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Swerve
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posted November 20, 2005 02:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Swerve     Edit/Delete Message
Anyone that knows me I would appreciate a response.

I want to write my Cancer girl a letter. I want to tell her that I have made many changes and that I am as I once was. I want to tell her I love her, but won't.

I don't trust my Pisces imagination, colouring verything rosy pink in hindsight. Actualy, I have been fairly realistic in truth and I suppose I should follow my heart right?

It may hurt if I get no response, but something in me cries out for release.

She kept the gift I sent her last Valentine's and never told me. I imagine the ornamental ashtrays I bought her (romantic huh?) are still in her bedroom.

I just don't want to leave it until she finds someone else and then I find out she was waiting for contact.

Cancers aren't going to be straightforward now are they, and my instincts are screaming at me to do this.

Am I being a fool?

Swerve


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sue g
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posted November 20, 2005 05:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
Swerve

I think you have to tell her.....and if you dont....you may regret it forever.

What is stopping you, maybe just fear, maybe ego....I have a favourite saying "he who hesitates loses" and this has been my experience in the past. Now I tell people how I feel....even tho at times, I fear the outcome...

If your Cancer woman rejects you, at least you have been true to yourself...but I have a feeling she wont...

Your post moved me to pull out a card from my Lovers Oracle deck.....hope this helps, it reads:

"Secret Admirer"

Haha.....

Good luck and love

Sue xxx

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MoonDuchess88
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posted November 20, 2005 10:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonDuchess88     Edit/Delete Message
yeah, be true to yourself. Go for it! I wouldn't want to sit around thinking about what could've been.

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sthenri
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posted November 20, 2005 10:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sthenri     Edit/Delete Message
Swerve why not put the authority in her hands and tell her you are ready to commmit to a loving relationship and you want that special someone in your life to be her. Rather than asking her to accept you as you are.

If you act ready whenever she is she won't be able to make a decision-Cancers are not that great at making big decisions and if you want her tell her you are ready and in a place where you are available and loving.

If she needs more than that than you are jumping through hoops and she's not ready.

Don't let the response hurt your feelings as most likely she will be emotional or sharp at first and then go back and forth. Give it some time, communicate and look for actions that say Love.

At this point with my Cancer I am being careful to stay his friend as he is a wonderful person to know, but to be careful to leave it in his ballpark instead of letting him put it all on me. He has a tendency to want me all for himself with no commitment to me, and make me jump through hoops without leaving the security of his home for any reason.

I can't submit to another person's authority if there is no proven action saying I love you, words are fine but he won't even leave his house to prove it if loving me conflicts with a game.

Natasha

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LeoLys
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posted November 20, 2005 10:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeoLys     Edit/Delete Message
I dont 'know' you, but maybe you'll appreciate the response all the same...

There's a Pisces guy in my life who is afraid to profess stuff he feels.

And he doesnt know that after 20 years now, that i am DYING for him to profess. if only he knew the gifts in store for him if he did. maybe he's afraid of his rose-colored glasses too.

the way i look at it, its never wrong to be honest. you may get rejected, and yes that hurts, but atleast you were true to YOURSELF.

so, good luck with what you decide. HOpe I havent butted in too much. But hey, we leos are like that, arent we? unsolicited advice is our FAVORITE!! lol!

Lys

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sue g
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posted November 20, 2005 11:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
LeoLys

Have you known this Pisces guy for 20 years....and he still doesnt open up to you....and if so, doesnt that drive you crazy? Is he in love with you or something and cant show it, is that what it is......maybe ?
xxx

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Swerve
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posted November 20, 2005 02:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Swerve     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for the responses ladies.

LeoLys your post is as much appreciated as anyone elses.

I sent the letter. I wrote it twice and then sent it.

I pushed her into confessing her feelings too early and then pressurised the situation. She said I was controlling her, but really I was controlling the world because of cripplingly low self-esteem and being alone too long.

She is young and I didn't give her any leeway for that at all. I was insecure, jealous and changed so rapidly she must have wondered whether I had either tricked her or had more than one personality.

My social skills leave a lot to be desired, even though I am very good in one-on-one sitautions.

I lied more to myself than her and she told me frequently she liked the pace we were at. I said it was cool but wanted something deeper all along. I would have liked to have done casual but had so much baggage there was no way this was possible.

I also resented the fact she seemed to get on with her life and brush it off so quickly.

She said we should start as friends again and see where it went. I was still in shock it had ended at all.

My friends wanted me to hook up with girls and I just wasn't interested. I told her that there were other girls interested and that I needed some sort of closure. I thought I was being reasonable and demonstarting I was ok, and I thought she wouldn't be bothered.

