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Glaucus
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posted October 31, 2008 10:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
KARMIC ASTEROID ASTROLOGY

This is post about reincarnation,pastlives,and karma in regards to blacks and whites,males and females,Christian and Muslim,Nazi and Jew that include victims and victimizers. I believe that we all have souls and that the soul's incarnations aren't limited to just one race,color,ethnicity,nationality,creed,religion,and gender. Therefore,I believe in tolerance and acceptance of all those things

This post is not to meant to be divisive but to bridge gaps. It's a post about pointing out possible common shared soul experiences, heritages that can enable us to love each other and accept one another in spite of any differences that are really minor when you look at the big picture.

The way I see it - we are all related to each other and are equal because we are human beings with souls which are eternal. Some of us might have even been friends,lovers,family members,spouses in pastlives....of course,we could have been enemies,opponents too.

I even believe that homosexual couples could have been heterosexual couples in pastlives too.


Disclaimer: Because reincarnation,pastlives,souls,and karma are not documented facts but fall more into ideological views, the following can be viewed as speculation. Come to think of it, skeptics would think the same of Astrology.


Astrological views vary about karma,pastlives,and reincarnation and where you find it in the chart. Some astrologers believe that retrograde objects,12th house placements/aspects,south nodal placements/aspects can indicate karmic pastlife indicators. Some even think connections to the Imum Coeli do too. Uranian Astrologers even think Hades/Admetos midpoint connections can be pastlife indicators. Some even think Saturn placements/aspects. Some even believe Chiron placements/aspects. Some even think Pluto placement/aspects. Some even wrote that lunar placements/aspects indicate pastlife karma. One Astrologer told me the whole entire chart is karmic. I do believe that our chart reflects our karma as a whole. I believe that the soul is not just one thing in a chart,but the overall chart.


My Moon in Pisces in 6th square the opposition of retrograde Saturn in Gemini in 9th and Jupiter-Neptune in Sagittarius in 3rd. My Moon in 3'11 Pisces is conjunct White in 2'49 Pisces(parallel with 59 minutes of arc - Moon-White occultation), and my mother is white. With Moon also an indicator of women that I am attracted, I am attracted to white women. With Moon-White in t-square to my retrograde Saturn in 5'08 Gemini Retrograde in 9th and Neptune in 1'48 Sagittarius in 3rd, there can be feelings of not only empathy with whites but also confusion connected to being part white and being pressured to deny my white heritage because society doesn't see me as white. It also indicates that I can be given a hard time for being involved with a white woman even though my own mother is white. My Christa is in 1'01 Sagittarius,my Israel is in 1'21 Gemini Retrograde in 9th,my Adolftrager is in 1'46 Sagittarius(only 2 minutes conjunct my Neptune and sextile my Pluto in 1st) and my Christen in 2'52 Virgo aspects that t-square for a grand cross,and that could indicate considerable pastlife conflict involving religion, Christianity,Nazism,and Judaism,and I believe in religious equality,freedom. There is a possibility that my mother's maternal grandmother was part Jewish with the German ancestry that she has (her full name seems Jewish and not necessarily German),and my Moon sesquiquadrates Jewitt in 18'49 Cancer(trines my chart ruler Mercury in 18'21 Scorpio in 3rd) with 38 minutes of arc can indicate maternal family connection with Jews. All the configurations combined could indicate a pastlife as a Nazi that terrorized Jews. All of this together could also indicate my present conflicts against White supremacy and religious bigotry because I believe in Unity. My Unitas is in 3'56 Sagittarius conjunct my Neptune in Sagittarius in 3rd,oppose my retrograde Saturn in Gemini in 9th,and square my Moon in 3'11 Pisces.

