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alanabelle86
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posted November 16, 2006 07:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for alanabelle86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted November 16, 2006 07:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for and     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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sue g
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posted November 16, 2006 08:03 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not sure about the effects of transits etc girl...

But just wanted to give you some support...

SHAME on yer Dad for behaving this way...he is your father and a grown man....how foolish of him to let his stubborness and ego get in the way of his relationship with his daughter!!

I am a parent of a very strong willed son and we clash often, but I will always apologise if I think I have done wrong!! This morning he was about to storm out of the house and I called his name and he turned around and looked at me and then ran back to me....we hugged for some time. It would have been so easy for me to close the door and mutter to myself "sod this"...but I just quickly thought how I wouldnt want to go off to school under a cloud.

We ended up telling each other "I love you" and it was all forgotten about in minutes.

I am sorry for you and yer Dad....his stubborness is detrimental to a very precious relationship...

Silly man...I hope he learns to open up his


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posted November 16, 2006 09:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My sympathies.

If you can do without him,
do without him.
He is clearly a very unevolved soul,
or, at the very least,
has a lot of karmic baggage in this life,
which is unlikely to resolve itself any time soon.

There is no sense blaming or shaming anyone
for being at their present stage of development,
but, "forgiving"
and "accepting" him for who he is
does not mean you have to stick around
and put up with his abuse.

Taureans do tend to take a long time
to question themselves and make changes.
When they do get moving,
it is often spectacular.
So, there's a chance he could change dramatically.
Still, it is not your obligation
to give him more chances,
and wait, with baited breath,
for him to come around,
while he inflicts more pain on you.

If he is sincere,
he will make great efforts
to apologize and repair the breach himself.
Until he shows up at your front door
begging for forgiveness,
I wouldnt give him another thought.
I'd get in therapy,
and work on healing myself
of the damages he has caused.

Just my two cents.


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Dulce Luna
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posted November 16, 2006 09:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Awww man, can definitely relate. I got into a fight with my dad too on Monday. The description of your father sounds a lot like my father. My father and I are both cancers with alot of the same placements too (fimiliarity breeds contempt). I've learned not to let him get to me anymore as I am an adult.


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devi
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posted November 16, 2006 11:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for devi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, something happened in your Dad, because he realized he went too far and then wanted to talk.

Scorpio and Taurus can be equally fixed. I'm a Taurus, also now in a family dispute with some Scorps and I don't know at this point how it's all going to turn out.

If it helps you in any way, I think your Dad's outburst comes from wanting the best for you, but not knowing how to express himself, except by striking out, because he feels he's not getting through to you, and he loses it. But, as you say you need to live your own life and not according to how he thinks you should live it.

Mercury is Rx in Scorpio, so old issues can resurface now, and it definitely has that Taurus/Scorpio "flavor" to it.

I agree that you should wait now until at least Saturday, when Mercury has gone Direct and Venus will have gone into Sag. He will lighten up considerably. Some of this intensity will die down, even more so after the 20th.

I understand you're so mad right now, you could spit! Somtimes it helps to write a letter, because you can think more about what you mean to say without losing control. If you haven't given him cause to be concerned with your past choices, then he needs to respect the choices you make and give you credit for having a good head on your shoulders.

Lots of Luck on this!
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jenfullmoon
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posted November 16, 2006 07:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jenfullmoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is giving me flashbacks. (Mom and I are Tauruses, Dad's a Scorpio.) We all had screaming fights like every other day when I was growing up. My mom in particular, well, it's pretty obvious at times that she just wanted a clone of herself, not a kid. My dad was the dictator one. Whee!

Most likely this will eventually blow over (I'm going on experience), unless one or both of you stick with the stubborn and refuse to budge about it. Given what you've been dealing with, maybe you shouldn't budge- sounds like life would be more peaceful that way.

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posted November 16, 2006 10:28 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
dear anna,
i looked at the composite and i am getting red lights and sirens going off in my head.i believe things have been much worse growing up in this household that you have said.
in the composite uranus is square to the mars/pluto midpoint.this is flat out extreme violence.the venus/chiron midpoint is square to pluto.this indicates a very abusive environment.saturn/pluto midpoint is square to the sun[maybe the moon also] and square mercury.this also can point to violence that is blocked out.
in your chart,the mars/pluto midpoint and the saturn/neptune midpoint is conjunct the uranus/chiron opposition.this can show violence by the father figure especially when drunk.
this stuff is getting more violent,it has just begun.my suggestion is to immediately get out.go to a shelter.i would talk toa counselor and get this guy put away as your mother and any siblings are in danger also.
i can't read itany other way.your survival is at stake .email me if you want to talk.
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alanabelle86
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posted November 17, 2006 07:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for alanabelle86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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hi anna,
i hope i am overly dramatic,but be careful around nov/21 as by transit the venus/saturn midpoint will be conjunct the composite uranus and the transitting pluto/chiron and mars/uranus mps will be square the comp uranus and opposed to the comp pluto/chiron and comp mars/pluto midpoints.these all point to a bad confrontation.
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