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buena36
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posted October 27, 2008 05:10 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi to all,

I have read that when somebody has ruler of the 1st in 8th house he has life full of crisis. For me that is true, although my ruler is Venus. Venus has sextile with Mars, trine with Neptune and opposition with Lillith. Venus has also trine with Pholus. Not bad Venus but no big help.

Here is something about that ruler:
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Ruler of the 1st House in the 8th House

You are a person who readily sees that there is more to any person or situation than meets the eye. You are somewhat reserved, not fond of "posing", and you have a distinct disdain for all that is superficial. You have a mysterious, private, or sensual aura around you. You are not one to show off, and you seem to be content to be left alone--at least that's what others seem to read. Psychology appeals to you, you are generally quite hard-working, and you may spend much of your time researching and "digging". Sometimes this indicates an inheritance that transforms the life, or handling other people's money.

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I like all mysterious; esoteric; like reading about death; how people are going to die; life after death (if that is true?). I like black colour means what means black clothes.

What about you?

Buena

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posted October 27, 2008 05:28 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Something magical:
www.freewebs.com/astrochic/housesandrulers.htm - 19k

Rulers of the 1st in the houses:

Ruler of the 1st House in the 1st House

You want to create a distinct first impression on other people and the image you project is very important to you. There may be a strong resemblance to one of your grandparents.

Ruler of the 1st House in the 2nd House

You have a strong desire to accumulate possessions and earning your own money is important to you. What you have, materially speaking, influences your outlook on life. Creating your own sense of liberty and freedom largely depends on how well you handle your financial security issues.

Ruler of the 1st House in the 3rd House

You're curious about life and learning is important to you. You want to get your ideas noticed and communication is important to you.
There is a strong need to feel well integrated into your immediate community and you may make many short local trips.
You tend to have a lot of interest in your siblings if you have them and you identify strongly with close relatives in general.

Ruler of the 1st House in the 4th House

You may have a strong identification with your mother and/or your home and it's likely that your upbringing had a strong influence on you. You enjoy your privacy and the domestic scene in general. Inheritance in the form of real estate of some kind is a possibility, perhaps through a grandparent.

Ruler of the 1st House in the 5th House

You enjoy most forms of play and recreation. Love, love affairs and other social activities help to enhance a healthy self image.
There may also be a strong identification with children in general, even your own children. You are creative and you have the ability to hold the attention of an audience. Remember, you can't go wrong when you follow the dictates of your own heart.

Ruler of the 1st House in the 6th House

This chart factor indicates that you have a strong work ethic and you probably identify yourself by the work you are capable of doing. Health is important to you and very often your outlook on life affects your well-being. Avoid getting caught up in negative downward spirals. You are the type of person who can reap personal benefits from staying active and feeling useful. Your own cares and concerns will melt away when you find a way to become involved in helping others.

Ruler of the 1st House in the 7th House

The relationships that you form with other people, such as your marriage partner or best friends, will represent a high priority for you. Even though you make a strong impression on other people whether you're aware of it or not you really care about their opinions and their acceptance of you. Where diplomacy is a plus, you can teach others something about the fine art of cooperation. You'd make a fine counselor because of your ability to relate to other people.

Ruler of the 1st House in the 8th House

You may have a lot of curiosity about the so-called mysteries of life such as occult practices and other metaphysical studies. You can develop your psychic abilities or perhaps you are more drawn to the healing potential found in the eighth house.
You'll likely have an important experience that transforms your life approach in a major way. Whatever it is, you'll emerge more evolved at a very deep level of your being. Other people's resources, such as a spouse's money, or an inheritance, could play a significant role in your life somehow.

Ruler of the 1st House in the 9th House

You have a strong interest in broadening your mental experiences, perhaps through higher education, exploring different philosophies of life, or even through developing your own ideas about what makes the universe tick. Be ready to do some long distance traveling during your life. It's in the stars.