My Sun in 5'20 Scorpio is conjunct the South Eris Node in 5'29 Scorpio in 2nd. That could indicate collective pastlife karmic issues involving ideology and diversity matters. Maybe I was a racist white person and/or Nazi in a pastlife,and so I reincarnated as a multiracial person to learn to tolerate and accept diversity as well as believing in equal/civil rights for all people regardless of race,sex,sexual orientation,religion,creed,etc.
Joseph Goebells,Adolf Hitler's Nazi propaganda minister was born on October 29th like me,and so he had Sun conjunct South Eris Node in Scorpio like me. My true Black Moon Lilith is in 5'42 Scorpio Retrograde,and that conjuncts the Sun-South Eris Node which can indicate that I have possible pastlife karma involving women,feminism,women's rights,and being a female as well has dealt with ideological,diversity in regards to all those things. I am a strong believer in women's rights and gender equality. I have Arabia in 6'00 Leo in 11th,and so that squares that conjunction. The aforementioned issues could indicate conflict with Arabs including maybe pastlife as an arab that treated women badly or pastlife as a woman treated badly by arabs,and so in this present life I am bothered by the way women are treated in the Middle Eastern as 2nd class citizens. I also believe in the tolerance of arabs and Islam because of my belief in equal treatment for religions,ethnic groups. (In other words,I don't believe that all arabs and muslims are bad like a lot of people in my country seem to think after 9-11 terrorist attacks). This seems to be reflected my Saturn in 5'08 Gemini in 9th sextile my Arabia. Also being part Portuguese and Spanish on my mother's side, there is a possibility of having some Arabic ancestry because Spain and Portugal were occupied by the Moors for over 400 years. Sun rules my 12th house which some say is pastlife karmic house,and so that could add more emphasis on pastlife karma. My Roman in 6'07 Cancer in 10th trine the Sun-South Eris Node-True Black Moon Lilith conjunction and trine my Moon in 3'11 Pisces in 6th can be a possible indicator of karmic pastlife issues as a Roman but also Roman ancestry coming from the English,French,Portuguese,Spanish,Italian ancestry on my mother's side as French ancestry on my father's side. The Romans that were located in Italy occupied England,France,Portugal,Spain. Roman is also sesquiquadrate my Venus in Scorpio with 40 minutes of arc,and that could possible love,attraction,relationships involving Romans. My Vaticana is in 4'24 Aquarius is in 5th house square the Sun-South Eris Node-True Black Moon Lilith conjunction,and trine Saturn in 9th, and this indicate karmic pastlife issues involving The Roman Catholic Church. My mother and her paternal family are Roman Catholics. Being part Portuguese and Spanish on my maternal grandfather's side, I come from a long line of Roman Catholics. My stepfather was Roman Catholic too. Seeing the history of molestations by many Catholic priests, it makes sense that I want to be very cautious of my future children being near Catholic priests. Who knows...maybe I unconsciously knew about what some Catholic priests do,and so I stayed away from the Catholic Church. I wonder if there was a pastlife of speaking out against molestation and getting killed for it. I also never liked their hypocritical history as well as the hypocritical history of Christianity,and so I have no religious preference and even lean towards paganism.

My South Eris Node's dispositor,Pluto is in Libra in my 1st house quincunx my Moon(idelogical,diversity issues involving my feelings,women),sextile my Neptune(diversity issues involving spirituality),trine my Saturn - (diversity issues involving restrictions,authority),and contraparallel my Sun( diversity issues involving my self expression, father who was black). Interestingly, the dispositor of my South Eris Node, Pluto and the dispositor of my North Eris Node, Venus are in mutual reception for my Pluto is in Libra in 1st and my Venus is in Scorpio in 3rd, and this indicates that present and pastlife karmic ideological,diversity matters figure strongly into love and relationship matters in my life, and this manifests into interracial love,relationships which I was born from and have been involved in.
My Pluto is semisquare Whiteknight in 15'19 Scorpio in 3rd house with 32 minutes of arc could indicate deadly connections with the Klu Klux Klan which was created on the day when Mercury was square Whiteknight on Christmas Eve of 1865. My Whiteknight is also conjunct my chart ruler Mercury in 18'21 Scorpio(it also parallels my Mercury with only 1 minute of arc,and that considerably strengthens the conjunction,it is also parallels Venus with 13 minutes of arc - so involves relationships,values,parallels my Neptune with 34 minutes of arc - so inspiration,idealism,contraparallel my Saturn with 39 minutes of arc - restrictions,authorities),and it semisextile my Uranus in 15'17 Libra in 2nd,and this could indicate independence,liberalism distancing myself from the Klu Klux Klan. Altogether could indicate karmic connections involving the Klu Klux Klan. My Pluto is also sextile My Christa in 1'01 Sagittarius/Adolftrager in 1'46 Sagittarius/Neptune in 1'48 Sagittarius in 3rd,and trine my Israel in 1'21 Gemini Retrograde in 1st,can indicate pastlife karmic issues involving spirituality,Nazism,Christianity,and Jews. My Pluto is square Stationary Retrograde Paganetti in 0'42 Cancer in 11th,and that can indicate pastlife karmic issues involving pagans.

