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Topic: Demi Moore and Ashton Kutcher - no need for central heating
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darkdreamer unregistered
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posted August 26, 2008 08:51 AM
I looked at the important aspects between their charts. And seriously, the heat that must be generated between them is enough to provide a little country with energy! If they should ever decide to move to SCandinavia, they surely won`t need any central heating (but maybe something to coold them down at times): natal - natal (his planets first)
Sun square Sun Sun square Moon Sun square Venus Sun opposite Karma Moon square Sun Moon square Moon Moon square Venus Moon opposite Karma Venus square Sun Venus square Moon Venus square Venus Venus trine Psyche Venus trine IC (oh yes, they DO have some smooth aspects, too ) Mars trine Amor Mars square Psyche Mars trine AC Saturn trine MC Pluto sextile Mars and Karma NN trine Saturn Juno trine pluto Juno trine Juno Juno square Eros Karma trine Psyche Eros opposite Pluto Eros opposite Juno Psyche conjunct Sun Psyche oposite MOon Psyche conjunct Venus Psyche trine AC Psyche square Karma Anteros conjunct IC Anteros trine Psyche DC trine Mars AC square Juno DC trine Karma MC square Sun MC square Moon MC square Venus
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darkdreamer unregistered
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posted August 26, 2008 08:52 AM
Do you already feel the sparks? Well, wait until you see the Draco`s. There are the REAL sparks hidden, some kind of nuclear energy between them:dr Sun conjunct Mars dr Sun conjunct Valentine Moon conjunct dr IC dr MOon conjunct Mars dr Venus conjunct Mars dr Moon conjunct Karma dr Venus conjunct Karma dr Mars oposite drSun dr Mars conjunct dr Moon dr Mars opposite dr Venus dr Saturn conjunct dr IC Pluto opposite dr Karma dr Pluto oppoiste Eros dr Pluto opposite Anteros dr Pluto conjunct dr Mars dr Pluto conjunct dr VAlentine SN conjunct dr Mars SN conjunct dr Valentine - surely they didn`t encounter each other for the first time in this life; and it seems they brought some of the fire from a previous life into this one Chiron opposite dr Chiron dr Chiron conjunct Psyche Antivertex conjunct dr Pluto Antivertex conjunct dr Juno dr Antivertex conjunct dr Chiron dr Karma conjunct dr MC dr Valentine opposite der Eros dr Valentine opposite dr Anteros Amor conjunct dr IC dr Amor conjunct Mars dr Amor conjunct Valentine dr Eros opposite Chiron Psyche conjunct dr AC dr Psyche conjunct dr Juno Anteros conjunct dr Psyche dr DC conjunct dr Eros and dr Anteros dr MC conjunct dr IC dr MC conjunct Mars and Karma Phew, if I see those Pluto, Eros, Venus, Mars aspects, I wonder, if these two ever get out of bed. IP: Logged |
Lara unregistered
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posted August 26, 2008 09:10 AM
LOL you beat me to it!! I was slowly working my way through their huge wall of squares Yes, they are so interesting. IP: Logged |
Lara unregistered
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posted August 26, 2008 10:04 AM
Well l hate to be boring but l have just as good aspects with this guy i'm seeing, in the draco department.Check this out! His dr mars conjunct my dr venus EXACT His N mars trine my dr venus EXACT His dr venus conjunct my N venus EXACT His dr venus conjunct my n Pluto (1) His dr mars opposite my N eros EXACT His dr Pluto conjunct my N psyche His dr juno conjunct my N eros His dr valentine conjunct my N mars His dr mars opposite my N eros (0) My dr amor conjunct his N valentine His juno opposes my moon/venus/amor His karma conjunct my juno/karma His eros opposes my moon/venus/Saturn/NN/amor His eros square my valentine LOL i'm actually typing this from my bed
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darkdreamer unregistered
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posted August 26, 2008 10:27 AM
