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Nephthys
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posted April 16, 2002 10:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nephthys     Edit/Delete Message
Hi! I was wondering what everyone thought about this? Does the Soul Choose to get Cancer before incarnation? My boss has Cancer and it has spread throughout her abdomen and has most recently spread into her liver and lungs. I just heard on the news that Robert Urich died today of Cancer. Does every single person/Soul who gets Cancer on earth, did the Soul choose it prior to incarnation? I know some of us believe that the Soul chooses all of it's lessons, or most of it's lessons. But so many people are getting Cancer these days; so many strong, good people. It's strange. But our food and water could be so contaminated; we were born of natural bodies, yet we touch cleaning products that are toxic, we don't always eat organic food, our earth is very polluted. What do you think?

Thanks for any kind replies

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Randall
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posted April 16, 2002 11:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Great question! I'll have to ponder this a while before answering.

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Spiritua
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posted April 17, 2002 12:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spiritua     Edit/Delete Message
I kNOW this is off topic and doesn't quite answer your question, but what were the higher-ups THINKING when they decided to name a disease after the lovable Sun Sign Cancer?! SOMEONE was spiritually colour-blind!

I firmly believe that we choose all our physical, spiritual, mental and emotional ailments before we live so that we can learn to cope with illusion and come back to naturality in a way that isn't too easy for the individual Soul, but that isn't too hard for them to handle either. Just enough so the soul will be moderately challenged.

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Novalee
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posted April 17, 2002 05:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Novalee     Edit/Delete Message
Nephthys – What a great Question.

I Believe things are chosen before we are born, but also that we create as we go along our journey, called Life.

I Believe we choose experiences for ourselves to Learn, Grow, So that we can move further along our Soul’s progress.

About dis-ease – I believe this is what happens when there is a ‘dis-ease’ in the Mind; your negative thoughts, beliefs, energies, And I also believe ‘dis-ease’ manifests when You resist Change, Growth, Healing, Learning, when You're meant to Be doing that. First, Your Inner whisperings that guide You to expansion start as just that. If You have the 'Ear' to hear, You learn how to Heal, and move on to Your next experience. But if You do not, when You continue to resist your inner voice, your inner urgings to Grow! Learn! Heal!the 'whispers' manifest as something LOUDER. Sometimes, these manifestations are dis-ease, something physical in Your body, so that You can see it clearly.

In this case, the focus is on cancer. I Believe dis-ease to represent “sickness of mind” – In the way One may hold on to Resentment, Bitterness, Unforgiveness from our past experiences. As You All know, these things stifle our Expansion and Learning, and close our Souls up from it self. It eats away at you, like cancer eats away at the body, doesn’t it? I Believe the dis-ease and effect of cancer to be symbolic of this.

I’ve read about people who healed their cancer, aids … many types of dis-ease. They faced their issues, learned, forgave …

They reversed the downward spiral of stagnation and decay .. And started to spiral back Upwards, into Living!!

Let go, forgive!
Grow, and LIVE!

These people used lots of (light)too in their Healing.

But !!! What do you think was the most important thing???

Spiritua – I think someone may have actually been clever to name a dis-ease with something that answers it-self …
You said Yourself are the “most loveable Sun Sign” … LOVEable:love

LOVE IS ALWAYS the most important, and was most important in their healings. I don’t know much about Star Signs, (just a smidgeon ) but I think I know are related to (:moon emotions. And as I just wrote, I believe cancer manifests out of one’s stifling of emotions, holding resentment, holding on to that which brings about the dis-ease. And as I’ve pointed out, it’s the free-flowing of emotions , and energies... that heals cancer.
Most important of all, LOVE allows us to heal and to GROW. And don’t you think that’s clever? that in naming ‘cancer’ may cause one to reflect upon it, as you had, Spiritua, and help us to see the Solution within that - the clues about the emotions, and the LOVE.....

Novalee


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posted April 17, 2002 09:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spiritua     Edit/Delete Message

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Nephthys
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posted April 17, 2002 10:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nephthys     Edit/Delete Message
Dear Spiritua and Novalee,

I *TOTALLY* agree with what both of you said! This is exactly the type of answers I was looking for!

I know Louise Hay teaches/believes that cancer is manifested due to holding "things" inside, like negative thoughts, worries, or grudges, etc.

Ok, so we know that Cancer is manifested due to holding negativities inside, and/or the Soul chose it. But some of the people who have Cancer don't even know this. What about animals? A lot of animals get cancer.