I have Midheaven in 11'14 Gemini. The Sabian Symbol for 12 Gemini is
"The Negro Girl Fights For Her Independence In the City"
This fits with my not only being part black, but also connected to matters involving civil/equal rights,advocacy,standing up for self/others,racism,sexism,minorities as well as pastlife karma involving slavery,oppression,and the aforementioned things.
Also..my Africa is in 11'15 Aries Retrograde,Africano is in 12'38 Aries Retrograde,my Eris is in 12'15 Aries Retrograde,and my Chiron is in 10'32 Aries Retrograde....all in the 8th house ruled by my Mars(there is a possibility of my death being connected to violence and even a racial hate crime but also pastlife karma involving violence and racial hate crimes that ended with death) and they sextile my Midheaven in 11'14 Gemini. This indicates wounds,healing in regards to being of African descent that can be connected to pastlife slavery karma. Their dispositor and 8th house ruler, Mars is in 25'54 Aquarius conjunct my asteroid,Black in 27'41 Aquarius in 6th,oppose Hispania in 26'23 Leo in 12th,and sextile Portugal in 26'19 Aries Retrograde in 8th which semisquares my Midheaven/sesquiquadrate my Imum Coeli with 5 minutes of arc,and all that together possibly indicates my not only being mixed with Spanish and Portuguese on my maternal grandfather's side, but possible pastlife karma as a Spaniard and/or Portuguese involved in the African American slave trade. Portugal and Spain were heavily involved in the Atlantic slave trade. I have Moon contraparallel Portugal with 1'02 orb(the orb is only 2 minutes past the orb, and it does fit my Portuguese ancestry on my mother's side). My 4th house ruler Jupiter contraparallel Hispania with 4 minutes of arc fits with my maternal Spanish ancestry. Christiansen in 25'56 Leo is in 12th house oppose Mars with 2 minutes of arc, and this seems like strong odds and war with Christianity. This could indicate that I could have engaged in violence in the name of Christ like either being involved in the inquisition,burning witches(maybe have been burned myself) as well as fighting in the Crusades against the Muslims to free Jerusalem. My Knight is in 25'00 Aries Retrograde in 8th house sextile Mars in Aquarius can indicate fighting/war as a knight. I was always fascinated with anything that had to do with knights including the Crusades. This configuration can also indicate the Knights of the Klu Klux Klan(the earliest Klan were former Confederate Soldiers that rode on horses terrorizing,killing Blacks). I could have also persecuted Christians too. The conjunction of Chaldaea in 24'24 Capricorn and Jerusalem is in 25'33 Capricorn(Chaldeans are aka Babylonians and they conquered Israel and made their people captives...they were pioneers in Astrology. Chaldean used to be synonymous with Astrologer) semisextile my Mars and quincunx my Christiansen. My Paganetti is in 23'10 Aquarius conjunct Mars. It's even quincunx my Church in 23'33 Virgo in 1st,and this could indicate pastlife Church-Pagan conflict which affects my present life. My Nasi is in 24'46 Scorpio in 3rd square my Mars,and this could indicate Nazi Violence, and my Adolfneckar in 24'34 Gemini in 10th quincunxes that too. Mars is my 8th house ruler, and so all the aspects to Mars could indicate that death was involved. My Germania is in 28'11 Leo in 12th closely oppose my Black,and that could German-Black conflict(could be connected to pastlife Nazism which included negative views about blacks which could end manifest in this life as a person part black who is viewed negatively by some Germans). My Moon is contraparallel Germania with 27 minutes of arc,and I am part German on my maternal grandmother's side. I have an interesting opposition of Roma in 27'51 Gemini Stationary Retrograde in 10th and Romulus in 27'22 Sagittarius in 4th,and that squares my Arabis in 28'43 Virgo in 12th which can indicate possible pastlife karmic Arab-Roman conflict but also Roman and Arabic family ancestry(4th and 10th houses are parental houses) especially connected to my Portuguese and Spanish ancestry with Stationary Retrograde Roma and Romulus aspecting my Hispania and Portugal! Romans had a history of fighting wars against Carthaginians(part of the ancestral composition of the Portuguese and Spanish) which were North Africans. They had a history of having black African slaves but also they enslaved people of numerous countries that includes countries in Europe and Asia. My Stationary Roma and Romulus aspect my Black. Romulus is the mythological founder of Rome. My Europa is in 23'28 Cancer in 11th trine my Venus in 21'47 Scorpio in 3rd can indicate friendships,relationships/love,siblings,and family history connected to Europe.