Lara,you`re so booring! *yawning: Just kidding. Really, you have awesome aspects. Mars / Venus Venus / Venus Venus / Pluto Karma / juno Eros / Venus Eros / NN Amor / Valentine Those are the ones I really really loved. That is so sexy. But you said you are in bed. May I ask if you`re alone or do you have nice company? And yes, I know that was an intrusive question, you don`t have to answer that one. I`m feeling a bit shaky right now, as I just felt the impact of a Psyche-Psyche-conjunction I guess. The thing is the guy I have this crush on (you know the singer) - no, I have to start at the other end. Some time ago I had a dream of him, and he asked me what I would like to see him in. And I half jokingly (because he is a bit young) said I would like to see him as Count Krolock in Dance of the vampires (I LOVE my vampires ); for him I would even watch it again, even though I have seen it on new year (yes exactly on new years eve. lol). But it was just a dream, a weird dream. And today when I came to school, there was an advertising for the new production of Dance of the vampires, which will take place near to the place I live (only 1 hour away), and they were offering a bustour for some classes with teacher to see the musical. This advertisement made me remember the musical, and I went to search for a cast list. It doesn`t exist yet. But you wjill never guess who is strongly rumoured to take over the role of the count, will you? LOL It would be so great, if he really had gotten that role! What a coincidence that would be! (WEll, he has at least been to the audition for this one; the decision is the producer`s). But this is, just, wow. IP: Logged |
Lara unregistered
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posted August 26, 2008 10:36 AM
OMG That vampire dream and then the production leaflet is just INSANE!!!! No wonder you are shakey.. l would be so freaked. Talk about synchronicity. I'm not really in bed... and in natal synastry we have all of the above draco aspects plus that DW eros/psyche. I am having to breathe a lot and take it really slowly because it is just so sexy it's ridiculous. Not sure it makes for any stability though IP: Logged |
darkdreamer unregistered
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posted August 26, 2008 11:13 AM
Who cares for stability, if she`s consumed by fire? (Let`s care for stability later... much later). Yes, it freaked me out big time, especially since last night I dreamed of the guy who had played Alfred in the version of Dance of the vampires I had seen, and I saw no particular reason why I should have been dreaming of him, as he doesn`t interest me even a little bit. lol But I had a look at the more intense aspects with my crush, too:
his Moon conjunct my Sun his Venus antiscia my Mars his Mars trine my Venus his Pluto square my Eros (0) (and his Eros exactly quinkunx my Pluto) his Eros square my Mars his Eros square my ASC his Psyche ocnjunct my Psyche (0) his Juno trine my Valentine (0) his Valentine trine my Juno - not really a juicy one, but I just adore that Valentine-Juno-dw, especially as it comes together with a Vertex-Valentine-dw. his VAlentine conjunct my Anteros (0) his Valentine trine my Eros his Anteros square my Eros his Anteros trine my Psyche his dr Sun opposite my dr Pluto his dr Sun conjunct my dr IC (0) his dr Moon opposite my dr Pluto his dr Moon conjunct my dr IC his dr Venus opposite my Lilith (0) his dr VEnus conjunct my dr Pluto his dr Mars opposite my Pluto (0) his dr Eros conjunct my Pluto - my Pluto is a bit very much involved here, isn`t he?
his dr Eros conjunct my dr Karma (0) his Eros conjunct my dr Anteros his dr Amor opposite my Pluto his dr Psyche opposite my dr Amor his Juno opposite my dr Pluto his dr VAlentine conjunct my Karma his AC conjunct my dr Mars his dr IC conjunct my dr Pluto (Poor guy, it seems my Pluto is aspecting all of his Sun, Moon, Venus, Mars, Eros, Amor, Juno and IC; my Pluto is even antiscia his DSC ). And as I mentioned my progressed Psyche is currently applying to an exact conjunction with his Eros. IP: Logged |
Lara unregistered
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posted August 26, 2008 11:19 AM
Who cares for stability, if she`s consumed by fire? I meant ME!!!!! lol
Your pluto is in danger of imploding all over him Nice aspects though.. the pr psyche conjuncting his (natal) eros is truly magical DD IP: Logged |
darkdreamer unregistered
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posted August 26, 2008 11:19 AM
There are also some aspects between Adonis and Venus / Aphrodite.My dr Venus conjuncts his dr Vertex, dr Aphrodite and dr Saturn and opposes his Adonis. As his and my Adonis are conjunct, my Adonis also opposes his dr Vertex, dr Aphrodite and dr Saturn.
