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darkdreamer
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posted June 02, 2008 04:38 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I`ve been pondering about those long lists about asteroid-aspects, and how difficult it is to see the "whole" and basic energy with these lists.
Maybe it would make sense to look at certain "theme"-groups to get an easier overview?

Like for example:
Venus, Valentine, Amor, DC for romance / love
Moon, Ceres, IC for deep caring
node, Vertex, Karma, Destinn for karmic connections
Isis and Osiris or Kaali and Siva or Eros and Psyche for soulmates in various cultures
and maybe Eros and Kaali (and Mars) for sexual attraction?

What do you say? Would that make sense?

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posted June 02, 2008 09:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lovegoblin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That is so funny DD- I was pondering the same thing. And yes I do think it makes sense. I think that is how the energies are expressed.

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posted June 02, 2008 09:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lovegoblin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In terms of draconics-what would it mean if your north nodes conjunct exactly draconic-draconic @ 0.0.0 degress?

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posted June 02, 2008 09:34 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your draconic chart would be your natal chart.

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posted June 02, 2008 09:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lovegoblin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
so what if your draconic nn conjuncts another persons draconic nn by 0 degrees?
Would that indicate a purpose in life paths?

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posted June 02, 2008 09:55 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The draconic NN will always be 0° Aries, so this is no important connection (since it will be there in EVERY synastry).

I`m yet uncertain about the importance of other planets conjunct or oposite 0° Aries (the draconic NN and the ARies-point). Maybe this one would play a certain role, but I`m not sure about it.

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posted June 02, 2008 10:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lovegoblin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks again. i didn't know the nn would always be in aries in a draconic.

i'm trying to do a chart for a friend and someone. its fun trying to figure this out!

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As far as the DC goes, I think it could work either way. Instead of bumping another thread, I'll say it here. I think that if your descendant sign is in bad aspect to the rest of your chart, than that house becomes the house of open/hidden enemies as far as relationships go if your partners sun falls in there. And I think the exact opposite is true if your descendant sign is in good aspect to the rest of your chart; the 7th house becomes the house of partnership. But even when saying this, I think we are still drawn to the sign on the 7th whether its in good or bad aspect to the rest of your chart.

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Virgo Asc & Mars
Gemini Sun
Libra Moon (conjunct Pluto 0º in 2nd house)
Gemini Mercury
Cancer Venus

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posted June 02, 2008 12:34 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you mean that if l have uranus ruling 7th H and my partners sun is conjunct his uranus?

I'm confused

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Lara,

no, I think he meant something like this:
DSC in Gemini, but all personal planets are in Virgo and Pisces, then you still might feel the attraction to your DSC-sign, but it is a difficult placement, and can be experienced even as some sort of repulsion.

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posted June 02, 2008 01:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tigerlily     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's a list I've been compiling of asteroid themes (thanks in great part to Iqhunk and other fellow asteroid students at Lindaland):

Love, Sexual and Relationship Asteroids:

Juno - Marriage, commited and bonded relationships, legal ties and protection of rights within the relationship. Marriage and
commitment in relationships. Check synastry for connections. Transits and progressions can signify timing of marriage. Working through relationship betrayals, infidelity. Sharing power within relationships in a balanced manner.

Vesta - Devotion and dedication to beliefs, tantric sex and passion for ritual; sex as a spiritual transformation. Becoming whole within ones self. Not needing outside validation to be who you really are. Finding sacredness within and without.

Ceres - Mother, nurturing, feeding emotional and physical needs. Taking care of each other. Enhances the ability to nurture the self and others - also for those suffering from the loss of a loved one. Children who have lost a parent or other primary care giver.

103 Hera - Marriage, commited and bonded relationships, legal ties and protection of rights within the relationship. Marriage and
commitment in relationships. Check synastry for connections. Transits and progressions can signify timing of marriage.

447 Valentine - True love

1221 Amor - Love as felt idealistically and romantically. Unconditional love, how you express it.

763 Cupido - the look of love; Indicator of sexual attraction in synastry. Matchmaker, vain, romantic.

201 Penelope - represents devotion and fidelity

16 Psyche - Perseverance of love, connection of a psychic nature, awakening of intuition, soul seeking completion

433 Eros - erotic love. Represents what turns you on, sexual attraction.

1388 Aphrodite - impulsive love and attraction, love inspired by fated events, animosity turning to magnetism, charisma. Indicates attraction in synastry.

1943 Anteros - the brother of Eros, love returned or love avenged. The answer to love's longing, a place to finally meet.

2101 Adonis - spell bound love, sexual magnetism, the desire to arouse, please and fulfill the beloved. Potent tie. An attractive male. Your ideal
male. What is your Adonis by sign and house?

4450 Pan - Seductive and earthy sensuality, creative, wily, and likely to instill "panic" to produce change or contact

4386 Lust - potent sexual attraction and connection. Sexually motivated, lustful. Lascivious personality or behavior. Non-committed sex. President Clinton has Lust conjunct his ASC, as does Gene Simmons of KISS.