My Niger is in 13'47 Scorpio in 3rd sextile my Ascendant in 13'27 Virgo as well as quincunx my Africa in 11'15 Aries retro,quincunx my Eris in 12'15 Aries retro, and Africano in 12'38 Aries retro in 8th,and that can indicate my black identity that people see. I have been called the n'word numerous times in the past, and my Niger is conjunct my Whiteknight(Klu Klux Klan)in Scorpio in 3rd house. My Adolphine is in 13'56 Virgo conjunct my Ascendant,and my conjunction of Adolfborn in 13'12 Capricorn and Caesar in 12'33 Capricorn trines that. This could indicate possible pastlife issues involved Roman imperialism, being a Nazi and mistreatment of Jews(both the Nazis and the Romans mistreated Jews). My Sumeria is in 13'48 Cancer in 11th sextile Ascendant,and this could indicate possible pastlife in Sumer which was an ancient country that was located in Mesopotamia(corresponding with Modern day Iraq. There might even be some possible Sumerian ancestry. It is one of the earliest known civilizations in the world.I find the Sumerians to be fascinating, especially reading Zecharia Sitchken's 12th planet theories about Niburu and its people,the Annunaki connected to Sumerian Mythology. I do believe the stuff is Science Fiction until it's proven to exist.

My Blanco(Spanish for white) is in 9'40 Aquarius conjunct my North Lunar Node in 10'29 Aquarius in 5th,sextile my 4th house ruler Jupiter in 8'17 Sagittarius,sextile my Chiron in 10'32 Aries,and trine my Midheaven in 11'14 Gemini. That can indicate karmic connections/destiny,family,romance,children involving whites. My Austria is in 9'25 Sagittarius is conjunct my 4th house ruler Jupiter and Imum Coeli/oppose my Midheaven,trine my South Lunar Node/sextile my North Lunar Node can indicate karmic family connections involving Austrians which could involve connections with Nazism. My Mesopotamia is in 11'35 Sagittarius in 4th conjunct Imum Coeli in 11'14 Sagittarius/oppose Midheaven in 11'14 Gemini, and trine South Lunar Node/sextile North Lunar Node can indicate possible pastlife in Mesopotamia as well as possible Mesopotamian ancestry. Babylon was an ancient city-state in Mesopotamia. My Babylon is in 8'15 Gemini Retrograde in 9th conjunct Midheaven/oppose Imum Coeli and oppose 4th house ruler Jupiter with only 2 minutes of arc, and trine North North Lunar Node can indicate karmic connections involving Babylonians. Babylon was an ancient city in Mesopotamia,and it was considered the center of evil in the Bible. Babylonians were pioneers in medicine,science,and the metaphysical sciences including Astrology. I was born in San Francisco, and many religious conservatives think of San Francisco as a modern day US Babylon because it is highly liberal,tolerant,and openminded city. It's a perfect birthplace for a person born to an interracial couple and my parents met there. I even want to be cremated and my ashes scattered from the Golden Gate Bridge in San Francisco like my fellow Pisces Moon maternal grandfather. Strangely,I wanted that before he had it done. It seems very likely that will be done to me too. San Francisco - the beginning and the end. I don't believe in being buried in the ground with my soul being somewhere else. Of course,I believe that my soul will return again numerous times as different gender,race,color,ethnicity,creed,etc. Each and every time, I hope to be more tolerant and accepting of diversity as my soul evolves.