Ruler of the 1st House in the 10th House

Whatever career you end up in, it's one that you feel a strong sense of identity with. You may also have a strong identity with your father, or perhaps just authority figures in general. You have an enhanced sense of duty and responsibility, which accounts for your sometimes very serious outlook on life. People know this and they don't mind handing over the controls to you when the time comes.

Ruler of the 1st House in the 11th House

Your friends, acquaintances and other large groups of people will play important roles in your life overall. Humanitarian pursuits and organizations dedicated to some kind of wide-scale social change may become significant to you also. You may strongly identify with those things that are considered to be ahead of the times, or with anything that breaks with societal traditions.

Ruler of the 1st House in the 12th House

Your outlook on life can be brought into balance by spending some time alone to meditate and recharge your batteries.
Avoid becoming your own adversary by falling into the "woe is me" victim trap. Spiritual philosophies that go beyond traditional orthodox viewpoints can bring revealing insights into your life and the meaning of it all. You may identify somehow with large public institutions that provide a service to society, especially the helping professions.

Buena

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posted October 27, 2008 05:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for alcheme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The ruler of my Asc is Saturn, and it is in my 8th house (just went through my first Saturn return). Though I don't always like it, I have found that the slow and steady course is the most "profitable" for me, as things considered.

Being both a hard house and a hard chart ruler, I have found my fair share of pitfalls as time has progressed. Hopefully, I am currently on a good path with few of them in my way now that I have survived my first Saturn Return...


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Sun: Scorpio
Moon: Gemini
Asc: Capricorn

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posted October 27, 2008 06:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ruler of the 1st House is Pluto, who lives in the 10th House, conjunct the Moon.

I'd say I couldn't care less about my career but actually I am quite fussy and idealistic about what I do.

Serious, responsible, the person who gets the controls and organises everything, yes, that's me, spot on. The Conjunction is Trine Saturn which only reinforces the whole thing, really.

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posted October 27, 2008 07:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tigerlily     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aqua Rising here so the ruler of my 1st House is Uranus in the 8th. I also have Jupiter and Pluto in the 8th.

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Ruler of the 1st House in the 8th House

You are a person who readily sees that there is more to any person or situation than meets the eye. You are somewhat reserved, not fond of "posing", and you have a distinct disdain for all that is superficial. You have a mysterious, private, or sensual aura around you. You are not one to show off, and you seem to be content to be left alone--at least that's what others seem to read. Psychology appeals to you, you are generally quite hard-working, and you may spend much of your time researching and "digging". Sometimes this indicates an inheritance that transforms the life, or handling other people's money.


Very true for me, all of it.

quote:
Ruler of the 1st House in the 8th House

You may have a lot of curiosity about the so-called mysteries of life such as occult practices and other metaphysical studies. You can develop your psychic abilities or perhaps you are more drawn to the healing potential found in the eighth house.
You'll likely have an important experience that transforms your life approach in a major way. Whatever it is, you'll emerge more evolved at a very deep level of your being. Other people's resources, such as a spouse's money, or an inheritance, could play a significant role in your life somehow.


Again, very true for me. And I have a sizable inheritance that has made it possible for me not to ever have to work (unless I choose to work - which I do, as an artist/painter/photographer and metaphysical jewelry designer).

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quote:
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Ruler of the 1st House in the 8th House

You are a person who readily sees that there is more to any person or situation than meets the eye. You are somewhat reserved, not fond of "posing", and you have a distinct disdain for all that is superficial. You have a mysterious, private, or sensual aura around you. You are not one to show off, and you seem to be content to be left alone--at least that's what others seem to read. Psychology appeals to you, you are generally quite hard-working, and you may spend much of your time researching and "digging". Sometimes this indicates an inheritance that transforms the life, or handling other people's money.

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I like all mysterious; esoteric; like reading about death; how people are going to die; life after death (if that is true?). I like black colour means what means black clothes.


