posted February 25, 2005 11:00 AM              

If Person A has a lot of Planets in ONE Sign (example - Sun, Mercury, Jupiter in Sag) - that would increase chances of MORE of their Planets to be in Person B's 7th House, see what I mean? Because A's Planets may be all clustered up, there is more of a chance they may all end up in the other's 7th House.

So...

I'm wondering - of all the Planets, which would you all say would be more powerful in terms of romance, if in the partner's 7th?

Example - would A's Venus in B's 7th House be more powerful than say, if A's Sun, Mercury & Jupiter were in B's 7th? Or vise versa?

Or any way you want to break it down. Hope you understand my question.

posted February 25, 2005 12:18 PM            

Synasty planets in the 7th house

His Ascendant in your 7th House – indicates that his self-image is tied in very strongly to his relationships, particularly this relationship with you.

His Sun in your 7th House – this location is highly significant in terms of cooperation within relationships. The two of you act as mirrors of the other’s personal deficiencies, and help each other identify and overcome these traits in a positive manner. You both help each other realize what is, and what is not really important in your lives. These results in a balanced give-and-take relationship, as long as each of you don’t allow your egos to interfere. It’s extremely difficult to take feedback on your deficiencies, from anyone, but as long as it is done in love and not a negative manner, you both should be OK. This location is quite common in marriage and long term personal friendships. You are both attracted sexually and idealistically to the other.

His Moon in your 7th House – frequently found in romantic and marital relationships. Your individual families play a big part in your relationship. Marriage is usually a means of establishing a home and family, in order to achieve security. This relationship suffers swings in moods and the associated reactions. The two of you are keenly aware of the mood swings, and reactions, and thus handle the swings in a positive manner.

His Mercury in your 7th House – Your respective feelings and thoughts about the relationship, marriage, human relationships, and psychology in general are topics that you both enjoy discussing. Your ability to communicate about mutual problems provides strong support for the relationship. An excellent placement for intellectual compatibility.

His Venus in your 7th House – this arrangement has a strong romantic component. You will both enjoy being with the other, either alone or in a social environment. You are each considerate of the other’s feelings and truly desire to make the other happy.

His Mars in your 7th House – dynamic, action-orientated relationships are indicated by this arrangement. Much depends here on the maturity of the two people for how this is played out in the relationship, but it most likely won’t be one where they just sit and watch TV all the time. If either is somewhat immature, there is a danger of that person being to aggressive and impulsive toward the other, creating resentment. He can activate you to greater self-expression. You in turn, can help him to tone his outbursts down and develop some diplomatic behavior. This arrangement indicates strong sexual attraction, but that by itself will not make a good relationship. Both partners must bring a strong commitment to accept and value the other for who they are as a person.

His Saturn in your 7th House – this
arrangement indicates that he brings serious responsibilities into the relationship, but it also provides a vital factor in determining the relationship’s capacity to handle such relationships. You will both have a strong sense of loyalty and a serious concern about each other’s personal well-being, status, and professional success. This indicates a lasting relationship with each partner achieving fulfillment. This also indicates a combined sense of justice and fair play.

His Jupiter in your 7th House – this arrangement indicates harmony and mutual consideration in marriage and partnerships. In marriage you both share common social, ethical, religious or spiritual, educational, and cultural values, which provides a solid platform to operate from resulting in a harmony of purpose and love. You both would do well in dealing with the public’s beliefs and social order. You will both bring strong, but similar beliefs into the relationship making for a strong consensus, and a single agenda on life.

His Uranus in your 7th House – indicates unusual partnerships and marriages. If this relationship is to work, you will both have to allow the other a great deal of personal freedom. Not only should they allow each other freedom, you should both encourage the behavior. This usually indicates a close friendship based on associations through similar intellectual interests, mutual friends, and group or organizational activities. The attraction between the two of you came about by unusual, sudden, and unexpected circumstances or events. If there is a marriage it often occurs suddenly, and not in the traditional manner. The longer the courtship, the better the chance for longevity.