Peace,
Raymond


List of Asteroid Charts

1. Race Relations Chart http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q112/Astynaz/RaceRelationsChart.gif
2. Nazi/Jew Relations Chart http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q112/Astynaz/Nazi-JewRelationsChart.gif
3. Christianity/Middle East Relations Chart http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q112/Astynaz/Christian-MiddleEasternRelationsCha.gif
4. Christianity/Pagan Relations Chart http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q112/Astynaz/Pagan-ChristianRelationsChart.gif


5.My Chart with Sun conj True Black Moon Lilith http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q112/Astynaz/RaymondNatalChart-2.gif


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lalalinda
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posted November 01, 2008 03:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
great food for thought
Thanks for sharing

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posted November 01, 2008 11:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
glaucus, if you are going to be scattered over our bay i hope you will be sure to eat and live clean...i'm running on the zero pollution platform!!!

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posted November 01, 2008 01:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Deliverance     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Fascinating Raymond, I'm going to check some asteroids in my chart.

Just want to point out the Niger is a country near Nigeria - its pronounced Nee-jeer. The river Niger is a major river in west Africa. The spelling is similar to the N-word, but the pronunciation is completely different.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niger

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posted November 01, 2008 02:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Fascinating Raymond, I'm going to check some asteroids in my chart.
Just want to point out the Niger is a country near Nigeria - its pronounced Nee-jeer. The river Niger is a major river in west Africa. The spelling is similar to the N-word, but the pronunciation is completely different. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niger


Yep...I am aware of that. I know there are countries called Niger and Nigeria.
I have found Niger to work for the n'word. A matter of fact, I remember the first time I was called the n'word. It was on my 9th birthday in the afternoon..it was after school. I argued with a female friend who lived in my apts and went to my school, and she called me the n'word.

October 29, 1980
4:00 PM
Sacramento,California

on that day,
Transiting Niger in 1'37 Virgo was in my 12th squaring the conjunction of my Secondary Progressed Mercury in 1'39 Sagittarius and Natal Neptune in 1'48 Sagittarius in my 3rd.

Nov 17, 2006
Comedian Michael Richards ranted the n'word on the day when there was a grand trine of
Niger in 8'23 Cancer Retrograde,
trine Uranus in 10'48 Pisces Stationary Direct Mercury in 9'03 Scorpio Stationary Direct
(Grand Trine)...so Mercury conjunct the Uranus/Niger midpoint.

I found that stuff out when I was doing my Eris research on race relations issues

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posted November 01, 2008 02:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Deliverance     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmm, both of my parents have asteroid Niger conjunct their Sun (Cancer & Gemini), I put this down to the fact that they were born in Nigeria. My mothers Niger in Gemini conjunct Sun represents the fact that she speaks her Nigerian language
I have asteroid Niger Square my Saturn in Leo (Father). This represents my Nigerian heritage.

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posted November 01, 2008 02:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
WOW...That is incredible!!!!

The synchronicities in Asteroid Astrology are amazing!

why there are many astrologers skeptical and even cynical of the use of asteroids in astrology is a mystery to me.

I have been into asteroid astrology since 1999, but got into the name asteroid astrology stuff in 2000.

Where are your Africa,Africano,and Black placed in your chart?

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posted November 01, 2008 02:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Deliverance     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL, this is freaky.
asteroid Black (5.35 Virgo) is trine my Sun (5.36 Capricorn)

Africa (5.22 Gemini) is inconjucnt my Sun & conjucnt my mothers Sun

Africano (26.48 Cancer)is inconjunct my Mars (26.25 Sag)

Weird!

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posted November 01, 2008 04:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
HOLY COW!!!!!!!!!!!!

Asteroid Astrology never ceases to amaze me!!!

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posted November 02, 2008 04:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ixion was the king that was involved in a murder, and nobody would
purify him. Zeus agreed to purify Ixion. But Ixion,being the lusty guy
that he was trying to get with Hera. Hera told Zeus about it. Zeus
laid a trap for Ixion. He made a Hera out of a cloud. Ixion came unto
that fake Hera,and he had sexual relations with it. Well..Ixion was
stupid to brag about it. He got caught. Zeus had Hermes take Ixion down
to Tartarus and had him chained to a flaming wheel that he spins
forever.