7328 Casanova: A promiscuous male. Seducer of women. A player, uncommitted.

875 Nymphe: An overly-sexed individual. An indicator of sexual addiction.

2063 Bacchus: Sexual orgies, groupies, highly sexual and unrestrained.

1036 Ganymede - An indicator of same sex attraction between men. Ganymede was the lover of Zeus.

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Muses and creativity asteroids:

Pallas - Rules wisdom and artistic abilities. It helps the Pineal Gland. Wisdom, strategy, knowing what action to take and when. Being a warrior of principles and peace.

1862 Apollo - God of music. Also the god of Prophecy and oracle.

2340 Hathor - Goddess of music.

600 Musa helps in the arts.

57 Mnemosyne - many musical people have this featured prominently

27 Euterpe - Muse of music

22 Kalliope - the "fair-voiced" first born of the muses

33 Polyhymnia - name means "many hymns" - muse of sacred poetry

18 Melpomene - name means "the songstress" - muse of tragedy

80 Sappho - Goddess of poetry and lyrics. Can be an indicator of same sex attraction or affinity, especially in a woman’s chart.

62 Erato - Muse of poetry, particularly love poetry

81 Terpsichore - Muse of dance

23 Thalia - Muse of comedy and idyllic poetry

14827 Hypnos - god of sleep and dreams. Indicates where/how you are hypnotic and/or dreamy.

30 Urania - The muse of astrology
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Medical Asteroids:

1862 Apollo - God of healing, teacher to Chiron and Father of Asklepios.

1027 Aescualpia (Asklepios or Askalaphus) - God of healing. Taught by Chiron; can indicate a healer as well as timing for medical attention.

10 Hygeia - Goddess of health and hygiene. Refers to cleanliness and health efforts, well being.

2878 Panacea - Goddess of cures. The “cure-all,” remedies. All types of cures, from conventional to alternative.

3063 Makhaon - Son of Asklepius, he is associated with surgery; can indicate timing of surgery by transit or progression.

4086 Podalerios - Son of Asklepius; associated with the healing of invisible wounds, the healing of the soul and of the mind/body.

5239 Reiki: Represents energy healing, healing with chakras, and psychic healing.

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Centaurs:

Chiron:
Transition through awareness. Bringing shadow to the light. Standing out, not fitting any known category, doing things one's own way, and solving the problem oneself. The gift of responding to life's challenges, injuries, difficulties and moments of change through gradually focusing awareness, growth and learning.

Powerful healing energy, overcoming disabilities and set backs. Developing great compassion for self and others. Seeking knowledge and truth, wisdom and teachings. Relates to those dedicated to the healing fields.

* A common consense appears to be that Chiron is connected with topics like wounding, illness, healing, shamanism and holism. To my understanding Chiron seems especially connected to turning points in life through the experience of illness, pain, accidents and woundings of any kind, be it physical or psychological. During this events and crises Chiron appears to "investigate" or even "x-ray" our soul and personality to reveal its basic structure with all its deficiencies. Often this marks the beginning of a transformation process, where we cannot get rid of the fatigue but can learn to live with it and develop a higher level of consciousness. In contrary to Saturn, which normally is more connected with patient enduring of "fortune" and "fate" and with the tenacious working towards healing, Chiron tries to give us more inner freedom and understanding for our suffering with the help of a new consciousness and worldview. Chironic therapies are more directed to find the "inner key" for the healing process, which finally helps us to understand the deeper meaning and psychological roots of the painful symptoms and which also help us to rid ourselves from frustration, which often accompanies crises and illnesses. With this we gain an inner relief and relaxation, which accelerates the healing process without deny (which is often the case with Uranus) or fatalistic resignation and depression (Saturn).

* Chironic humour: tendency to sarkasm (first pointed out by the German astrologer Hans-Jürgen Walter in an article about Monty Python). Opens us for the curiosities, unusual point of views, hidden truths and new horizons and dimensions, which are often very paradox and hard to understand for our intellect and ratio by the way. Chiron appears to give us a new level of awareness above earthly and material matters. So it prepares us in some way for Uranus and the outer trans-Saturnian realm in common. Chiron gives us the first glimpse what could be beyond the Saturnian boundaries although we feel often perplexed and disturbed, sometimes also amused.

* Some problematic Chiron: resignated indifference, apathy, agony, emptiness, absence of any humour. Liz Greene's experience is that Chiron is often connected with bitterness: we feel responsible for things we cannot be responsible, similar to the endless world-weariness of Pisces.

* Chiron opens us a door or floodgate through which uncontrollable energies, emotions, invades and overwhelm us (also in synastry, Zane Stein wrote about it)

* Chironic transformations: to find a balance between physical vulnerability and the independence and superiority of the spiritual higher self.

* Confrontation with paradoxes: the "Koan"-effect. Chiron is referring to trans-Saturnian realms, which are confusing us. For example: the effect of synchronicity (as C.G. Jung described so profoundly) of different levels and times (e.g. relativity theory). Time is just another dimension, nothing absolute, like it is for Saturn. A different but also important topic is Chiros versus Chronos.

