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Kat
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posted December 10, 2005 05:23 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is there anyone else out ther that thinks the description of a Cancerian is inaccurate?
I just don't see myself as a homebody/ family type.

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Swerve
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posted December 10, 2005 05:59 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I should have a hard-on for Cancers right now really with my experiences - but I don't.

They are the babies of the water signs and are as completely nonplussed about their sensitivity as an air sign, but it is undeniably there.

I don't go with stereo-types myself, even with astrology. But I DO believe that they are overwhelmed by their own magnificance.

Like a door opened to another world that is so rich with emotion and feeling that they try to rationalise it like their previous sign, Gemini, would. But this doesn't do the trick.

Then they are faced with a totally scary reality of real deep feeling and awareness that overloads them and invades everything they thought was already solid and determined.

This is why they are so scared.

I believe Cancers need a water sign parent more than anyone.

Otherwise they have to initiate themselves with a deeper understanding of reality (or imagination) that no-one around them seems to have the manual to operate.

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MoonDuchess88
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posted December 10, 2005 06:57 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a watersign parent....another cancer. That's why I love my virgo mother...she's so grounded. I've got lots of respect for her. My father was (and still is) so concerned with his own insecurities that he created mine in the process. He is the epitome of a cancer though. I'm better than him at keeping my sh*t together because of my cappy rising (and maybe my virgo moon-though it's in the 8th house). Unlike the typical cancer description I don't wear my emotions on my sleeve. I've noticed that bothers some ppl like my guy (scorp/pisces) cause sometimes he thinks I'm being indifferent when that's just not the case. I think every cancer is different though because we all have birthcharts don't we?

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CancerianMoon
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posted December 10, 2005 08:40 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
MoonDuchess..we do all have other aspects in our charts..im thankful for my Gemini Moon and my Aqua Rising..

I Love my home..its where im myself and where i relax(the cancer ive been dating said he felt completely relaxed at my house on the first visit...i loved that!)..but..i love moving house..i stopped this because of moving the kids to different schools wasnt fair..but right now ive been forced to move again..so while im sad at moving..my Gem Moon is saying Yeha...

A saying that comes to mind..

"Home is where your heart is"..

And some words to a song..

"Wherever i lay my hat...thats my home"..

Both apply to me as a Cancer/Gemini

Kat..do you treat your friends like they are your family?
When i was younger..pre children..i was never ever home..and treated my friends like my immediate family..Much more like the "typical Cancerian" now though

The one Cancerian trait i dont have is being good financially..not sure if any of my other planets affect that.

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taurean_scorpion
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posted December 10, 2005 09:44 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hey moonduchess88, my moon's in scorpio in the 6th which is similar to your moon in virgo in the 8th.

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MoonDuchess88
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posted December 10, 2005 10:01 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oh, that's awesome! Random question-do you watch crime dramas?**do you find yourself overanalyzing personal stuff like emotions?

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lioneye68
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posted December 10, 2005 10:15 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree, Kat. But I think this could be said for all signs. Some people are the epitome of their sun sign while others seem to be very little like their sign. We have to be carefull not to make knee-jerk assumptions about anybody based simply on their sun sign, because like Moonduchess said, we all have our own individual charts. Many factors come in to play in a chart and some are more compelling than our very sun sign. Another element is our upbringing and our life experiences.

I have known many Cancers who were the most level headed, rational people you'd ever meet. Sometimes even very funny! I've also known some who are more typical examples of this sign. A person's sign sun is by no means a road map to their soul. We really have to be open-minded about how we see people, even through the lens of Astrology.

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MoonPixie
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posted December 11, 2005 09:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonPixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've always felt that the whole "homebody" thing with Cancer is somewhat inaccurate. I almost go insane when I'm at home, but when I leave my house and go a party, I get tired and want to go back to my room and sleep. So, who knows. I just don't really have this inner longing to always stay in a safe place, like I'd die if I didn't have a permanent place to call home.

What suprises a lot of my friends (who only read teen magazines for astrological info. shame on them.) is that Cancer is that we can be very analytical about our lives. Even my own Virgo says I'm analyzing myself too much, lol.

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CancerianMoon
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posted December 11, 2005 07:30 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OVERANALYSING..ohh gosh do i hear ya!!!
Didnt realize this was a cancerian traite

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Gemini Nymph
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posted December 11, 2005 08:21 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ruminating is probably more precise. Very much a trait of the Cancer-Capricorn axis.