Interestingly, Mark Andrew Holmes listed karma as one of Ixion's
keywords. Some astrologers compared the wheel to the karmic wheel.

here is Mark Andrew Holmes Ixion section

Astrologically, Ixion signifies busy-ness, workaholism, lust to acquire
or possess, materialism and its consequences, lack of appreciation or
gratitude, to take things for granted, being on a treadmill, being
without regrets, being harmed by one's own creations or ingenuity or
through something artificial, hubris, karma, rediscovering something
simpler, strength through joy, creating trouble, creating change, lust
for life, charisma, inventiveness, ingenuity, having one's mistakes or
evil take on a life of their own, passing problems down through the
generations, "breaking eggs in order to make omelets", "taking the
tiger by the tail." http://www.geocities.com/mahtezcatpoc/ixion.html

I wanted Ixion to be named, Inanna, the Sumerian Goddess of
love,Warefare,and fertility who was killed in the Underworld by her
sister the queen of the Dead, Ereshnikal and ressurected 3 days later.
She came back to the Heavens more powerful than ever. I was very
disappointed with the name,Ixion...especially with its mythology. Later
on,I realized just because a heavenly body is named after a bad
character doesn't mean that the heavenly body has a negative influence.
I believe that all heavenly bodies have both negative and positive
traits.


here is something freaky:

Ariadne in 5'03 Scorpio
Sun in 5'20 Scorpio
Scotti in 5'23 Scorpio
Ixion in 5'25 Scorpio
South Eris Node in 5'29 Scorpio
True Black Moon Lilith in 5'42 Scorpio R

Lawrence in 20'39 Sagittarius in 4th
semisquare Sun - '19
(that also means...that Lawrence semisquares Ixion,Ariadne,Scotti,True Black Moon Lilith,and South
Eris Node within half a degree.

Davida in 20'31 Sagittarius in 4th
semisquare Sun - '11
(that means that Davida is conjunct Lawrence in Sagittarius in 4th with 8
minutes of arc, and that conjunction semisquares Sun,Ixion,Ariadne,True Black Lilith, and
South Eris Node within half a degree.

I read that Ariadne has to do with abandonment issues. My father was
Lawrence Scott. I have my mother's maidenname was my last name. I never
knew my father. He was 13 years older than my mother. He left,and was
never from again since I was 1 1/2 years old I inherited something from
him that is very obvious in me, my blackness in that I am part black,
society see me as black under the official one drop rule even though I
have a white mother. From what my mom told me, he was highly
sensitive,emotional,shy,insecure man with a drug problem with
speech,coordination,and auditory processing problems like I had(it
turned out he had Moon in Pisces disposited by Stationary Neptune. He
had Mars in Scorpio too..most of planets were in feminine signs). My
mother told me that he believed in unity and universal love too. She
told me that he told her one time "don't do that..God wouldn't want you
doing that" after my mom was talking bad about somebody. Of course, I
learned about tolerance and acceptance of diversity which I feel fits
with Eris. David is the first name of my stepfather,and he is the only
father figure that I ever known. He didn't meet my mother until I was 2
1/2 years old. My mom ended up living together
David was a multiracial person with black in him too,and he identified
as black. He was 25 years older than my mother. He and my mother split
up a few weeks before I graduated from high school. My mother finally
got fed up with his controlling,selfish ways. I was rather rebellious
towards him,talking back to him,giving rebuttals,and just standing up
for myself. He was too strict,critical with me. He was like a drill
seargant...well..he was in the Air Force for 20 years and was retired
before he met my mom. He was very critical and major organized
neatfreak to the point that my mom think he might had some obsessive
compulsive disorder. He was very race conscious,and I think that he
might had some subtle racist issues with whites,but he didn't mind
being with white woman like my mom. He also had a bit of an ego,and at
times talked down to people. He did that to my mom a lot and me. He was
the opposite of my biological father in a lot of ways.

My chart seems to reflect my stepfather replacing my father as a father
figure and end up being a dominant,shaping,controlling influence in my
life. My stepfather was born in Boston,Massachusetts. My father was
born in New Orleans Louisiana. So you see geographical cultural
differences too. My father was from the South,and my stepfather was
from NorthEastern part of USA. They both dealt with a lot of
racism,being black..especially the segregation. I am glad that I was
born in 1971 and not 1941 like my father nor 1929 like my stepfather.


but yeah..when I see things like that with the asteroids, it makes me
believe that there is such thing as fate and destiny. I mean...I didn't
have any control over my father leaving and my stepfather meeting my
mom to ultimately to become the only father figure that I haver known
and profoundly shaped my life. I definitely believe in a karmic
approach to Astrology and not just a psychological approach to it.
There is free will,but I believe that destiny and fate factor in our
life experiences.