* Two sides of the same coin: the healing arts and the arts of war. Everything, which can heal can also kill, it just depends on the dosis, so again we have a connection to the balance-theme (Libra).

* Chiron as a teacher: real and deep mediation of knowledge and experience is only possible from person to person, like a Kabbala, in an intimate and loving relationship between teacher and pupil. The chironic relationship is initiating us into something. It is located exactly in the middle between respect, authority, tradition, high esteem (Saturn) and parity, openess, equality, unconventionality (Uranus) and is often vulnerable and fragile. Real learning is to gain a new consciousness in the moment when we are touched and when something resonates in us.
Music, culture and the arts: healing is often possible only through creative doing, for example in the arts, painting therapy, music therapy ... To free oneself from reality's boundaries through unusual angles, to find access to hidden dimensions and deeper knowledge. The arts on the other hand often give us a feeling for the eternity and holistic point of view of mankind, nature and life.

* To encounter and meet people who are key person for our life, but still can be difficult and imperfect personalities.

* There is a question as to whether Chiron has a deeper connection to Libra: the balance theme and to be in the domicile there, where Saturn is only in its exaltation, Capricorn, which is the domicile of Saturn, has a square to Libra, which could reflect the problematic relationship between the mythological Chiron and its father, Chronos.

* Darrelyn Gunzburg: "... The Chironic person has a hard time letting go of old beliefs and, hence, may try to reason away grief.
This griefs needs the help of another to be healed."


Pholus:

The ending of an old life and the beginning of a new, higher life.

Catalyst. Absolute divine potential. Visionary.

Small cause, big effect. Pholus has the property of release from situations, opening to possibilities, and emerging into new states of existence. It is the Centaur of fast-moving changes, or rapid transformations, typically initiated by one's own action, minor though it may seem. Catalyst. A person with a prominent natal Pholus is in his actions guided by impulses whose motivation he is not really aware of. Actually, he is confronted with energies or parts of his nature that are not incarnated, i.e. that hang over life. They hang over or about him like a cloud (Neptune, the aphelion of Pholus) and urge towards incarnation (Saturn, Pholus´ perihelion) within the material world. In other words: Pholus stands for parts of our nature from which we are still cut off and with which we try to get into contact. The parts in question may be those which cannot be soundly unfolded, or on the other hand a domain where the person intently strives for and with time even reaches great progresses. Pholic impulses are blind in a sense. They press on being realized even if they do not "know", what could be their appropriate place in the actual order of life. On the contrary, they are in conflict with the established conditions. The person in question may feel impelled to actions, motions or gestures that give rise to disastrous life situations. So, Pholus finds himself in a strain between self-destruction and enlargement of his own character by additional energies or horizons of experience. The pholic person walks on the narrow path of great and seemingly easy success, with the risk of catastrophic slips. Whatever happens, afterwards the person is altered. He has broken with his past, has stripped off an old skin, has got over a rocky edge and unexpectedly attained a wonderful tableland, or else is stumbled over it into a precipice.

Pholus in the natal chart is indicative of issues relating to both Saturn and Neptune, i.e. feelings, emotions, sacrifice, dreams, chaos, all Neptunian stuff and the Saturnine influence of order, duty, restriction and control. In aspect to a natal planet Pholus could indicate something we’re not yet fully aware of, something that is waiting to manifest. Perhaps something from our past is restraining us, is keeping it under control. It may become a pressing issue that we blindly and impulsively act upon only to find it has disastrous results. On the other hand, it may lead us to achieve great things. Pholus also has a mediumistic quality, a connection to ‘the other world’ and the ability to get in touch with it.
Aspects from Pholus indicate matters (as identified by the aspected planets) from which the consciousness remains disconnected, although there is potential for such a connection being developed. Impulses governed by the aspected planets may therefore be blind, hasty and disastrous in outcome. But with regard to more intangible realms, Pholus confers a visionary and mediumistic capability.

* During transits: a blizard-like surprising "kick" or decision, a spontaneous urge for a fast and radical transformation of oneself often accompanied with euphoria and blind venturesomeness.

* Spontanous and in most cases an easy "shaping of skin" and transformation/change and completely ignoration of any risks.

* To eliminate and to make permeable limits and boundaries in an Uranian style so that alien energies can penetrate them, we experience these alien energies often as "chaotic" and unordered.

* To be cast or to be catapult through the "door" into absolute newland and new dimensions, in which you often feel overtaxed and there is no return to the previous state so you have to develop new abilities and cope with the new situation.
the sudden, unpredictable dissolver and bringer of chaos

* the vabanque-player

* to bring something into flow with the help of an initial ignition, to initiate a chain reaction

* "small cause, big effect"

* the catalyst

* a faux pax or mishap, which causes a chain reaction of tragic events

* the comic of a misfortune even if it's tragic

* the bone of contention or the stumbling-stone

* disturbations or detours turn out to be important tasks and lessons and bring you totally new perspective and point of view/awareness (in Greek mythology this is called a parergon, a sideway-story)

* genius and madness are close together with a strong Pholus in the chart

* the catalyst and provider for a landslide-like change (in history for example) and turning points.