Cancer rising, moon in pisces in 8th house here. My answer is "yes", to everything above. I also like wearing black clothes, accessories and jewelry (onyx).. and I dislike pastels.

quote:
Ruler of the 1st House in the 8th House

You may have a lot of curiosity about the so-called mysteries of life such as occult practices and other metaphysical studies. You can develop your psychic abilities or perhaps you are more drawn to the healing potential found in the eighth house.
You'll likely have an important experience that transforms your life approach in a major way. Whatever it is, you'll emerge more evolved at a very deep level of your being. Other people's resources, such as a spouse's money, or an inheritance, could play a significant role in your life somehow.


True again.

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Sun [also ASC ruler] in H8 squ. Uranus, inconj. asc, trine pluto and sextile Neptune. I agree with most of the statements. No inheritance here, though. I think a key word here is "upheaval"

edit: ive also had some spooky encounters with the other side: one ghost [spirit, an older lady, sounded like she was in her 50s] saved my life [or at least limb] once when she told me to stop at a green light in an intersection, heard her voice so clear..and it was - there was a car that turned so fast in front of me with no blinker onto an on-ramp and there were no other cars around. another spirit, ghost, what-have-you he [30's or so, dark hair] touched my left shoulder with his right hand, laying down finger by finger [starting with pinky] i guess so as not to startle me. there are others but those are the ones that stand out. wonder if there'll be more?

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posted October 28, 2008 03:54 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Tigerlily,

Thank you for reply.

All here is right for me, except inheritance (my ruler of 8th in 8th means delay of inheritance).

-------Ruler of the 1st House in the 8th House
You are a person who readily sees that there is more to any person or situation than meets the eye. You are somewhat reserved, not fond of "posing", and you have a distinct disdain for all that is superficial. You have a mysterious, private, or sensual aura around you. You are not one to show off, and you seem to be content to be left alone--at least that's what others seem to read. Psychology appeals to you, you are generally quite hard-working, and you may spend much of your time researching and "digging". Sometimes this indicates an inheritance that transforms the life, or handling other people's money.-------------

Buena

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Taurus Sun
Pisces Moon
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I have it too!
For me its terrible because I have sun in Leo and Moon in Sagitarius. When I was younger I was very open, competitive, more Leo like. Now I wish to present my self as Leo, but something is just pulling me back. Maybe my Cappy ASC?

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This explains why I feel like my Leo rising gets hidden a bit. I have my Pisces stellium (sun, moon, mercury in 8th trining Pluto). Internally I feel like a Leo rising but outwardly I am a bit reserved. Sometimes if I want to I can really pull out the Leo rising and be the star, but I get uncomfortable if too much of the spotlight is on me. My family knows me as being loud and bold and funny but with the majority of everyone else I am more inwardly. Not to say I’m shy, because I don’t view myself as shy. I just pick and choose the outgoing side or introverted side based on my mood and the environment around me at the time.

I freaking love researching and finding out new things. Give me a project to plan! I will research everything until the cows come home, happily. I also think psychology is the most fascinating subject. I study people as a second nature, I observe them and study their interactions with others. I like the true crime tv shows, but I can’t watch more than one in a row because all my Pisces-ness gets upset and then my Leo rising kicks in and I have to see the world as a happy optimistic place in order to feel comfortable again.

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quote:
Originally posted by buena36:
Something magical:
www.freewebs.com/astrochic/housesandrulers.htm - 19k

Rulers of the 1st in the houses:

Ruler of the 1st House in the 1st House

You want to create a distinct first impression on other people and the image you project is very important to you. There may be a strong resemblance to one of your grandparents.

Ruler of the 1st House in the 2nd House

You have a strong desire to accumulate possessions and earning your own money is important to you. What you have, materially speaking, influences your outlook on life. Creating your own sense of liberty and freedom largely depends on how well you handle your financial security issues.

Ruler of the 1st House in the 3rd House

You're curious about life and learning is important to you. You want to get your ideas noticed and communication is important to you.
There is a strong need to feel well integrated into your immediate community and you may make many short local trips.
You tend to have a lot of interest in your siblings if you have them and you identify strongly with close relatives in general.

Ruler of the 1st House in the 4th House

You may have a strong identification with your mother and/or your home and it's likely that your upbringing had a strong influence on you. You enjoy your privacy and the domestic scene in general. Inheritance in the form of real estate of some kind is a possibility, perhaps through a grandparent.

