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Scorpionic Web
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posted December 29, 2005 02:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scorpionic Web     Edit/Delete Message
A Scorpio/Pisces combination... Any thoughts on these charts, below?. I see so much in this girl, on that ethereal, spiritual level that I so badly desire.

We have that 5-9 Water "short-wave radio" connection Linda talked about. When her and I are in the same room I feel her spirit all around me. She does something to me. Its unspeakable. We've been friends for 5 or 6 years, and time has had a cascading effect on my feelings towards her. I always thought she was one of the most beautiful women I've ever laid eyes on, but the more I spend time with her, the more I've become seduced by her Pisces mysticism and femininity. Now I think about her quite often. I'm in a casual, monogamous relationship with a Sagittarius, and my Sag realizes that she isn't meant for me, but seems to want to stick around, while it does last.

But regarding the Pisces girl, her Pisces Sun and Libra Moon make her to be quite a flopping Fish. She seems terribly indecisive, compounded by having been burned in so many love affairs. I'm afraid she may become a lesbian. I still have hope in this girl. Something profoundly psychic tells me so.

My chart-
Sun- Scorpio- 4th house
Moon- Libra- 3rd house
Merc- Scorpio- 4th house
Venus- Scorpio- 4th house
Mars- Capricorn- 5th/6th house
Jupiter- Scorpio- 4th house
Saturn- Libra- 3rd house
Uranus- Sagittarius- 5th house
Neptune- Sagittarius- 5th house
Pluto- Libra- 3rd house
*ASC- Leo

Hers-
Sun-Pisces-4th house
Moon-Libra-11th house
Mercury-Aquarius-3rd house
Venus-Aries-5th house
Mars-Aries-5th house
Jupiter- Sagittarius- 1st house
Saturn- Scorpio- 12th house
Uranus- Sagittarius- 1st house
Neptune- Sagittarius- 2nd house
Pluto- Libra- 12th house
*ASC- Scorpio

Composite-
Sun- Capricorn- 4th house
Moon- Libra- 1st house
Mercury- Capricorn- 4th house
Venus- Aquarius- 4th house
Mars- Aquarius- 5th house
Jupiter- Sagittarius- 3rd house
Saturn- Scorpio- 2nd house
Uranus- Sagittarius- 3rd house
Neptune- Sagittarius- 3rd house
Pluto- Libra- 2nd house
*ASC- Libra

So it looks like some positive and some negative to me...

My Sun (and my Merc, Venus, Jupiter) in her Asc.

My Asc squares her Asc.

Sun trines Sun.

Both of our Suns are in the 4th house.

Our moons are conjunct in Libra

My Moon opposes her Venus/Mars.

My Mars squares her Moon, Venus and Mars

It goes on...

So, astro.com only pointed out our 4th house composite Sun, 4th house composite Venus and 1st house composite Moon, mentioning that these are all fantastic aspects for love, intimacy, understanding, the home, and marriage. It said nothing on possible negatives.

Anyway, her and I are sort of in a circle of friends, and its really been because of inner-circle politics that I've avoided her. None of the people in this group of friends have ever dated each other and to attempt anything with her would stir a lot of water (pardon the pun), and potentially anger a few people for ruining the happy, stable circle...

(Just for fun- what I found interesting about my composite chart with this girl, is how it is almost identical to the chart of the girl who introduced the two of us. The exceptions being the moon and mercury.)

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pixelpixie
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posted December 29, 2005 05:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message
It actually sounds like a really full of love union to me.
Seems you already know this.

BTW I am also a fourth house Sun Scorpio.
Welcome, if I hadn't said it before.

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Scorpionic Web
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posted December 30, 2005 03:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scorpionic Web     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah, what worries me are the Aries-Mars and Scorpio Ascendent in her chart.

This Aries-Mars (especially in the 5th house) and Scorpio-Asc placement tell me that this woman would intensely pursue a love interest. But this is in conflict with her Pisces Sun and Libra Moon. Like I said, she acts VERY indecisively. She seems to have low self-esteem, and she always lacks eye contact with everyone.

It's almost ridiculous how I disregard these telepathic signals her and I send each other. I have to trust my instincts, but its tough when friendships (and not only our own) are on the line. With past experiences of mixing love and friendship, I'm all too scared of losing another person who understood me so well...