His Neptune in your 7th House – indicates peculiar circumstances in marriages and other intimate relationships. You will have strong subliminal, psychological effect on each other. You can work well together on art, music, or entertainment activities. Not considered a good arrangement for business or professional relationships, because one or both of you will be unreliable or ineffectual. He can have a confusing and disorienting psychic influence on you.

His Pluto in your 7th House – indicates intense involvement in your close relationships. There is a possibility that he will try to remake or reform you in some manner. You both must take care that neither of you try to dominate or control the other, because that’s the poison apple for this relationship.

His Chiron in your 7th House – As a child you suffered psychological pain because you weren’t able to identify exactly who you were as a person, particularly within relationships. You tended to mirror what others expected you to be, rather than being yourself. This was largely due to your need to be liked or loved by others. The truth is that you have a powerful effect on others, and if you can come to realize that you are just who you should be, your true talents will shine forth. Others will respond to you depending upon how you project yourself. Through this relationship he can help you focus on just being who you are, and to utilize your abundant gifts.

posted February 25, 2005 09:00 PM            

The composite chart illustrates the relationship itself by finding the midpoint between each planet (A's Sun and B's sun) and plotting that as a new chart. The composite chart can be evaluated like a natal chart, including transits and progressions.

posted February 26, 2005 01:48 AM            

My Venus and Neptune fall into his 7th house. (and conjunct his natal Neptune and North Node)

His Jupiter and Chiron fall into my 7th house- conjuncting my Moon and Chiron.

posted February 26, 2005 11:30 AM              

I suppose the way to answer my own question in a very general way would be to say that not ALL Planets in another's 7th House is all bliss. But all will definitely get a girl or guy's attention in quasi-romantic ways. Each provides a learning experience in it's own way.

Wouldn't it be great if we each knew someone who had at least one of their Planets in our 7th so we could expereince romance in all its glory, so to speak. Albeit, the full experience being a "group experience". I better shut up.

posted February 26, 2005 11:48 AM              

Lanny-do yo have any information on the asteroids at all? I have my bf's Venus in my 7th house-taurus as well as his Eros and Amor asteroids. They all sit right on top of my Juno, Ceres, Sappho, North Node and my Venus. (My 7th) Just curious if you had any further information-you have so much as always!! Thanks for checking!

GemStar

posted February 26, 2005 01:03 PM            

Again, great thread.

I have noticed that many of the men that I have dated / married or became engaged to have either a Taurus rising or Virgo rising.

In the case of the Taurus rising, my Venus and Neptune usually falls into their 7th house. In the last 3 signficant relationships my Venus / Neptune fell into their 7th house and with two it conjuncted their Natal Neptune.

Only with Mr. Taurus does one of his planets actually fall into my 7th house (and being Jupiter, my solar ruler, it makes me very happy). Oh Man...for some reason I missed this too..his Mars falls into my 7th house as well.

I think there is something to that, Karmically, when you fall into a persons 7th house and they fall into yours. At the very least there is a friendship that is forged (unless it is Mars or Saturn..I would think that would add too much competition or stern authority).

I also found that with my Venus in my mates 7th house conjuncting their Neptune- I felt that constant tug of the "illusion" that I was somehow being idealized. This is true to an extent with Mr. Taurus, but that his moon falls into my 12th house and his Jupiter is in my 7th, it helps lighten that illusion.

In the my ex, the Leo's 7th house, My Neptune / Venus had to share space with his Mars and Neptune. It caused more than a few problems, but there were fireworks. I just felt that he leaned on me too much- that there were times when I could feel him becoming a burden. He started to consume so much alcohol (Neptune) and we would fight (Mars). It got to the point where my Natal Venus couldn't take that heart ache anymore.

posted March 01, 2005 12:10 PM              

Going back to my original query, which Planets would be more powerful in 7th House Synastry ... I've been pondering how one's Natal would determine this even further.

Example: Pidaua's last few dates have been "Neptune in 7th House" - and she's said she's very Plutonian, as well as she's said the same about me, and I've also shared the Neptune/7th House phenommenon lately.

So would it be that Pluto energy feeling cozy when their date's Neptune's in their 7th?

