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shirty
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posted August 01, 2007 11:48 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So, Neptune is the planet of disillusionment right? Would you say it is a bad idea to enter into a relationship when this planet is transiting your 7th house?

The reason I ask is because I've been in a relationship for almost 5 months (not that long, I realize) and Neptune has been in Aquarius (my 7th House) the whole time. The past month or so I've been having doubts about it. It doesn't feel as right for me as I thought it was.

The thoughts mostly come when we're not spending time with each other.. even if I saw him the night before. So I don't think it's normal.

Can anyone suggest anything? You'd think the rose-colored Neptunian glasses would only come off once Neptune has left my 7th house.. but that doesn't seem to be the case.

Thanks for your help!
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Arnicka
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posted August 02, 2007 05:20 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wouldnt say its a BAD thing - just keep the rose glasses unscratched to keep from being duped. It also indicates meeting Neptunian energies in relationships from others as well as yourself.

Ugh I should know its close to being in my 8th - has been in the 7th [2 aqua] for years now and I'm so ready for it to finish to try to get some sort of clear perspective on things! I feel as if Ive been in relationship fog or beer goggle mode.

If anyone else has advice, say with a capricorn 7th for example ~ help

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summerdream
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posted August 02, 2007 07:36 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Neptune just passed the cusp of my 7th/8th house. I broke up a 4-year relationship last year. Tons of heartache, disillusions and frustration... But I learned a lot about myself and others, human nature in general too, more than i ever done in my entire life before that.
SOrry about the bad news, but I think once you see that your relationship was illusive, you almost went through the worst part.
I never regret that i have loved with all my heart though.

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Lucia23
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posted August 02, 2007 07:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Neptune in transiting my 2nd house, in opposition to my Sun(in my eighth house, where I have my Sun, Mercury and Mars.) I have found this transit devastating. For the first time I fell for someone who does not feel the same way back. I'm usually so good at reading that stuff that I feel like I'm crazy. The transit still isn't over.

I say to check the planets that Neptune is aspecting, and the houses it's squaring and opposing as well.

I've had very vivid dreams that feel real.

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shirty
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posted August 03, 2007 08:39 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I did a little research and I'm sort of upset even more now, in a funny way, lol.

"It takes about 14 years for Neptune to pass through a sign." (astrology.about.com)

And, seeing that Neptune is retrograde right now, I guess that means that it's just going right back into the middle of my 7th house before it redirects itself towards my 8th.

Maybe the rose coloured glasses will be on for a while..

oh well haha, there should be a Neptune transiting 7th club

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summerdream
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posted August 03, 2007 09:07 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with Lucia. During the time Neptune went through my 7th, it also opposed my Sun. The year that transiting Chiron conjuncted Neptune and both opposed my sun was most painful. I also have very strong natal Neptune's influence on my Sun, Moon and Venus, so the romantic area came down as a wreck around me that time.

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posted August 03, 2007 11:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Summerdream, I'd love to hear more about your experience with that transit.

I am really struggling with it. After the transit ended, did you notice changes?

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posted August 03, 2007 04:34 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All the Leo rising persons are experiencing a Neptune transit through their 7th house. And you`re right, it takes way too long to leave it
But i don`t think this means you shouldn`t date anymore. I do think there is the possibility to meet someone special during this period, just be careful !

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posted August 03, 2007 05:53 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Y'all are lucky that Neptune is only passing through your 7th house!Mine is Natally there!(Sag.) And somehow I'm always idealizing relationships & deluding myself as to what the other person really feels!I tend to fall WAY too fast...

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Arnicka
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posted August 03, 2007 06:06 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK Moon, I'll trade I have Venus in Capricorn square Mars conjunct Saturn conjunct Pluto.

Still upset?

---Completely kidding---

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posted August 03, 2007 06:11 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Arnicka, i am much better

I have Venus square Mars conjunct Pluto, Venus square Moon too and obviously Moon opposing Pluto !

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MoonDreamer81
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posted August 03, 2007 07:21 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok Arnicka,I feel a little better!But in my defense,I do have Venus in the 12th(along w/ the Sun,Mars,Mercury,& Chiron), and Pluto conj Juno in Libra(H5) as well....