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bvanzy unregistered
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posted August 26, 2008 11:33 AM
What is draco astrology/aspects? I've googled it but there's nothing really on it.IP: Logged |
darkdreamer unregistered
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posted August 26, 2008 11:47 AM
The Draconic chart is a NODAL chart. You can do it on astro.com. Just scroll down and choose the Draconic zodiac under options / zodiac.The Draco chart relates to spiritual, karmic and soulmate-connections, as it is closely connected to the NOdes. I even read somewhere that the Draconic zodiac may have been the very first zodiac in use, even before our WEstern tropical was created. You can see it even in a different light; the Nodes are the point where Sun and Moon come together and merge, and so the nodal or Draconic chart will reflect that polarity, too. Interestingly in the Draco chart there are often very intense connections in synastry, even if you can`t see it in the tropical.
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EighthMoon Knowflake Posts: 115 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 26, 2008 11:50 AM
OK...so you DID sign your class up for the bus tour, right??? 8th IP: Logged |
darkdreamer unregistered
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posted August 26, 2008 11:58 AM
Nope, it is in the middle of the week, and well maybe I`m going to ask my class. Or I am going on my own. Ah it`s not even sure he will actually GET the role. He`s quite some busy man right now. I guess Transit Saturn conjunct his Mars-Jupiter-conjunction in 6th house keeps him VERY busy professionally. not to mention that Transit Uranus on his ASC probably creates some chaos and havoc, and he doesn`t really know where his head is right now. I really feel for him, it`s not an easy time to go through, as Transit Saturn also will be conjunct his own Saturn and therefore squaring his Sun and Moon and MC in some weeks / months. And Pluto just came back to conjunct his Moon. I really hope he takes care of himself. I know how troublesome and weary SAturn can make you feel (Transit Saturn had been square my Mars and ASC and trine my Venus and currently he is squaring my NN and Neptune again - it`s such an OUCH aspect for me, gets me everytime- and when he is having his Saturn-Return I will be having Transit Saturn squaring my Sun and Mercury - so a bit of compassion for both of us please? ) IP: Logged |
bvanzy unregistered
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posted August 26, 2008 12:11 PM
Thanks darkdreamer, I'm having a look at that just now. It seems to have moved my planetary positions up approximately one sign.I wonder why astro.com put a 'warning:draco - do not proceed unless you know what you're doing' message?! IP: Logged |
darkdreamer unregistered
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posted August 26, 2008 12:25 PM
They put that message, because it`s not the usual zodiac most astrologers are working with.Is your nodal axis on Taurus / Scorpio or pisces / Virgo? That could be a reason for this. It means that your NN is about 30° away from 00° Aries. The aspects will all stay the same in your draco, but look for conjunctions and oppositions from your Draco to your natal. That is very enlightening stuff! Example: My Draco Moon falls onto my tropical SN and DC - and yes relationships ARE important to me, and a field of learning experiences. IP: Logged |
bvanzy unregistered
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posted August 26, 2008 12:43 PM
Nodal axis is Pisces/Virgo.Well my Draco chart gives me a nice Jupiter/Moon conjunction between the two charts - which is nice since my natal Jupiter is also my chartruler. Although it also makes my Draco Neptune conjunct my natal Ascendant. I was initially disappointed with some of the synastry aspects it gave me, but actually it's very interesting as the dynamics from the natal charts alone were a little too similar/cosy/comfy, now they are rocking hard. Oh dear. IP: Logged |
amowls Newflake Posts: 4 From: Falls Church, VA, USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 26, 2008 02:33 PM
I thought Ashton Kutcher's birthtime wasn't known?IP: Logged |
darkdreamer unregistered
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posted August 26, 2008 03:49 PM
Bvanzy,the conjunctions and oppositions will be the most important aspects between Draco-Draco and Draco-natal. And I have found some asteroids to be quite significant. And honestly, the Draco`s have never disappointed me yet. Not because they gave me what I WANTED to see, but because they described the dynamic between two persons very precisely (and they often startle me, too). IP: Logged |
darkdreamer unregistered
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posted August 26, 2008 03:52 PM
Amowls,I used the one they gave on vegaattractions. Of course it can be wrong, but it would makes sense since he has Neptune on his DSC, implying he is seeking some Neptune / Pisces in his partner, and Demi has a Pisces - ASC. I can also see the Gemini-ASC in him, but hmm, of course that is no proof. IP: Logged |
bvanzy unregistered
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posted August 26, 2008 03:54 PM
quote: And honestly, the Draco`s have never disappointed me yet. Not because they gave me what I WANTED to see, but because they described the dynamic between two persons very precisely (and they often startle me, too).