My best pals are both Cancers, and y'know, they deny having many Cancer traits that they obviously have. I just figure it's cos Cancers tend to get fussy and defensive when people tell them things about themselves.

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Swerve
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posted December 11, 2005 08:56 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ain't that the ****** truth GN.

Amen!

Swerve

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Swerve
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posted December 11, 2005 08:56 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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alanabelle86
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posted December 12, 2005 07:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for alanabelle86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My best friend is a Cancer/Taurus Moon.

Her mom is a Pisces/Aries Moon,

her little sister is a Scorpio/Virgo Moon.

And the brother is a Capricorn/Scorpio Moon.


Interesting household that is.

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Isolaede
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posted December 12, 2005 03:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Isolaede     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm a Cancer sun / Taurus moon / Sag rising and if you asked me today I’d have to say that Linda Goodman’s Star Sign description of Cancer females has me dead on.

However the first time I read the Cancer description I was put off by the whole motherhood and home bit. I didn’t want children, wasn’t close to my family and had spent most of my life moving, so I felt I had no attachment to the idea of “home.” Initially I chalked this up to the influences of my Sag ascendant. Remember your sun sign is who you are inside, it’s heavily modified by your other astrological influences. However as time has worn on I’ve come to see that I’m far more of a Cancer than I thought. Linda’s Star Signs description just about perfectly fits me. The thing is- my Cancerian traits just have a different flavor than the standard run-of-the-mill Cancer. For example: I do have a mothering instinct but for me the people I take care of are my friends not my biological children. And I do adore my family, but I don’t have to have them nearby. Long distance with occasional calls is just fine for me. I also love being in my home space – I feel recharged when I spend time at home, but I only require recharging once every few days. And for me that home space is very mutable. I feel at home in my apartment and in my boyfriends place. Pretty much wherever I can feel comfortable and completely myself is my home.

I think all in all, Linda’s description of Cancer’s is perfect, however a few decades have come and gone since Ms. Goodman wrote what she did and women (of all signs) are far more liberated then we once were. I think our cultural ideas of home and family have expanded and changed, and as such Cancer women no longer identify with some of the things discussed in our sun sign description. I think we’d see more of ourselves in the Cancer description if we asked ourselves what we think of as home and family. Once you’ve defined that, go back and reread the Cancer description, inserting your own definitions into it and you might find it a bit more accurate.

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Charisma4
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posted December 13, 2005 12:29 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Cancer rising and I'm a total homebody, although my Libra sun and Leo moon do make me extremely social. But at the end of the night, i start to get homesick. I hate staying away from home for a night, and i'd rather be at my house then at someone else's. I'm also very very motherly to all my friends, even my parents. I'm always listening to my dad's problems at work and giving him advice, my mom's too airy to take advice though, she has so much gemini in her chart, usually advice doesn't sink in; she's so independant.

I also find myself overanalyzing emotions. Not only mine, but everyone's. Which is why I want to be a psychologist

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histrionix
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posted December 14, 2005 12:37 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey there, I'm a Cancer Sun, Ascendant and Mars. Cancer is the most damn over-stereotyped in astrology, probably because the 'mother' concept is so easy to convey, unlike some of the other signs.

The ACCURATE Cancer traits: feels comfortable and authentic around concepts of home and relationships (note I said concepts: doesn't mean they sit around the house or hang out with momma, but means they are happy in wherever they create a comfy base and a friend or partner to relate to). Has killer sense of humor, loves money - accumulating and spending it, great doses of empathy and a genuine love of helping and caring for others, a sensual sex drive that borders of savage when comfy with their lover!! Sensitive to emotions, spirit, and the deep consciousness, and strong.

The INACCURATE traits (in my opinion/experience): Only lives for money, marriage, motherhood, is dependent and incapable of exisiting without someone to baby, mother, or smother. Lover or partner must love mother and family and hang with them lots on Saturday night (my all time pet-peeve Cancer description!) Stingy and cries a lot. Dumb enough not to see past emotions. Incapable of dealing with detached people. Frightened, worrywart, timid, push-over....GOD, the list is endless, pointless, and senseless.