Seems with all that 12th house energy,I'm just full of unresolved issues!LOL!I've got a lot to work on in this lifetime!!

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Arnicka
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posted August 03, 2007 07:52 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a friend with similar placements in the 12th, a stellium definitely -- he works very hard to find his way in the world. I can relate slightly with my Pisces Sun, murky waters to navigate.

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summerdream
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posted August 04, 2007 08:16 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lucia, i think i HAD to change my perspective on my dream to survive this transit. It is a process of turning inward, examining your own dream and how it matches your personality. what I learned is not abandoning my dream, but rather altering the manner I fight for it to match my strength and weaknesses. And prepare yourself to go through a lot of pain too. with Chiron on top of it, the fear of rejection and abandonment was so acute sometimes it either froze me in social contacts, or pushed me into a hyteriscal need for a partner. I even had problem adjusting myself in friendship. on one hand you crave for fine companion who has the same mental wave length to understand you, and all at the same time, have to be aware and restrain so that you don't rely too much or abuse that friendship. the wound will heal, once you see why it occurred, what you did to bring it about. Not that you are at fault here, but the lesson I learned is, you can't expect the other to love with the same intensity, or in the same way as you do. Most people are not able to be that intense, emotionally or spiritually. It's about differences in psychological make-up, not that they don't want to love you.
But then we all experience this transit in different way depending on our natal chart. My natal Neptune is in the 5th, retrograde, trine Sun,Jupiter, Pluto and Midheaven, square Moon and Venus. Just imamgine how hopeless a dreamer i am. I will still be a dreamer, in love, at work, everywhere out and about, but now I just force myself, every now and then, to scrutinize my visions, my emotions, "touch base" you know, and learn to pour my love out to other things in life, not just a partner. Buy yourself some red roses in a rainy day. That helps me too.

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summerdream
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posted August 04, 2007 08:28 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Quote Arnika:
"I'm always idealizing relationships & deluding myself as to what the other person really feels!I tend to fall WAY too fast..."

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Arnika, I thought this is the description for Neptune in the 5th, like me? Could you tell me the difference of these 2 positions? How did you deal with it?

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posted August 04, 2007 08:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for alanabelle86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would NEVER live my life by the planets. If you do that, you'll never live. And Neptune transits last so long, who knows how many good people you'll pass up, just because you're afraid of what the outcome will be.

I say this is an amazing time to enter a relationship, and I'll tell you why. There's two sides to everything. Neptune is the planet of imagination, unconditional love, beauty beyond all else, fantasy, and it's probably one of the most "feel good" planets around, aspects aside. However, it can be a dark, and strange planet as well. With illusions, misconceptions, and a fog that'll scare the hell out of you and never want to deal with it again.

Neptune is also karma, past lives, spirituality, and transcendence. It's part of the planets job description to be void of definition. You never clearly know what's going on when Neptune transits a specific area of your life, but I'll tell you one thing...it can feel like the most amazing thing you've ever experienced, if you let it. The fact that you've already BEEN in this relationship for 5 months isn't a question of whether or not you can/cannot enter one.

Neptune transiting your 7th has the effect of a slow moving fog. You may already be in a relationship, but as Neptune crosses over, through the fog we start to see things in odd ways. We may see things that aren't really there, or in ways that are far from what the true existence might be. Sure, you can become disillusioned, but you can also find the greatest love of your life. If you look for the negative, you will always FIND the negative.

Do you ever ask yourself why, you've been having doubts? Maybe you're not in the relationship for the reasons you've convinced yourself you are. It's not disillusionment so much as it is a clearing of "fog". Maybe for the time Neptune was in your 7th house, there were a lot of things going on...making it hard for you to see your own intentions. You met this person while you were standing under the fog of Neptune. That doesn't mean this is bad, that just means that maybe things were a little distorted, and/or you weren't seeing things as clearly as you do now. Maybe you saw them all along, but you just couldnt get those rose colored glasses off your face when you needed to most. That doesn't mean this relationship won't work now. It's just that you SEE things differently.


If your feelings have changed dramatically, then maybe you weren't in this for the right reason to begin with. However, if it's just doubts..that's normal. Astrology aside, everyone goes through it. It's completely normal. How else you would you ensure that you really want to be with someone without going through your doubts first!