I've only been looking at them for a couple of hours and I'm hooked. I agree by the way on what you say above about truth.IP: Logged |
amowls Newflake Posts: 4 From: Falls Church, VA, USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 26, 2008 04:21 PM
DD, he might be a Cancer rising because my boyf looks a lot like him (he is a Pisces Sun, Leo Moon, Aqua Venus, Taurus Mars) and is a Cancer rising. No joke, every time we go out, complete strangers come up to him and say "WHOA you look EXACTLY like Ashton Kutcher."IP: Logged |
darkdreamer unregistered
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posted August 26, 2008 04:39 PM
Well, when I was on that site where you can look for the celebrities that resemble you most, I tried my whole family, and my brother had a high resemblance with Ashton, too.My bro has Pisces Sun and Pisces ASC; Moon-Jupiter-Uranus-conjunction in Sagittarius; Venus-Mars-conjunction in Aries. Funny though, my eldest friend (I Have known her for over 27 years now, since she was 3 years old) shares the birthday with AShton, day and year. And her (and his) Sun-Moon-Venus conjunction fall onto my Moon. I always thought that was very intersting. IP: Logged |
meta_4 Knowflake Posts: 1137 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 26, 2008 04:50 PM
Holy Crap! Looking at their placements i'm suprised they don't intensely dislike each other! They have such aggressive aspects! You weren't kidding, they don't need any heating when they're on FIIIIIRRRREEE!IP: Logged |
darkdreamer unregistered
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posted August 26, 2008 05:05 PM
I don`t think squares and oppositions necessarily lead to dislike. Squares are not called the "passion" aspect for nothing. ASpects relate to the intensity of the connection, but the connected planet actually decide over the quality of the connection. Of course squares are still challenging. But seriously, would YOU prefer an easygoing boring trine-relationship? Everything easy, breezy, noone to rescue or fight for. I`m not saying I WISH for those square aspects, but they are not as bad as all seem to think. Also, did you realize that Ashton`s Uranus, ruler of all his Aquarius-planets, is in Scorpio, the sign of her stellium? Seriously, I think it was the conjunctions, oppositions and squares that created the most buzz for me in my infatuations and attractions. As long as there is ALSO some common ground, the chemistry can be INSANE. Especially with the right planets involved. IP: Logged |
meta_4 Knowflake Posts: 1137 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 26, 2008 05:13 PM
I know they generate passion and intensity, which OF COURSE i like. I mean, have you met me? Of course i like 'em.But i've read so many times that Some serious issues of incompatibility can be found in aspects like Sun square Sun, Sun square Moon, Moon square Moon, Sun/Moon square Venus, Sun square Venus, Sun square Mars, etc. So i was just bringing that subject up. But you disagree? You think that they are manageable and not that difficult? I'm just curious for your opinion.. IP: Logged | |