My Sun is quincunx Saturn Retrograde in Gemini in 9th
that also means Saturn is closely quincunx Ixion,Ariadne,true Black
Moon Lilith,and South Eris Node

if you look at both Sun and Saturn as father
well..my father had Sun in Capricorn trine Saturn
my stepfather had Sun in Leo
fits right in with my Sun quincunx Saturn! hahahaha

I hate that mainstream astrologers are so very skeptical of asteroid
astrology or should I say..cynical. I have been into Asteroid
Astrology since 1999, and that's only a year after I got into
Astrology. I got into personal name asteroid Astrology in 2000. The
things that I find in Asteroid Astrology is what really makes me a
strong believer in Astrology. Planets in signs,houses,and aspects can
be vague, but asteroids really finetune all that, and gives it a story.
They are amazing. I am an asteroid astrologer for life.

I believe that everything happens for a reason. Asteroids seem to show
that bigtime. I have found way too many synchronicites with asteroids
to believe otherwise.

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posted November 02, 2008 04:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Since I talked about my Mom, I wanted to show you the asteroids of my
father and stepfather in her chart
I also included the race,ethnic asteroids because my father and
stepfather had black ancestry. Interracial relationships have a
history of being challenging. This was true for my mom's interracial
relationships.
I also included mine too..only the ones that I didn't list earlier.


List of asteroids checked out:

Lawrence,Laurentia,Larry in regards to my father being first named
Lawrence and called Larry

Scott,Scotti in regards to my father's last name

Black,Africa,Africano,Negron,Niger in regards to Black African
ancestry

Davida,Davidedwards,Davidbrown in regards to my stepfather whose
first name was David and middle name was Edwards....he had light
brown skin)

Brown in regards to skin color


in my mom's chart
Scotti in 5'55 Cancer in 1st:
conjunct Jupiter in 4'29 Cancer in 1st
trines Saturn in 3'04 Scorpio in 5th(Children,Romance)
oppose Mars(Animus) in 5'49 Capricorn Retrograde in 7th(Relationships)
(POINT OF THAMES configuration)

in my mom's chart:
Scott in 22'38 Aquarius in 9th(another race):
oppose Pluto(intensity,transformation) in 22'54 Leo in 3rd
oppose Niger(Black,n'word) in 23'26 Leo in 3rd
trine Sun(animus planet) in 21'59 Gemini in 12th
trine Neptune(sensitivity,idealism) in 23'24 Retrograde in 5th
(Children)
(KITE configuration....whooaa!)

in my chart:
Scott in 10'39 Cancer (family) in 10th(father)
square Chiron in 10'32 Aries Retrograde in 8th
square Africa in 11'15 Aries Retrograde in 8th
square Eris in 12'15 Aries Retrograde in 8th
square Africano in 12'38 Aries Retrograde in 8th
semisextile Midheaven in 11'14 Gemini
(well...this seems to reflect him being my father and his black
ancestry that inherited as well that leads to diversity issues as a
painful connection with him and diversity issues)

in my mom's chart:
Lawrence in 25'56 Pisces in 10th.
trine 5th/12th house ruler Venus in 25'04 Cancer in 2nd
semisextile Africa in 26'06 Aries Retrograde in 11th
semisextile Africano in 25'25 Aries Retrograde in 11th
(Looks like my mother was meant to have a relationship with my black
father to have me...she also has a history of having many black
friends overall in her life)...it's interesting that she has a t-
square of Venus,Africano-Africa,Neptune in 23'25 Libra in 5th
indicate significant relationship challenges involving
love/relationships with blacks and child that resulted from one)

in my mom's chart
Larry in 8'13 Pisces in 9th (another race)
conjunct Midheaven in 8'57 Pisces
square Black in 7'32 Gemini in 12th
square Negron(Black) in 10'52 Gemini in 12th
trine Brown in 11'01 Scorpio Retrograde in 5th(children)
(Larry was another named that my father was called.....looks like a
strong soul connection that my mom had with my black father...her
romances and children brownskinned....she even has Venus semisquare
Negron with 48 minutes of arc)