I'd say just go with it. Take a look around and see if these new "sights" or feelings are bound to be detrimental in the long run. Figure out why you're feeling that way and take further action based on that...not on what Astrology textbooks say. Intuition is usually going to lead you in the right direction.


For the record, with the slow moving planets...sometimes, even after they've long gone out of the house they were transiting, you can still feel their effect up to 10 degrees or more outside of the house. Neptune especially is in a fixed sign...and you know how fixed signs take a lot more to get going than others.

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Lucia23
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posted August 04, 2007 02:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think I'll buy myself some flowers today, even though it's sunny!

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Arnicka
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posted August 05, 2007 08:11 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi summerdream --

That quote you used is actually Moon Dreamer's, not mine -- tho I do feel the same way much of the time and I have Neptune in the 5th ..so that fact that you misquoted is very humorous [sp?] to me! Anyway I'd match 7th house energy to one on one relationships either harmonious or enemies, 5th to me is more good times, play fun, procreation to make children, etc. With Neptune natal 5th it can describe part of your dating style as well as the type of people you like to "date" whereas 7th would be more of a Partner, an ideally equal relationship with someone who is a mirror image of you. It's slightly different territory.

I don't know if you have any Steven and Jodie Forrest astro books but in there they relate houses 4,5,6,7,8 to "Stages" in relationships and they liken the 5th house to unfinished business for example this is an excerpt: [from their 'Skymates' synastry book]

"Neptune in the Fifth House

The evolutionary intent is the accessing of other dimensions beyond our three dimensional one, both through your formidable creative imagination and through intimacy. It is important for you to learn to enjoy meditation, to let it be natural and spontaneous. This is in reaction to overly disciplinarian spiritual work in prior lifetimes. In relationship, you seem to possess a mysterious elixir this is one third romance, one third mysticism, and one third vague, undefinable longing. It follows that you are drawn, wisely or foolishly, to creatures of similarly gentle and slightly arcane inclinations, people who know that the human retina is at least as erogenous as human genitals. Together, in unspoken ways, you share the joys of connection, made more poignant by that unspeakable sorrow, that undefinable longing for some lost world, that Neptunian people feel so deeply in their souls. Your true "playmates" here want nothing from you except your presence. The ones with whom the drama needs to end will suck you dry if you let them.
To launch a relationship or to renew it, you most need: a sense of mystery, magic and otherworldliness.
Your romantic feelings and capacity for joy are most swiftly diminished by: cold-hearted pragmatism.
Recognize those soulmates with whom you need to finish business by watching for their: escapism; neediness; "lost soul" syndrome."

Well this resonates more than a little with me! We attract who we are as the saying goes. Maybe it's not all so horrible

Take care

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posted August 08, 2007 11:16 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Together, in unspoken ways, you share the joys of connection, made more poignant by that unspeakable sorrow, that undefinable longing for some lost world, that Neptunian people feel so deeply in their souls.

Hmm sounds delicious to me . I just spent last night (the whole night - with wine!) talking with a novel writer about the childhood experience of being a stranger in one's own culture, classroom, or even within one's own body, and how it leaves a lingering trace of a yearning wish for some unknown hero coming out from a Greek myth, a modern Captain Jack Sparrow or a ghostly Flying Dutchman. Typical ME!
Thanks so much Arnika. I'm a new one in the art of astrology. Haven't had time to read much.

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posted August 08, 2007 03:31 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh just heard down the wind that Neptune conjunct Juno is really bad for consolidating love relationships too. And no marriage under Neptune transiting over natal Juno will last .

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posted August 08, 2007 03:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for libraschoice7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'll have to remember that, just in case for the future...

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Arnicka
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posted August 08, 2007 08:27 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Juno conj Neptune natal, plus tons of Aqua/Sadge/Gem relating to relationships in my chart~ it all just adds to the mix, lmao

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posted August 08, 2007 09:12 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmm...I have Juno conj Pluto natally in Libra.Guess I'm in for some INTENSE relationships....already have been in 2!

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Arnicka
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posted August 08, 2007 10:25 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's a Super Sexual aspect accdg to Magi Astrology

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posted August 09, 2007 12:29 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What about Juno conjunct Jupiter ?

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