* Pholus exaggerates energies in their raw state, Pholus is an amplifier, especially during transits when he passes his perihelion

* vague precognitions, which later turn out to be true, but were too unclear to grasp them clearly before, but there is always a tension

* slip of tongues, accidents due to mishaps, which are often funny (for others) besides of their tragic

* the danger of self-sabotage because the unconsciousness often takes over control

* transits: confrontation with deficits, undeveloped/un-incarnated energies, to feel spured on something or driven to do something although the reason is not clear, a tendency to self-punishment

* Darrelyn Gunzburg: "In dealing with grief when Pholus is strong in a chart, there are always two options: blindness to the issue or visionary power; naivety and deception or access to sacred imaginal knowledge."


7066 Nessus:
The awareness of our vulnerability against darkness, abuse, and emotional death. The return of karma; situations that travel circular paths, or extend with unforeseen consequences. Conspiracy with a point of origin. The healing of abuse, including insidious kind that doesn't seem like much, until one looks closely; and the kind that was obviously so, but potentially overlooked. Nessus talks about abuse patterns in the family of origin, and how they manifest psychologically in adults.

* A connection with strong and powerful emotions, affects, passions and jealousy reveal a relation between Nessus and Pluto

* Nessus is probably the strongest Centaur among the first three, and often a "nasty" guy

* the feeling to do something "rightous" even if it's cruel (assassins or intruders often think so) and in the worst case an absolute unhuman, blind fanatism

* to be forced to deep and sudden (this is non-Plutonian!) transformation by intense and sudden shock and pain

* the boomerang-effect: bad actions done in the past, catch us up (some karma-circle)

* a clear tendency to over-react, to crack up, to have hysterics, to run amok, to explode emotionally, because someone hits/hurts you at the very nerve. For a moment you feel hot and not like yourself.

* Panic attacks (as a result of anxiety against deep affects)

* the theme-complex of intrigue and conspiracy: treachery, trick, to take advantage of other's weakness. Revenge, lie and falsehood

* Nessus joins us with occult primordial forces and energies, which go far beyond our mental, conscious and intellectual capacity for understanding. Therefore we first experience fear until we understand it later.

* the border(-line) to madness. See for example movies like "Mad Max", "Lethal Weapon", "Die Hard", where brute force in combination to super-natural self-control with madness is shown (there is also a relation to Asbolus I think).

* to overcome anxiety and force with the mean of nearly super-natural will, strength and braveness

* there seem to be some relation between Nessus and longterm skin deseases: nettle rash, strong itching, pain, burning of the skin, high sensitivity against sunrays, pustules, growth (often connected with troubles in relationships) and allergies

* Nessus opens us the gate into Hades, the death and Pluto's underworld, towards the shadow-world of ghosts and lost souls.
But it also reveals the other, light and good side of the so-called "evil". It's only a denied and repressed, undissolved, "dark" shadow-like energy of the soul, which needs to be re-integrated into our personality to be complete and healthy/authentic (this shows us the closeness of Nessus to Pluto).

* There is an obvious parallel between Nessus and the fairy man Charon. Therefore I think Nessus is a leader and guide to hidden and deep energies of regeneration and rebirth and therefore Pluto's helper or preparer in this way and process.

* Nessus in a chart brings up old issues of grief and loss thought to be buried long ago,
which erupt in a monstrous or poisonous way... Nessus is the pitchblack face of Pluto made manifest through Saturn. The final outcome is gaining immortality."

8405 Asbolus:

Intuition, protection, gift of psychic sight.

Asbolus was a seer. Asbolus indicates development of and use of full intuitive faculties. It talks about how we handle extremes of adversity and danger as children. Survival and the recognition of having survived. Deep contact with something organic and essential -- the ability to endure and even thrive despite it all. Protection from victimhood. The blessing of protection even when it seems like none is there.
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Eris:

Competition. Discord. Striving.
Eris creates a disrupting commotion, but which leads to a new clarity of understanding with a new order to follow--sort of shaking up what is stagnant in consciousness which subsequently allows a greater clarity to emerge and a reorganization or new expression of what we are doing in our lives.

Quaoar:

The Creator God, the Absolute which bursts forth a rush of manifestation which is to be ordered into a coherent material plane.

While as incarnate humans none of us is God, we do have our inner connection to Source, and it is Quaoar which points us to that connection and asks us what we wish to do with it. We each, ultimately, are here for the purpose of dharma, that is finding our right path. That means shedding our karma (ie, since karma is just an unlearned lesson, this requires learning our lessons, as in cheerfully not repeating our mistakes) so that the karma no longer impedes our real reason for being here.

Quaoar is that glorious metaphysical point/process wherein the All creates chaos for the purpose of shaping it into material form. Quaoar is where we have the potential to take that Cosmic chaos and bring it into form.

Naturally, this presents some interesting free choice for us. In shaping this chaos into form, will it be my will or Thy Will which guides the shaping process? Ah, yes, once again we are back to all the old ego issues here. Quaoar, like all the transpersonal planets (Chiron, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto), isn't likely to work well at all if the ego's will tries to control the process of shaping divine manifestation.

