posted October 30, 2007 04:12 AM              

My opinion on the above in question;
#1 Every Pisces Man I've Ever Met, is actually a neat freak. Very organized on the outside (the inside however may be a different story) ei; meaning emotional messes.
#2 Every Pisces Man I've Ever Met, is attracted to Fire Signs (more than for just the fact of that 1/12th of the population this encompasses)
#3 I can consider myself an expert on the subject of Pisces Men and Fire Women for the following reasons:
A] I am a fire woman.
(Sagittarius Sun with an Aries Ascendant)
B] I've had numerous friends of the male pisces sort.
C] I've myself dated several Pisces males.
D] I have currently been living with and about a Pisces Male for 12 years or so.
E] I dated him for 10+ years before I married him.
F] His SUN AND MOON are in Pisces

You said; "I am emotional, but I am also very independent, obstinate and unconventional. I am also a perfectionist. Although I am not the most assertive person out there I am not a wus."

You decribed a Pisces Male to a tee!

So now let's address your original posted question: "Why do fire women always think Pisces men are so weak? "

Here is a clear and concise answer if you choose to hear it.
(Please remember I'm a sag while I do this...)
Sag = Brutal Honesty...

#1 You do not address things face to face.
You act pessamistic when you are confused or have had your feelings hurt, rather than address the problem or situation at hand. This is seen as cowardly or acting weak to the average "Fire Woman".

#2 You do not know how to say "NO", You are so benevolent, helpful, and eager to please people in your life, you will not stand up for yourself enough to just say "NO". This act alone causes you much due stress. You become overwhelmed by all the responsibilities placed on your shoulders and then it turns to bitterness or anger inside you. From a "Fire Woman's" perspective: How can you be depended on to provide protection and comfort in times of need while you've already given away all your time and energy to everyone else including every "damsel in distress" in town! This translates to you being and acting "weak".

#3 "Pisces Men" tend to be quite introverted, while "Fire Woman" tend to be quite extroverted. This difference alone makes the case to a fire woman. [The definition Introverted is; interest in ones self, turning inwardly, focusing on ones self, etc.]
To a "Fire Woman" this is viewed as "SELFISH" and selfish= weakness.

I hope this helps better explain the situation you face at hand?

This is the truth as I see it...

again, remember we are talking about 1/12th the population [Pisces] verses 1/5th [Fire Woman]

posted October 30, 2007 04:27 AM            

Sometimes fire girls (I’m an Aries btw) equate honesty to strength of character.. and dishonesty/lies to weakness of character.

They also equate – ability to express yourself verbally, in an eloquent/truthful/perfectly logical way – to strength.. and inability to express yourself - to being weak-willed.

Another thing is.. the ability to take action and achieve something – is seen as strong.. (by fire girls).. An inability to act or stagnating – instead of doing.. is seen as weak.

*Failing to argue* a point.. is seen as weak or mentally impaired.. either way.

In general, they dislike pouting, screeching and whining in men. They don’t like mothering their partner very much. Specially Aries – not into mothering.

It depends on the Piscean. The negatives of Pisces won’t be taken very well by fire signs.. but the negatives of fire girls won’t be taken very well by Pisceans either. I don’t think that’s news to anyone. It depends on how much you display the good in your nature, I guess.

posted October 30, 2007 04:30 AM              

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posted October 30, 2007 04:33 AM            

I think, it's only human to remember negative experiences in greater detail and for a longer time, than we do positive ones.

posted October 30, 2007 09:14 AM            

#2 You do not know how to say "NO", You are so benevolent, helpful, and eager to please people in your life, you will not stand up for yourself enough to just say "NO". This act alone causes you much due stress. You become overwhelmed by all the responsibilities placed on your shoulders and then it turns to bitterness or anger inside you. From a "Fire Woman's" perspective: How can you be depended on to provide protection and comfort in times of need while you've already given away all your time and energy to everyone else including every "damsel in distress" in town! This translates to you being and acting "weak".

#3 "Pisces Men" tend to be quite introverted, while "Fire Woman" tend to be quite extroverted. This difference alone makes the case to a fire woman. [The definition Introverted is; interest in ones self, turning inwardly, focusing on ones self, etc.]
To a "Fire Woman" this is viewed as "SELFISH" and selfish= weakness.

I hope this helps better explain the situation you face at hand?

This is the truth as I see it...

again, remember we are talking about 1/12th the population [Pisces] verses 1/5th [Fire Woman]"

posted October 30, 2007 10:13 AM            

I'm not a fire sign, but one of my best friends is an aries woman and she had one of her most intense relationships with a pisces. ( he had several pisces planets and not your aquarius energy though, so I'm always hesitant to generalize) However, I'm pretty sure she would have signed everything the other fire ladies said on your thread! She certainly had a very strong connection with him, but in the long run she couldnt look past his indesicion and avoidance behaviour.

posted October 30, 2007 11:26 AM            

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Both rulers of my Sun sign are in fire signs

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Pisces has two rulers? Are we talking about Jupiter?

posted October 30, 2007 11:45 AM            

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Hurtful memories always spring to mind first.

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And that's the main problem with people here in this thread or the forum itself for that matter. Labling by signs is about the same thing as trying to labling people by race, or gender for that matter. One size doesn't fits all and that's DEFINITELY true for astrological charts.

posted October 30, 2007 12:13 PM            

"Gems are this and Libras are that!" As if that is all what's there to define people. Yet no one takes into account their past dealings or psychological impacts.

posted October 30, 2007 01:58 PM            

I did not specifically say that this thread is DELIBERATELY pointing out main-stream traits of signs in a negitive way through personal POVs; It was as you said a specific question.

However, what I do refer to is the common bad habits of members here trying to put a subjective spin on what usually is an objective question and then firmly putting it up as facts where as they are nothing but subjective views.