that great enterprise.
One final comment: a critical link in the synastry chain is the composite chart. There are a variety of ways of calculating them. The one that works best for me is based on the midpoints of the planets: halfway between my Sun and your Sun is our composite Sun, and so on. I like to use the latitude of the place where the relationship started, rather than the current residence of the couple. I’m also very open to the idea of just taking the midpoints of all the House cusps, which is another popular technique.
Composite charts are a big subject, and probably rate a separate article. Basically you interpret them in exactly the same manner as you would interpret a natal chart, except you remember that you are discussing the care and feeding of the relationship as a whole. Sometimes two introverts come together and begin throwing loud parties; sometimes two extroverts come together and move to a cabin in Alaska. These are not laws of the universe, only possibilities within the universe. The Composite chart gets at all that, helping us understand what kinds of shared experiences help keep the couple vital and alive—and that might be different from what they need as individuals."

Again, those loverly blue lines help

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posted August 29, 2006 12:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lovegoblin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted August 30, 2006 12:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for libraschoice7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why would someones planet in the 4th house(especially Mars) make for an angry placement? Since 4th has to do with home and family, I always thought having any kind of planet there made people more friendly and helpful toward one another.

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Hey Librachoice 1 -- In my opinion, because the planet Mars is action, aggression, and fiery to me it would upset the home in my case. My ex has is Mars, Uranus, and Venus in my 4th house. And he totally upsets my whole way of thinking in a sense of traditional family. Then again we have Moon opposite Mars in synastry so that may be another placement. We just totally don't get along at all. We can't even do it for the sake of our child. It's extremely tough.

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posted September 08, 2006 12:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lovegoblin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted September 08, 2006 06:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Libraschoice - I think its as simple as putting two words together domestic (4th) violence (mars) (violence in the home/privacy). But that doesn't necessarily mean DV will occur - might mean a highly energetic house.

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posted September 09, 2006 10:12 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LG - his Mars and Venus are in Scorpio. Mars in Scorpio is quick to anger, but then acts as if nothing happened. Example we got into a physical altercation and right afterwards he calls me as if nothing ever happened. No apology, no nothing.
As far what signs are aggressive I'm not sure cause I'm pretty novice at astrology. But some aspects in his chart which can show aggression are Sun conj Pl, Moon oppos Mars, there are more but I can't remember right now.

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MARS does not necessarily indicate violence any more than Neptune connotes drug and alcohol abuse. If someone's Neptune falls in your 4th house does that mean you will do drugs together at home? LOL.

MARS there might also indicate productive energy and action and activity that unfolds at home. You have to look at all the aspects associated with that Mars just as you would with a Neptune or Saturn.

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posted May 09, 2012 12:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Circe InThe Dark     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know this whole thread is old but it's bothered me for some time. Since when does Mars mean "violence"???? And if that's how we interpret it that must mean mars conjunct venus means violence against women and artists. And Mars conjunct sun natally MUST mean violent creativity or creative violence. Obviously I recipe for a born sociopath.

And I guess if your SO had his/her mars in your second house he'd be violent towards you financially. Likely he'd rob you.

Have I made my point yet? I think these kind of superficial interpretations are completely silly.

And since when is the cause of domestic violence the home? Get real, I think violence against a spouse/SO would be more likely to be shown by the 7th house than the 4th, but most likely it would be impossible to cookbook interpret from a chart.

Mars is our basic drive and lust, it's what we do when we want, how we go for it. Certainly that can lead to competition and battle, but that does not mean it will be against are SOs wherever it falls in our charts. Mars may have been the God of War, but even soldiers can be friends and comrades on the same side, not just enemies.

Someone with mars in another's fourth could be just as likely to be driven to create a home or family with that person, or to deeply explore their psyche/private self, after all home isn't just a physical place. You can have an internal homebase, psychologically where you feel most able to let your hair down. The fourth house can also be your most private, primal part of you.

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posted May 09, 2012 10:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ShyVirgo1979     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I totally second what u just said. I have mars in cancer in my 4th house and someone on here asked me if I was abusive towards my kids LOL I said no we're all a bunch of goofballs tho hehe altho I'm very protective of them I will say. Like fiercely and overly protective of them. Anybody who messes with them with deal with my wrath. As one of the neighbor kids here found out last week when he said some derogatory profanity in front of my young daughter but I understand where ur coming from and I don't believe this one aspect alone causes violence. Just wanted to put my 2 cents in

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posted May 09, 2012 10:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ShyVirgo1979     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
U know I'm sitting here thinking...mars in 4th house either in natal or synastry, could that maybe mean there's a lot of action and energy in the home? With mars being the planet of action. That describes my home. I have 3 energetic kids and my home isn't what u call peaceful not with them lol there's just a lot of energy and sometimes butting heads and things r always in motion, lots of activities but its not violent. What is ur opinion on that? I was under the impression the 4th house represented the early home environment but I'm not advanced in astrology.

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posted May 09, 2012 05:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for libraschoice77     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Come to think of it, my stepfather when I was growing up was always verbally abusive towards me. Turns out in our synastry his Mars lands in my 4th house...so there's somewhat an example of it.

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posted May 15, 2012 09:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JoJo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Natally, I have Mars in Scorpio in the fourth house and my home has always been full of energy and action. I have also been told repeatedly that my home feels welcoming, warm, and inviting in the midst of all that action. It's a place where my sons (and myself) have room to explore, make mistakes, grow, and become the best people we are capable of. There's chaos, yes, but I think that's only because it's the place where everyone wants to be. It's usually filled to the brim with my sons and their friends, and somehow I've become the surrogate mom to several of these young men (the age group of my sons and their friends is late teens-early 20's).

Summing it up, I would say Mars in the fourth is more about action, striving, and fulfilling potential. It's awesome to watch young people come into their own and grown into amazing young adults.

Chaotic? Absolutely. But I wouldn't change it for the world.

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posted May 15, 2012 09:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JoJo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted December 06, 2015 08:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for plutonian105     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mars in the 4th also means sex with your family members for example your bf or gf sleeps with your brother or sister...watch for this aspect in relationship synastry

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posted December 08, 2015 12:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted December 09, 2015 12:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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