Like the other outer planets, it will take us time to understand the personal growth process required so that we might shed our ego-based attempts to hijack Cosmic Intention and yield (or surrender) to the Higher Will which Quaoar will no doubt require. Then we may see that The All manifests through us rather than from us, and we might be at peace with that.

Anyone involved in the creative arts, for example knows that creativity involves going into a timeless state and allowing the inspiration to "spring forth". It can't be forced, and for the truly creative, it cannot be denied, either. For instance, I once remember an English professor in university telling our class in one simple sentence why it is novelists write their books: "They have to."

So where does that inspiration "spring forth" from? A cosmic point of chaos, for chaos is creative. Chaos is creativity. There cannot be creativity without chaos. Quaoar rules that. Scientists tell us that the Big Bang, which created our universe some 15 billion years ago, started as singular point of cosmic chaos. And out of that extraordinary singularity of chaos, viola! A very nice little universe, thank you very much. Chaos is the divine precondition to creativity.

Like the other outer planets, Quaoar will be definable at a personal level by its house position in the natal chart. Since each of the 12 houses represents a different range of human activity, there will be distinct differences (in some case vast differences) in where individuals bring forth this new energy depending on the house position. I expect that the astrological interpretation of Quaoar will show where (house position) and how (aspects to Quaoar) chaos, as a sacred energy, may be grounded into physical manifestation by and for an individual. That's best option.

Worst option will be to show where and how ego can bungle chaos and snarl an individual up in one collosal mess (think soap opera, for openers). Look for squares and oppositions to be warning flags for misusing the Quaoar energy. Individual levels of spiritual evolution will be key to understanding whether a person will use this energy for better or for worse.

Because Quaoar represents a high vibration, higher even than Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto. Given the exactness of the circular orbit, a form of mathmatical perfection even the astronomers have commented upon, in the astrological chart I would expect there to be a commensurate drive to make the resultant manifestation congruent to that same high perfect vibrational level, in other words a seeking to make the manifestation as pure as the energy which motivated it. Again that would be how the spiritual seeker might use the energy. By contrast, a dense energy type would try to take the energy and mould it into the will of the ego, which of course is a recipe for various sorts of disaster.

By transit, the astrological interpretation of Quaoar likely will be another "Big Picture" planet in that because Quaoar's transits are often take as much as two years rather than a few months, it will point to times when an individual makes those major (and sometimes challenging) adjustments in life direction which entail leaving behind the desires of the ego and moving forward in touch with a desire to manifest Higher Will.

This could involve chaos manifesting in a person's life. The intervention of chaos into a person's life during those transits, rather than being a curse, may come to be realized as the most compelling opportunities in a lifetime to seize upon one's Higher Destiny and dharma, assuming the ego is prepared to allow that to happen. Failure of the ego to let go could present very difficult times when the chaos strikes.

Yet this is not the chaos of Uranus transits, which often enough tips over apple carts and rudely rubs one's nose in obsolete ways of doing things. Where Uranus by transit grabs an individual by the scruff of the neck to shake the ego-based karma out of person, Quaoar is without karma. It is the Absolute, and the Absolute is beyond karma. Quaoar will introduce change not to rock the boat, but to offer the new path.

If there is upheaval with a Quaoar transit, I would expect it to be less in the earthquake category (Uranus) and more in the "darn-this-is-a-mess-and-I'm-going-clean-it-up-once-and-for-all category", or in the "I've-never-done-this-but-I-have-to-do-this" category.

Sedna:

Deep unconcious pain. Wounds from abuse, anger and betrayal. When victimization moves to the goddess-level as it does with Sedna, (it) signals us that there's an extra depth of compassion for the abused. It also tells us that this goddess-archetype has the wherewithal to make a difference and empower that person whose (planets) are resonating with Sedna’s sphere of power.
Sedna may come to represent an extreme terrain of the unconscious, one where issues of power, authority and respect for life do not separate from a respect for oneself. The Inuit are animistic, seeing divinity in all things. Sedna may ask us to account for previously unconsidered forms of negligence towards ourselves and our living planet.

The encounter with what has been lost, drowned out, or frozen long ago, which can be taken most fruitfully on the inner levels. In other words, our own 'Ice Age': the wounds in the soul caused by the impatience, condemnation, dismissal or anger of the father; the living hell of unresolved outrage; the violence of hardship where we cut off from what is desperate and vulnerable in ourselves or others in order to survive. And how this harshness is internalized.

"Even in the face of unrelenting trauma and suffering, we can, indeed must, beat our drum and sing to life. This is not a plea for escapism, but rather an acknowledgement that the Work is about keeping our heart open in hell. Sedna's story is about acknowledging just how bad things really feel, and starting from there. Radical acceptance is demanded. Allowing love and harmony into our lives may mean opening to the frozen places inside where we are conflicted and feel unloving. To try and manufacture joy is to metaphorically cut off our own fingers."


20000 Varuna:

Vast power, immortality through fame, noteriety.