I think over time, Cancer has been stuck with bad mythology that has transferred upon our astrological consciousness, upon which it is seemingly to late to expand on or re-construct.

When you're a Cancer in your teens, and just like any other teenager, you're confused, insecure, whatever....for God' sake don't look into Astrology, hehe, cause all you'll get is: you'll be a weepy, emotional basket case FOREVER AND EVER MOOOOOOOOOOOOHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ahem. Good day to y'all.

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lalalinda
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posted December 14, 2005 11:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
when dealing with water signs the thing to remember is that they are motivated by emotion. They're usually moody because water is liquid and constantly changing form.(Scorpio is better at hiding it though)

If you don't agree with the interpretation, you probably have a stronger influence in your chart like a stellium,

a planet conjuncting the Asc. or your Sun whos influence is very different than the Moon/Cancer.

Sun in a cadent house and not strongly aspected

or a prominate ruling planet, just to name a few.

There will always be a strong urge to connect as in family (Cancer trait) sometimes it just needs to be activated (as in a heavy transit)

or eventually you just grow into it.

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Kat
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posted December 14, 2005 06:00 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
These are great replies!!
histrionix, I think your right; we Cancerians like a good "foundation" I think much of my problems stem from not being in a permanent relationship. At times I put on the I'm so independent facade, but I really would like to have someone to share it with. Something feels like it's missing.

Yes, Swerve you said it perfectly! I've even been mistaken as a Geminii. I think rationalizing is a great way to cover up being extremely sensitive. I have lots of water in my chart so maybe that has something to do with it. Yet I've met so many people who are phenomenal at expressing emotions verbally etc. and I'm not one of them.(For those interested my d.o.b is July 11, 1963 7:53AM Cleveland, OH)

I was very fortunate to have a Pisces mother to soften up my Sag father.

Cancerian Moon, I don't have alot of friends, but I think I treat them better than family - respect is very important to me.

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cancerrg
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posted December 15, 2005 10:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cancerrg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hmmm.. , well i tend to agree with what histronix said . we have got trapped in an image , more so than anyother sign .

as for myself , i am a homebody , i am not a party man but i like going out and meeting people .
i think i am social but yes, i do find it very tough to approach people .
i am a good money manager , i think this is one thing that i am most comfortable in .infact , i got into property purchase and all very early in life ( its considerd tough here bcos u got to understand all the tax saving tricks and the cheap negotiations tricks of the intermediary )

i like being with friends everyday but at present i am just in touch with just one of my scorp friend . this isn't a new thing with me though i am accoustemed to be with a lot of friendsand this is the same with some other cancers that i know , so i think , contrary to the cancerian image , they are very much adoptable living alone or isolation .

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posted December 17, 2005 12:07 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Some Cancers are not homebodies. Some are home wreckers. Remember that issues of "home" are not always going to be perfect, but Cancer influences tends to make a mark where all things "home" are involved.

Look at your 4th House too, do you have any Planets there? Is it part of a T-Square or something like that, where it is the center of an Empty Space?

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MoonDuchess88
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posted December 17, 2005 12:16 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yeah, I have NO planets in my 4th house, thats probably why

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astro junkie
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Having no Planets in your 4th is not exclusively the reason either, but good to look at because the energies of your 4th House can be transmuted by the energies of other Planets. Such as Uranus in the 4th House. See?

Now, if your 4th House is really isolated, it could cause you to deal with your 4th House issues on a more subconcious level.

There could be a lot of reasons.

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posted December 17, 2005 11:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My last Cancer girlfriend had issues with accepting the description of Cancer as well.

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silvermoon
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posted December 19, 2005 09:33 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As another Crab, I would have to say that I agree that many of the descriptions out there of my sign are outdated and limited in scope. There is much more to us than just the motherly, domestic type we are often portrayed to be.

Thanks for bringing this up, Kat!

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Swerve
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posted December 20, 2005 02:10 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have to say that knowing 3 age groups of Cancers, the one thing I have noticed being diluted through them as each new one pops up is being being genuine and trustworthy, which is a shame.

They seem to be getting more flaky and self-absorbed. More like Geminis, but without admitting to it which gives Gems their cuteness. I have noticed this a lot with my Cancer friends. Sensitivity that is switched on and off is just emotional manipulation.

But, to be fair, that could be applied to most people.

I hope I am never like that.

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