Its really fascinating to witness zodiac opposites. With my Virgo experience, where the words flowed with such clarity and ease without planting any subconscious vibes, life with the Pisces is so unspoken, yet equally as clarified, with us often acting in unison. With our 5-9 water trine sensing it and conjunct Libra Moons solidifying it, I know exactly how her emotions are going to be stirred. We laugh the same way when life becomes ironic, become teary-eyed and choked up the same way when life becomes magical and intense, and angered in the same manner way when we feel slighted or see an injustice. But with all of this apparent understanding, I'm afraid that I may be misleading myself, as it could be merely her Scorpio Ascendent throwing my Scorpio Sun for a loop.

I guess thats why I feel I need astrological assistance with her more than any girl I've previously been concerned with. Maybe its each of our 4th house Suns talking, but I feel "home" when I'm with her.

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posted January 01, 2006 01:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sthenri     Edit/Delete Message
That 4th house pull is very powerful I know. I went for a Gemini with that and normally gemini and I do not go for each other.

One thing-not meeting your eyes is not a sign of low self esteem, that is your thought not hers. So simplifying a bit-you are the one who has low self esteem around your pisces because you are feeling that way these days around her. It' not your fault, it's just good to acknowledge that you are not happy currently and it's not her issue.

I never meet a man's eyes when I know he is in predator mode-coming on to me, and she is able to tell what you feel right away. Another thing-take what you hear with a grain of salt, get to know the real woman, not the mystery and listen with an open mind and heart to the flaws, the good and the ugly. Let her know you want to know her as a friend, no ulterior motives and she will respect you. Staring her down makes your motives clear.

You don't mean to do it, and I know it's hard but I practice looking at what a person is doing and smiling, rather than staring.

I have similar placements to your pisces and get burned a lot, but I ended those relationships so there was a lot of drama. When the man ends it, there is no drama. Most likely she ended things emotionally impulsively which for her is the best thing. It does not make a woman unhappy, in fact we are molded by what we reject.

I can see that you are really unhappy with the Sag as you feel it's going nowhere. In contrast there is this unavailable woman near you. It's no mystery, she represents the excitement that is missing from your relationship. After all, you put in the work, where is the reward you brain is telling you?

Most likely it's good to come across as single because it takes more effort. Confront the Sag and ask what is going on with the attitude that you are not good enough. Does she want you? If not then be emotional, go with your heart, if it seems you will NEVER be good enough for more than this, and your heart is unhappy tell her so. Do not mention any one else or wanting to look around. Make it clear you want her to be happy, or to be single, one or the other.

And you are not going to stand still even if she wants it like this.

If you were a woman, and your Sag was a man, I would say he was using you to keep from facing the real world. That's harsh but as a friend I am telling you Sags can sometimes want to escape to a better world in their minds, and so do not accept what they have can be good enough. To be her friend kick her in the rear a little so she knows what she has is special, otherwise you may have to lose her for a while or at least start tapering off, however you want to do it.

I find treating your loved ones like friends, expecting the same respect you would expect from a same sex friend, is the best way to start making things better in your life.
This attitude works well if you are a water or earth sign because we have a tough time being detached around someone who is attractive.

Take Care,
Natasha
Taurus
Mars Sag/conjunct Ascendant

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Scorpionic Web
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posted January 01, 2006 07:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scorpionic Web     Edit/Delete Message
Wow, thats mighty presumptuous. I don't know how you came to a "predator mode" designation for me, but thats all wrong. I don't "come on" to women. Flirting is naive, let alone when you have an established friendship with someone you deeply respect. I simply don't flirt or make any insinuations to any girl I've ever been with or desired.

Her merely sensing my attraction is a far cry from me actually coming on to her or ever giving her any real reason to believe whatever theories I might've subconsciously implanted in her. I don't stare her down, and she knows me well; much better than to ever think of me as a predator. I've been her friend long enough to know that she does indeed have low self-esteem. My confidence is not the issue. I know I want her, and I'm confident that, given the chance, I could give her what she is looking for. I'm not blind nor egotistical. There are few women who really interest me, and likely just as few that I interest. I know the chances of true love in this world are cruelly low, but it doesn't stop me from pursuing what I believe.