Supreme cosmic deity; god of natural and moral law; ancient sky god. Vedic deity of vast power, particularly the waters. Noteriety and immortality in the sense of renown; immortality through fame. The Great equalizer. Impersonal laws of nature (as opposed to human nature) and the incomprehensible cosmic order (as opposed to the order of society).

Positive - sovereign, competent, regulating without force, mastery of all tasks accepted.

Negative - incompetent and blaming, laments losses, holds resentment.

Mundane - appointments or elected positions, delegation of authority, promotions, demotions, court martial, public humiliation.

Ceremonial - ceremonies to confirm positions, spiritual coronations, “induced” journeys as in shamanically led vision quests.


Orcus:

Mythological Orcus, being similar to the Greek underworld god Hyades, would seem to have a Pluto like character; and in addition, being associated with water. The Roman Orcus is said to be the god of oaths and the punisher of perjurers, apparently an extremist, being either terribly harsh or extremely gentle. I tend to take "punisher of perjurers" as referring to those who are not living or honoring their soul oaths--in essence living a lie. Orcus is a revealer, challenging or coercing us to get in touch with our deeper soul essence and purpose.

"Orcus is working with the theme of exploration, of uncovering a blueprint or map that leads to a new picture, a new reality; to emerge from the belief structures and constructs of mind that are merely based upon the convenience of our collective consensus. In doing so, Orcus may force us to confront the fear and loneliness encountered when leaving the apparent safety of our past consensus of reality. Orcus may be helping us to uncover secret paths obscured by the sands of time, perhaps even oaths we made long ago to enter into the depths of unexplored territory, into new realms of consciousness, that lead us to a new law of life - eventually to a law or orientation that is in integrity to Heart. Orcus, although Pluto like, seems to express a quiet profundity, almost unnoticed as it serves us to get in touch with our deeper soul essence and purpose - the oath of the soul"

Orcus can symbolize "a person of one's word, who challenges broken promises, is aligned with a spiritual creed, and is accountable for personal thought, word and deed." On the more difficult side, he suggests, "hypocritical, fault finding in the ways of others, blame assigning, ducks responsibility for word and actions, unable to keep promises."

Francesco Sciavinotto suggests that this planet is involved in the fight for survival. I would add that there is a feeling of the ethics that one would apply or adopt when faced with such a fight, and the psychological and emotional steps toward getting there.


Ixion:

Ixion embodies themes of the inner struggle between the tamed and civilized vs. the wild and natural. Ixion may bring to surface issues and experiences reflecting this inner conflict - to do that which is considered civilized (dictated by man's laws) or that which is more natural to the wild and free (renegade). In either case the paradox may arise for the civilized patriarch, now quite at odds with the wilder natural world, to take responsibility for doing that which is natural (whether for good or bad) especially when matters of fatality are involved.

Ixion brings the theme of dark, abusive and most of all unrepentant behavior. It is the 'unredeemable' aspect of human nature and 'that which we are all capable of'.

26 Proserprina:

Wife of Pluto. Deity of life, death, and rebirth.

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Spiritual theme asteroids:

3811 KARMA

1488 AURA

5239 REIKI (relates to chi and the chakras)

37452 SPIRIT

3402 WISDOM

11911 ANGEL

9770 DISCOVERY

5264 TELEPHUS (relates to telepathy)

1198 ATLANTIS

33154 TALENT

227 PHILOSOPHIA

8990 COMPASSION

8991 MAGNANIMITY

8992 SOLIDARITY

2791 PARADISE

5451 PLATO

2878 PANACEA

4955 GOLD

5325 SILVER

3235 MELCHIOR (one of three Magi)

52301 QUMRAN (ancient settlement where the Dead sea Scrolls were found)

151 ABUNDANTIA (abundance)

390 ALMA (means "soul" in Spanish)

273 ATROPOS: Facing death whether it be of a relationship, business or personal endeavor, or an actual physical death. Changing inflexibility to flexibility. Letting go and accepting the destiny of the soul.

7 IRIS: Relates to messages or omens.

97 KLOTHO: Insuring that your true destiny is fulfilled. Weaving together all the elements that make up the higher fabric of your life.

120 LACHESIS: Relates to those who like to play the lotteries or other games of chance. Increases one's luck by clarifying where one can expect to be lucky , focusing on those areas.


307 NIKE: Relates to the speeding up of events; moving through difficult life passages with speed and grace.

1130 SKULD: The determination of one's fate through actions and awareness in the present, thus creating the future.
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Egyptian theme asteroids:

42 ISIS - The spiritual Mother, cleanse, transformation, alchemy of soul. The mate of Osiris.

Picking up the pieces and breathing new life into situations torn by deceit or trauma. Knowing when and how to release that whose time has come.

1923 OSIRIS - The spiritual Father, court, retribution, alchemy of spirit. Helps in awakening to past life heroism and past life true love.

896 SPHINX - Secretly guarded knowledge. Sphinx is the guardian of the Pyramids or the keeper of the secrets.

5011 PTAH - God of Craftsmen, Rebirth and Creation.

287 NEPHTHYS - Protective Goddess of the dead.

1912 ANUBIS - Shamanism, dialogue to spirits and with forces of nature. The Messenger, dialogue with spirits, with forces of a nature, healing, guard between the worlds. Helps in awareness of soul journeys/sensing spirits.