Ruler of the 1st House in the 5th House

You enjoy most forms of play and recreation. Love, love affairs and other social activities help to enhance a healthy self image.
There may also be a strong identification with children in general, even your own children. You are creative and you have the ability to hold the attention of an audience. Remember, you can't go wrong when you follow the dictates of your own heart.

Ruler of the 1st House in the 6th House

This chart factor indicates that you have a strong work ethic and you probably identify yourself by the work you are capable of doing. Health is important to you and very often your outlook on life affects your well-being. Avoid getting caught up in negative downward spirals. You are the type of person who can reap personal benefits from staying active and feeling useful. Your own cares and concerns will melt away when you find a way to become involved in helping others.

Ruler of the 1st House in the 7th House

The relationships that you form with other people, such as your marriage partner or best friends, will represent a high priority for you. Even though you make a strong impression on other people whether you're aware of it or not you really care about their opinions and their acceptance of you. Where diplomacy is a plus, you can teach others something about the fine art of cooperation. You'd make a fine counselor because of your ability to relate to other people.

Ruler of the 1st House in the 8th House

You may have a lot of curiosity about the so-called mysteries of life such as occult practices and other metaphysical studies. You can develop your psychic abilities or perhaps you are more drawn to the healing potential found in the eighth house.
You'll likely have an important experience that transforms your life approach in a major way. Whatever it is, you'll emerge more evolved at a very deep level of your being. Other people's resources, such as a spouse's money, or an inheritance, could play a significant role in your life somehow.

Ruler of the 1st House in the 9th House

You have a strong interest in broadening your mental experiences, perhaps through higher education, exploring different philosophies of life, or even through developing your own ideas about what makes the universe tick. Be ready to do some long distance traveling during your life. It's in the stars.

Ruler of the 1st House in the 10th House

Whatever career you end up in, it's one that you feel a strong sense of identity with. You may also have a strong identity with your father, or perhaps just authority figures in general. You have an enhanced sense of duty and responsibility, which accounts for your sometimes very serious outlook on life. People know this and they don't mind handing over the controls to you when the time comes.

Ruler of the 1st House in the 11th House

Your friends, acquaintances and other large groups of people will play important roles in your life overall. Humanitarian pursuits and organizations dedicated to some kind of wide-scale social change may become significant to you also. You may strongly identify with those things that are considered to be ahead of the times, or with anything that breaks with societal traditions.

Ruler of the 1st House in the 12th House

Your outlook on life can be brought into balance by spending some time alone to meditate and recharge your batteries.
Avoid becoming your own adversary by falling into the "woe is me" victim trap. Spiritual philosophies that go beyond traditional orthodox viewpoints can bring revealing insights into your life and the meaning of it all. You may identify somehow with large public institutions that provide a service to society, especially the helping professions.

Buena


cant really agree with this

my 1st house ruler is conjunct my ascendant (it's my 8th house ruler too, libra ascendant) and i wouldnt say my image was important to me so much as it is to other people and helps me get by

im mostly indifferent

i dont particularly look like any of my grandparents either

interesting though

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Yes. For me too.
MIy life has been a lot like a ride at the state fair. I never liked that term 'drama queen' much but it hit to close,I suppose that is why.

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I have a Libra Ascendant with Taurus Venus in the 8th. My Venus is unaspected by major aspect, but lots of very exact minor ones.

My life is not full of crisis. Very little drama actually... But there are certainly lots of 8th house themes otherwise. Venus in my chart seems to be less about love and romance and more about taste/beauty/arts... And my tastes definitely run in an 8th house direction.

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Originally posted by buena36:
Ruler of the 1st House in the 8th House

You are a person who readily sees that there is more to any person or situation than meets the eye. You are somewhat reserved, not fond of "posing", and you have a distinct disdain for all that is superficial. You have a mysterious, private, or sensual aura around you. You are not one to show off, and you seem to be content to be left alone--at least that's what others seem to read. Psychology appeals to you, you are generally quite hard-working, and you may spend much of your time researching and "digging". Sometimes this indicates an inheritance that transforms the life, or handling other people's money.