in my chart:
Larry in 13'35 Gemini Retrograde in 10th
conjunct Brown in 13'46 Gemini Retrograde in 10th
conjunct Midheaven in 11'14
trine Vertex in 14'49 Aquarius in 5th
trine Uranus in 15'17 Libra in 2nd
sextile Chiron in 10'29 Aries Retrograde in 8th
sextile Africa in 11'15 Aries Retrograde in 8th
sextile Eris in 12'15 Aries Retrograde in 8th
sextile Africano in 12'38 Aries Retrograde in 8th
square Ascendant in 13'27 Virgo
(well..this reflects my father with my resembling him with my having
some of his black African features as well as my black African
Inheritance from him...also..my liberal,unconventional,relationship
values connected to him....my father had medium to dark brown skin,
and i have light brown/dark tan skin)

in my mom's chart
Laurentia in 16'56 Leo in 3rd
square Chart ruler Moon in 18'51 Scorpio in 5th
square Vertex in 19'03 Scorpio in 5th
(this configuration indicates fated relationship,intense emotional
involvement with him that led to me being born)

in my chart:
Laurentia in 25'28 Sagittarius in 4th(home,ancestral roots)
sextile Mars in 25'54 Aquarius in 6th
sextile Black in 27'41 Aquarius in 6th
quincunx my Negron(Black) in 25'25 Cancer in 11th
(YOD configuration!....Mars disposits my Eris-Chiron-Africa-Africano
conjunction as well as as co-ruler of Scorpio, disposits my
Sun.....so this could reflect his being my father who I inherited my
black African ancestry from which leads to diversity issues but also
a wound because I don't know him....esp)

in my mom's chart:
Davidedwards in 18'56 Leo
square Chart ruler Moon in 18'51 Scorpio in 5th
square Vertex in 19'03 Scorpio in 5th
(David and Edward are the first and middle names of my
stepfather......this configuration indicates that her meeting fated
relationship,intense involvment with him that also affected me.)
its interesting that my mom has Laurentia-David Edwards conjunction
square her Moon in 5th.....this shows that it was a fated meeting of
m was meant to replace my father as somebody important in our lives)


In my chart:
Davidedwards in 21'44 Libra in 2nd
Venus in 21'47 Scorpio in 3rd
contraparallel Ascendant - '10
contraparallel Chiron - '10
(I did have a painful relationship with my stepfather)


in my mom's chart:
Davida in 16'38 Sagittarius Retrograde in 6th
quincunx 4th house ruler Mercury in 15'27 Cancer
(My mom did have communication problems with him)


in my mom's chart:
Davidbrown in 20'54 Scorpio Retrograde in 5th
conjunct Vertex in 19'03 Scorpio in 5th
conjunct Moon in 18'51 Scorpio in 5th
square Pluto in 22'54 Leo in 3rd
quincunx Sun in 21'59 Gemini in 12th
(my stepfather,David had light brown skin from being part black, and
this configuration indicates intense emotional connection that
affected me that included power issues...it was an abusive
relationship that led to me being abused)'

in my chart:
Davidbrown in 12'33 Aries Retrograde in 8th
conjunct Africano in 12'38 Aries Retrograde in 8th
conjunct Eris in 12'15 Aries Retrograde in 8th
conjunct Africa in 11'15 Aries Retrograde in 8th
conjunct Chiron in 10'32 Aries Retrograde in 8th
sextile Midheaven in 11'14 Gemini
sextile Lunar Nodes in 10'29 Aquarius in 5th/Leo in 11th
quincunx Ascendant in 13'27 Virgo
(this fits with my part black stepfather figure who was
psychologically,physically abusive with me as well as the diversity
issues)


It was no accident that my mom met my father and had a child with
him. It was no accident that she met my stepfather too. It seems like
she was meant to be with my stepfather so he would be my father
figure.


It seems like everything happens for a reason.


Man....makes me want to check out my chart to see my future wife and
mother of my children!
hahahahahaha

I really blown away by the amazing synchronicities in Asteroid
Astrology!


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posted November 03, 2008 05:41 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear Glaucus,
Your energy in research never fails to inspire. I wish you had also checked up Asteroid Karma, and made a draconic chart to see it link with your mom, dad and step-dad.
Cheers!

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posted April 16, 2013 08:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Niger in 9th house square Sun in 6th house, Venus conjunct African and square Jupiter, inconjunct Ascendant, Blanco square Moon and IC, Karma opposite White, hmmmm

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