Traveling through the labyrinth of the soul. Coming face to face with Universal powers.

5381 SEKHMET - Helps Egyptian Neuro Magick and represents the Egyptian goddess principle of spiritual transformation.

5249 GIZA - Represents where in our chart we can access the most ancient storehouse of wisdom. It also represents our
specific initial attitude to the pyramids of Giza in this lifeline.

1813 IMHOTEP - is the Egyptian principle ruling architectural creativity.

1924 HORUS

4848 TUTENCHAMUN
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Tantric/Kundalini:

1170 SIVA - Helps in Kundalini Yoga/awareness of rebirths

4227 KAALI - Goddess representing Kundalini; Power and Energy. Helps Kundalini Currents

2847 PARVATI - Power, Energy, and Enlightenment. The female energy is typically referred to the kinetic energy and resides in the root chakra at the tip of the spinal chord.

2415 GANESA - Rules the Root Chakra of instinctive creativity.

2815 SOMA - Soma Skanda is the result of the union of these two potent opposite forces giving rebirth to the aspirant as an evolved being. This is best described in mythology as the union of Shiva and Parvati resulting in the birth of Soma Skanda and hence results in immortality.

4106 NADA - Divine Music. The subjective direction of will by knowledge to the desired end. Nada is the mystic sounds of the Eternal, of which the highest is the transcendent or Soundless Sound, Paranada, the first vibration from which creation emanates. This vibration is called nada or nadam, cosmic music. Plato called it the "music of the spheres", the music of Nature. It is known as OM. It is the voice of silence. OM is the eternal name of the Absolute conciousness, I-AM.
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Anglo Saxon theme asteroids:

9500 CAMELOT

2598 MERLIN - Relates to the seeking of magic and mystery. Helps attune one to the wisdom and power of the ancient Magicians and Alchemists.

2597 ARTHUR - Healing the inner King. In doing so, one's inner "kingdom" returns to a state of peace and plenty.

2483 GUINEVERE

2041 LANCELOT

2082 GALAHAD

2095 PARSIFAL

2054 GAWAIN

1966 TRISTAN

29391 KNIGHT

9499 EXCALIBUR (divine quest; divine power and protection)

(Esoteric Interpretation of Camelot Legends

Lancelot - Incarnate of OSIRIS + HORUS
(soul essence mix or legend mix,
take it as you please)

Arthur - OSIRIS + SET

Guinevere - ISIS Incarnate 1

Elain - NEPHTHYS

Galahad - ANUBIS who evolves to HORUS
in the grail quest.

Lady of the Lake - ISIS Incarnate 2
Merlin - THOTH
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Sumerian theme asteroids:

1970 SUMERIA

1812 GILGAMESH

3497 INNANEN

7088 ISHTAR
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Psychic , Witchcraft and Magick Asteroids:

1181 Lilith

100 Hekate - An oracle prophetess who spoke to those on the other side, and relayed the messages (a medium). Indicator of mediumistic abilities.

16 Psyche - means soul; telepathic and clairaudient abilities.

4341 Poseidon - Similar to Neptune, psychic phenomena.

432 Pythia - priestess of the Delphic oracle. Relates to those who interpret; dreams, Tarot cards, runes, tea leaves etc.

894 Erda - Seer; knowing the orgin and outcome of everything. (Sylvia Browne has this conjunct Uranus.)

3361 Orpheus

256 Walpurga

19521 Chaos
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Viking theme asteroids:

3989 ODIN

4862 LOKE

2155 WODAN

1260 WALHALLA

1309 HYPERBOREA
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Astrology theme asteroids:

8958 Stargazer - One who gazes at the stars, astrology and astronomy

24626 Astrowizard - Self explanetory

1154 Astronomia - Relates to astrology and astronomy. Said to be an indication of being an astrologer in a past life

6465 Zvedotchet - Russian for astrologer.

30 Urania - The muse of astrology

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The Eight TransNeptunian “Planets” of the Uranian System:

CUPIDO: Getting together. All groups: family, marriage, society, partnerships, organizations, corporations, collections. Art ... Cupido is a Super-Venus. The glyph is a combination of Venus and Jupiter, so where Venus means beauty, Cupido means art. Where Venus means love, Cupido means marriage. This is the planet of Togetherness.

Redefining partnerships such as marriage. Helps to create a sense of harmony when working in large groups or organizations. Relates to reestablishing family relationships that have been fractured.

HADES: All that is unpleasant, useless, antique, or deeply buried. The occult ... Hades is misunderstood, because many think only of the negative meanings: dirt, garbage, sewage, sickness, poverty, mistakes, and all things ugly and sinister. There is a positive side that deals with antiquity, depth, and past lives.

Cleaning up karma, tapping into past life talents and experiences. Relates to those involved in step parent/child relationships.

ZEUS: Controlled, directed energy. Machines; creativity; leadership. All things military. Combustion engines. Compulsion. Drive ... Zeus is like a loaded gun that is aimed. Even the glyph looks like a rocket. It signifies well planned efforts.