Would it be the same as say, someone who is very Fire fiery, with lots of Aries & Sag, say - might feel comfortable with a date who's Sun is in their 7th?

Anyone sort of following what I'm saying?

And you know, we always run across simplistic astrological breakdowns which say that the Signs within their own Element get along best, but know all too well, it's not that simple, or even boring.

But perhaps when it gets to a point such as a Synastric 7th House influence, we are more comfortable with a Planet which is in the same Element of potentially the most potent Planetary influence in our Chart.

What do you all think?

posted March 05, 2005 10:34 AM              

I think its an interesting theory and may well be true. My bf's 7th is cancer, which is trined to scorp, so that might be another reason I feel comfortable around him.

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Wouldn't it be great if we each knew someone who had at least one of their Planets in our 7th so we could expereince romance in all its glory, so to speak.

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posted March 05, 2005 02:20 PM            

You're right...and abstractly I think I know what you are saying. Rather than just looking at traditional astrology such as Person A's Sun / Venus makes a harmonious aspect to Person B's 7th house...

You are looking at other strong factors in the chart having an influence or connection to another charts.

Now, in my case- those weren't just dates. Each of those men I had a longer than 1 year relationship with..sometimes it drained on me.. in this Case I am enaged to the 7th house Neptune.

I think the energy is familiar to me and Pluto and Neptune are natural allies / lovers..in a way like Mars and Venus. My 7th house is ruled by Neptune- their 7th house was ruled by Pluto.....

The energy is enormous...

In the same respect..we always JUST look at Rising signs as being the end all be all rulers of the chart..but is that fair? Am I more Virgo rising or Pluto rising? My Pluto conjuncts my ASC within 2 degrees. It is a very powerful planet in my chart that makes major aspects to my Sun / Venus - and forms a Sextile to Neptune (in Scorpio)- In Mr. T's case his Neptune forms a sextile to his Pluto in Libra.

When I look at the Ascendant descriptions..and have in the past..I NEVER felt Virgo rising..maybe with my attention to details..but I am not one that gesticulates like a Merc rising..nor am I skinny...talktative..(unless I am sure about my surroundings or when Sag Sun takes over).

Many of the Scorpio rising traits apply to me. I am very skeptical, sarcastic, secretive..I like my own little world and I do make major eye contact- I have had many people "guess" I was a Scorpio.

So do you think there are ever times when we have Co-rulers? Which is strong Pluto or the Ascendant? I think the Plutonian traits come out even more..maybe that should be a separate topic? Co-rulers and their influence on the chart.

I love traditional astrology, but I think there is so much more to certain vibrations..

Mr. T has a VERY close conjunction, within 2 degrees of his Sun in Taurus with his Taurus ASC..he is very Leonine..outgoing, loves to be the center of attention- likes to perform..it is all kind of odd..

He has this magnetism..you can't help but notice him when he walks into a room. We talked alot about how we act say..in a bar sitting..I said "I will set with a few close friends, somewhere along the sides or towards the back..but so that I can see everyone come in..but so that I am not all that noticable".

He said "Not me..I love being right there in front of everyone. I love to approach people". Oh yeah...and sometimes his bright shirts are garishly Leo

posted March 08, 2005 11:13 AM              

Sorry - just now going through the threads and wasn't sure if you started that new thread on "co-rulers", or about whatever you were referring to.

I think it's a great study. Example, if someone has a T-Square formation in their Chart Wheel, what is the Focal Point and how would that draw in others with something comfortable in their 7th House?

Or a Funnel shape in their Wheel, the Planet the Funnel is all funneling to - would THAT play a determining factor in what Planets would feel comfortable in their 7th House in Synastry ...

Maybe Stelliums can even be looked at.

And I don't want to make this seem like all is locked and sealed. Maybe we are in need of that certain someone's Planet in our 7th in order to grow and move on. I suspect even Transits could be looked at.

It's huge. Let's do it ...

posted July 17, 2008 05:22 PM            

Or any of the other love asteroids?

How does retrograd effect this aspect?