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Originally posted by buena36:
Ruler of the 1st House in the 8th House

You may have a lot of curiosity about the so-called mysteries of life such as occult practices and other metaphysical studies. You can develop your psychic abilities or perhaps you are more drawn to the healing potential found in the eighth house.
You'll likely have an important experience that transforms your life approach in a major way. Whatever it is, you'll emerge more evolved at a very deep level of your being. Other people's resources, such as a spouse's money, or an inheritance, could play a significant role in your life somehow.


The above descriptions are also pretty spot on! Even down to the inheritance. When I was 2 years old my grand uncle committed suicide and left everything he owned to me. It was not a big inheritance by any means, but it is a gift that keeps giving, to this day, almost 30 years later.

I feel like my 8th house Taurus Venus defines me and my life in many ways. It is down to earth and mysterious at the same time, equally in tune with decadence and decay, grounded yet intense, indolent but focused... It's all paradoxical dichotomies and I definitely vibe with that!

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Ruler of 1st in 8th can make people around them uncomfortable. They are not likely to be the type to keep up pretenses and can be quite confrontational or unintentionally invasive(unless the ruler is mitigated by other factors).

And because the ruler of the 1st house is in 8th, their life or health can face extremes or point of crises. This is because 1st is 6 houses from the 8th.

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Well-said.

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Alan Oken (c2000,2008).
Rulers of the Horoscope- Finding Your Way Through the Labyrinth.

Ruling Planets in the Houses--
The energy of the ruling planet to express itself..

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Ruler of Asc/1st House in the EIGHTH HOUSE
Pages 100-101

.. as the need to transform the nature of the personality
so that it is better-equipped for more refined and powerful creative possibilities.

An Eighth House ruler is quite the test!
It tells the astrologer that the individual has to undergo many crises of transformation in order to give birth to his or her greater good.

This definitely involves the transmutation of the part of the nature that is signified by the planetary ruler.

If it is an afflicted MOON in this position,
then unhealthy attachments to one's biological karma (and most specifically, one's mother), have got to go.

If it is VENUS,
then our relationship with money
or the motivations we have in creating relationship
(especially if Venus is in a cardinal sign)
have to be profoundly altered, etc.

If the RULER is well-placed and free of affliction in the Eighth House,
the job may have already been accomplished,
and the individual has an incredibly powerful tool to help others do the same.
Certainly one's sexuality will play a very important role in life.
Sexuality is important in all lives,
but in this case,
the focus on the nature of one's sexual expression,
and the social dynamics that come as a result of fulfilling one's sexual needs,
will be a dominant life theme.

example
Leo rising with the Sun in Pisces, in the Eighth,
is an immediate indication of a person with enormous passion.
The release of such passions, purely for the sake of personal pleasure and relationship dominance (a very Eighth House theme), may easily lead to that individual's 'self-undoing'.
Yet if the compassionate and healing nature of the Fish is developed,
the transformative magnetism of an Eighth House Sun as ruler, can endow this same individual with a very loving and embracing nature.
Such qualities may even be expressed sexually,
but the orientation within that sexuality will not be selfish,
but instead will bestow vitality and upliftment
to both oneself and one's partner.

The key to the right use of energy when the ruler of the chart is in the Eighth House, also includes the transformation of other people's resources.

For instance,
a strong Jupiter in the Eighth as the ruler,
may be an excellent indication of a person who can,
through a keen eye for investments,
make money for other people.

Jupiter here can also reorient a person's philosophical or religious leanings,
bringing universality where prejudice, or at the very least, where narrow-mindedness, once reigned.

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Placement-- Sagittarius Rising Chart.
Jupiter Cancer 27+ in 8th House, Cancer Cusp.
Jupiter sextiles Moon Virgo interc 9th
Jupiter conjuncts Uranus Cancer/F.S.Procyon
Jupiter square Neptune r Libra H10

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