Relates to learning to channel one's anger into positive expressions. Becoming a voice of principle without becoming dogmatic or holier than thou. Getting in touch with one's inner truth. Relates to speakers, lecturers, etc.

KRONOS: Superiority: the highest quality attainable; the ultimate in authority; standard of excellence; undisputed expert ... Zeus and Kronos traveled in very close square from 1900 to about 1970. All natal horoscopes from 1900 to 1950 have these two planets together on the dial. These two together speak of energetic, creative activity of the highest quality. Unfortunately, they also speak of warfare, armament, and military commanders. The world experienced both sides of this combination.

Reaching one's highest potential. Becoming one's highest authority. Learning to work within structures.

APOLLON: The multiplier: expansion and spreading; growth and increase. Science, commerce, trade, industry, peaceful efforts ... The glyph is a combination of Jupiter and Gemini, and Apollon is truly a Super-Duper-Jupiter.

Relates to those seeking to reach the highest pinnacles of success.

ADMETOS: The brick wall: steadfast, stable, immovable. Shrinking. Narrowing down to a sharp focus. Specialization. Endurance ... The glyph for Admetos shows an affinity for the sign Taurus and must be drawn with a base line to show the Admetos capacity to be steadfast, stable, and immovable. Admetos describes inertia, slow motion, and things that go around in a circle like phonograph records and ceiling fans.

Relates to musicians or anyone involved in an endeavor that requires repetition and frequent practice. Also for terminating circumstances that go round and round with no escape evident.

VULCANUS: All that is mighty and powerful. Strength. Intensity... If a sentence has the word mighty or powerful in it, the Planetary signature will have Vulcanus in it. If the Sun and Vulcanus are together, the vitality, strength, and muscular power describe outstanding good health.

Finding great strength from within. The ability to overcome limitation through sheer determination and drive. Relates to focusing on the matter at hand and working it through.

POSEIDON: Spirituality, truth, ideation, enlightenment, illumination. Wisdom and culture ... Poseidon has an affinity for Pisces and its glyph looks like a sideways version of Pisces. Poseidon is Super-Neptune without a negative side.

Embracing and living the highest expressions of spirituality. Relates to being involved in the Arts; enhances inspiration and creativity.

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Tigerlily,

WOW, what a treasure box!

BTW I just read an article about Sappho and the author stated that Sappho means "biological purely physical sexual attraction". But it doesn`t seem to fit her poetic and inspired style.

What do you think about Sappho?
Does she relate to sexual attraction? And if so, in what way?


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I've also read that Sappho can indicate female same-sex attraction/ lesbian tendencies. As with all planets, angles, asteroids, etc. Sappho can mean a number of things.

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WOWEEE Tigerlily
you star!

Thank you

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I didn't know MC was important in love
synastry!!!

What's the difference between

Psyche oppose AC / conjunct DC
and
Psyche oppose MC /conjunct IC

in synastry?

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posted June 03, 2008 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoLove     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AMAZING Tigerlily, thank you

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aaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgggggghhhhhhhhh

ok i have always been doubtful becoz we didnt have a single venus pluto aspect inspite of being twin flames/souls ...

now i checked the above trans nep stuff...

look at this... all ZERO degree aspects...

his Hades ( works like pluto as per Jeff Green ) conjunct my Valetine.
my Hades trine his Venus and valentine
his cupido ( super venus ) conjunct my Pluto
my cupido opposed his Hades

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posted June 18, 2008 01:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tigerlily     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
bump.

I feel the info I gathered here from Lindaland and also from many, many hours of researching the net is a pretty comprehensive list of most major and influential asteroids and their meanings.

Everyone please feel free to add to the list or fill in the blanks. We are blessed to have the opportunity to be pioneers in the study of asteroids and their potential meanings.

I'd love it if we could all work together and study these asteroids by looking at our own charts and at case studies (i.e the charts of friends and loved ones, the charts of famous people). Check the asteroids in your natal chart, in your synastry charts, in composite charts, in transit charts and progression charts, etc. and let's see what we come up with.

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Does it matter what type of aspects these asteroids make in synastry? For instance, even if the aspects are tight (o to 1 orb) are squares and/or opposition bad, and only conjunctions and trines are good?

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The nature of each aspect depends on the people involved - how evolved they are, what kind of attitude they have, their character, etc.

A square can be marvelous for activating huge growth. It can also be challenging. It is often both. Squares add "sizzle" and spice in synastry. Without them sexual attraction would probably be non-existant.

An opposition is all about finding the balance, the yin and the yang. From personal experience, I find oppostions to be very positive once balance is found.

Conjunctions intensify, magnify, unify...whether it's in a positive way or a challenging way depends on those involved.

Trines are harmonious but can lead to complacency and even laziness - taking each other for granted. They don't "sizzle" and activate like a square or an opposition. They don't have the magnetism or intensity of a conjunction. In fact if there aren't enough "spicy" aspects, trines can often indicate friendship more than romantic relationships.

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Tigerlily, very well put.

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