Thanks again for your lovely replies!

*Happiness*Love*Fun*Peace*Charm* ~~~~~~~~~~~

and all Good things Over the Rainbow

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posted April 18, 2002 08:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
I don't think animals in the wild get cancer. I'm pretty sure only those in captivity do. So, some would say that diet plays a major role (when animals eat things they are not biologically adapted to). But I think that's false. I think animals in zoos, labs, and circuses get cancer because, like many humans, they are sad, depressed, and unhappy in their lonely confined spaces. I also think pets get cancer due to Loving us and absorbing our negative thoughts and emotions for us in order to protect us. Just my humble ONION.

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Nephthys
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posted April 18, 2002 03:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nephthys     Edit/Delete Message
Dear Randall,

I agree with what you said.
Commercial dog and cat food is made out of slaughterhouse waste; feet, beeks, feathers of chickens, and discarded animals and or parts who are "rejected" due to disease, etc. Most people don't know this. So I believe that's why domesticated dogs and cats get cancer (from eating cheap dog and cat food made out of slaughterhouse waste).
*If* wild animals get cancer, it could also be due to polluted and/or contaminated water and land.
It's sad if they develope it from being confined in zoos and such, like you said!

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posted April 19, 2002 08:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Virgo Rising     Edit/Delete Message
Nephy...what do you feed your critters? I am currently cooking ground turkey and mixed veggies for my dog, but I've been curious about vegetarian dog food. My dog won't eat just dry food...she'll eat out of the trash can instead which I know she doesn't really want to do but she's starving. Since I started making her food, she's lost weight (good thing) and stays out of the trash.

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posted April 20, 2002 08:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks, Nephthys.

Cats are carnivores, but dogs are not. Dogs can do very well on a vegetarian diet; in fact, an all-meat diet is actually harmful to dogs.

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Nephthys
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posted April 20, 2002 11:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nephthys     Edit/Delete Message
HI Virgo and Randall,

WEll, I agree with Randall, cats are carnivores. I also used to think it was okay for dogs to be only vegetarian too, but then I remembered they have those canine teeth. Their teeth are like cats, they have the sharp pointy ones to rip flesh. So I think dogs in the wild eat small game like birds, fowl, and other small critters.
I fed my cats Iams until Yoda developed his stomach/bowel/vomiting problems and now he has to eat special diet you can only buy at the Vet. He eats a wet diet only now; Rabbit and Green Pea limited ingredient diet. It's IV brand I think.
I feed Hope Iams dry kibble, mixed with chopped raw organic veggies, brown rice, and 1-2 Tablespoons of canned wet Iams.
I buy her dog biscuits which are Peanut Butter and Molasses, wheat flour, eggs, etc. They are actually human grade ingredients. She also gets veggies and fruits as snacks. I think she never ate veggies and fruits in her life before, because she always acts like it's "new" when she tries one I never gave her before.

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posted April 20, 2002 08:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
How synchronistic! I'm watching a special on dogs right now! They are descended from wolves. At some point in time, wolves overcame their natural fear of humans and began hanging around humans to get our food scraps. Over time, those wolves evolvd into the modern day dog. Dogs are omnivores. Their fangs are a throwback to their wolf days. Of course, they can eat meat easily, just as they can eat other stuff. The majority of dogs in other parts of the world are not pets. They are tolerated by humans much like we allow pigeons to live among us. They hang around and are ignored, but they eat what they can scavenge. Sad. But they seem to like the freedom.

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Nephthys
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posted April 20, 2002 09:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nephthys     Edit/Delete Message
Wow, that's neat! And how synchronistic! What channel was it on? Discovery or Animal Planet, etc.?

A lady told me once that she feeds her dog a raw diet, raw bones, raw meat, and raw veggies, because dogs in the wild eat raw food. It makes sense! Dogs don't cook their meat or grubs! She believes her dog will live longer than average. I'm just not ready to feed mine raw chicken/meat, though. I'll just stick with Iams and veggies and rice.

btw, did you change your e-mail addy?

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Randall
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posted April 21, 2002 08:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
It was on the Discovery Channel. I think she is correct. In the wild, no animal cooks meat. Heat destroys the nutritive value, especially the amino acids. The same goes for humans, too! We should eat only raw fruits, vegetables, nuts, and seeds. Of course, cooked food tastes so yummy!

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posted April 21, 2002 08:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Also, at some point in time, dogs endeared themselves to humans. Their secret weapon? Cute little puppies!

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