I'm involved with the Sag simply for shameless fun and sex, my Sag knows this and accepts this. This Sag could be in love with me for all I know. We don't talk about our feelings, and thats what I prefer with her, but I put my cards on the table long ago and give her nothing to be confused about. I would never cheat on any girl, and as long as she knows how I feel, then I've done all I can. Am I using her if it is a two-way street? I see her as a fun time on the path to learning about what I really want from a woman.

The Pisces knows how I feel about this Sag and how this relationship is, and how I very much want something else, entirely. I've never misled a woman, and never have I felt the need to.

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posted January 02, 2006 05:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scorpionic Web     Edit/Delete Message
Anyway, I can't figure out what this Fish wants. She can be so intriguing in her aloofness and I can't begin to assess where I stand with her. Astrology is in our favor, but it seems astrology often can't account for sheer physical attraction, and as well as we tune in to each other emotionally, I sometimes fear she simply isn't physically attracted to me. Its not a lack of confidence, its just facing the likelihood of the situation.

She feels so right. It hurts, but I think I should just try to forget about her.

Thanks to those who replied to this thread.

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posted January 03, 2006 11:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for noreenz     Edit/Delete Message
Well sir, you don't know until you try. I say that you have a talk with Miss Pisces. You say she knows how you feel about the Sag, but does she know how you feel about her? Life is too short. If your feelings are that strong, then compare what you stand to loose to what you may gain. What if she feels the same, but is afraid? Why settle?

Best of luck to you Sir.

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Mama Mia
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posted January 03, 2006 03:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mama Mia     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Pisces Female here. Trust me she knows that you are very much attracted to her. I know right off the top when a man is attracted to me even if he tried to hide it I see right through it. We just have that ability. All I can say is she may not be attracted to you only as a friend or she knows your situation with ms Sag and wants you to work that out but not mention anything to you, you just handle that. She has a Libra moon Libra's are about balance, having that placement is good for her bc we Fishys can be very very indecisive especially about love. Also there have been guys that I knew was attracted to me and I wanted them to tell me and if they did not oh well I let it go, she may be doing that also. Either way you may need to speak up face it she already knows anyway...We are amazing feminine lil fishys aren't we.. :-)

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posted January 04, 2006 03:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scorpionic Web     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah, you're probably right. She is indeed very receptive and she probably sees right through me. The more I think about it, the more I feel I should just appreciate the friendship.

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sthenri
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posted January 08, 2006 09:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sthenri     Edit/Delete Message
Scorpionic, It's going to happen that I give you a free opinion, it's not fact.

I am curious, does the Sag also have an air moon? Maybe you are not learning what you want from a woman? Air moons like to analyze themselves and learn through others, so the relationship becomes less about you as an individual. When you move towards the pisces does it sometimes feel as if you are meant to be friends? It could be as deep as it's ever going to get, and that's what you feel with the Sag.

In my honest opinion, people go towards the same, that is the next lover is very much like the last one, only less frustrating. Your Pisces has elements of your Sag. Why not stop and think about what you really want, want in a woman, the thing that would feel up your heart? When you do that, it's not about what anyone else wants.

It maybe that neither woman is really fulfilling, or they are happy just being your friend and so there is nothing left "to do". Try and lay back and see what comes to you for a while.

Otherwise, another way to be happy is to analyze this with a therapist who could probably in two minutes tell you what you are really looking for.

I don't promise to know therapy, but it has worked for me when I really wanted someone. Isn't she worth it to you? If you clear up the mystery in your own head, you could see what is going on around you better.

Just a suggestion. I am underestimating you it's true, but it's because like you said, there is not understanding of sexual attraction, it goes both ways but why, I don't know.

My experience with Libra moons has been mind melting and I don't want to repeat that-
Air moons are lovely people, just simply there and simply lovely.

As for the Sag?
we don't learn anything from people who don't love us, and I suspect vice versa. Sometimes it's easier not to think about it though.


Take Care of YOURSELF, Natasha

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posted January 11, 2006 04:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scorpionic Web     Edit/Delete Message
My Sag has a Gemini moon. Most of the girls that I've been involved with have had an Air moon. What do you mean about Air moons being "just simply there"?

I don't move towards this Pisces. I have purposely kept things casual. When there is physical contact between us, I let it dissipate entirely. Physically, I couldn't imagine that her and I have given each other any plausible suggestion.

All of my thoughts towards her have been bottled up because I realize I may just have to let go of the desire, but I really cannot begin to assess my chances with her.

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