I text her a couple of weeks later saying I am missing her and she lays out what I said in these e-mails and says I can't tell her how to act or feel and there is my closure - get over it! (I said she should stop being cold towards me because she isn't really like that).

She is a fibber though, soft in the middle and I wnet from being someone she could finally open up to to someone she was scared of. Most of it was in her mind, but my actions didn't make it look like she was wrong. I sometimes forget that although I can open pscyhic connections with girls in my life, doesn't mean they can read me at all. So I was assuming she would know my intentions were good.

She's scared of commitment anyway, and I know I made her feel more deeply than she was ready and made it worse by calling her on it. (When you KNOW how someone feels its hard to pretend you don't - she did admit it by the way, I'm not nuts )

The letter said that I was sorry I had upset her and that I had taken on board a lot of what she said and had made steps to change. Only she could have made me do this because only she made me care enough to do so.

I told her I was grateful for helping me find myself again and that I hoped she was happy, preferrably with me, but any happy would do me.

I think I'm in love with her. The anger has subsided for her abandoning me and I can accept whatever mistakes she made, and have released most of the guilt for what I did.

I think this was my closure. I just don't want to go back to 2 months ago and be a nervous wreck waiting for her to contact me. I don't think I will, I am a different person in so many ways in such a short space of time.

I've bought around 15 books and signed on a self-esteem course and consulted psychiatrist because I have become so bitter and twisted against myself and the world through many negative experiences.

But now I am ready to really take a grip on myself and evolve.

I would really like for her to fly with me as I attempt this.

But now I realise that is her choice and I will take that flight anyway.

I said that I hope in time we can start talking again. Whatever pace I don't mind. My life is missing something pure. It was weird how much we clicked, even for a Deep Fish like me. I can handle that (so I thought anyway!), most ppl I know can't or don't want to, which is their decision alone and for the right reasons if its what they feel.

She fell for a me I didn't even know existed until now. I'm actually quite a cool guy really after all. She said that I was in there somewhere under it all. I think I was hoping having her believe in me when I wasn't so good would have helped me change. But now I see that is WAY too much too burden someone else with. She has her own life to handle right?

I wish her happiness and love.

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MoonDuchess88
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posted November 20, 2005 04:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonDuchess88     Edit/Delete Message

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future_uncertain
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posted November 20, 2005 05:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for future_uncertain     Edit/Delete Message
Swerve...

My heart goes out to you and I hope that things work out for you in the end, whatever that may mean.

I am touched by your leap of faith in confessing your feelings. It's never an easy thing to do, but I usually feel the best thing to do is be honest and let the chips fall where they will.

It sounds like you have made great bounds in your personal life and I believe these changes will serve you well. You sound strong and hopeful and I wish you only the best.

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sthenri
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posted November 20, 2005 05:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sthenri     Edit/Delete Message
Swerve, I know what you mean about Cancers, as I find they are good at finding self esteem in you and praising. Everytime I have been down a Cancer came along and pointed out the good in me and I trusted again.

It's a wonderful feeling-
Maybe Cancers and Pisces were meant to be-
Not to be overly realistic, but when she said under it all, as in you are good under it all, it sounded a bit as if she desired some change, maybe she does have things in her own life she is uhappy with right now?

Cancers do tend to be that way, a mirror to negative feeling in others.

Stay happy and see what happens,

Natasha

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let ther b light
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posted November 21, 2005 07:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for let ther b light     Edit/Delete Message
HEY SWERVE
jus wanted to tell u dat its good that u did tell her coz u wont look back n regret.........u wont ever look back n say 'at least i shoud've tried'.......but she may look back n say 'i missed my chance'......n i somehow get d feelin that she might think dat way in a bit .....dunno why i feel dat way........but watevr happens i wish u'll love n happiness
diya

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Peri
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posted November 23, 2005 03:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
you wont look back n regret..u wont ever look back n say 'at least i shoud've tried'.......but she may look back n say 'i missed my chance'

Agree!

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pixelpixie
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posted November 23, 2005 09:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message
Good show of faith in the human condition!
We are all travelling and tripping and sometimes you find someone who you want to forge a new path with.. even admitting it is cleansing. Good for you to determine your own path, and ask her to hold your hand when you approach the destination.
Such a show of heart is honourable..... and even if she is confused right now, I am so glad you tiptoed the cliff to share it with her. It makes all the difference.
Good for you!

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Mystic Gemini
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posted November 23, 2005 01:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mystic Gemini     Edit/Delete Message
Do it!


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Gemini sun, Cancer rising, mercury in Gemini, moon in Taurus *29, venus in Taurus, mars in Libra

*´¨)
¸.·´¸.·*´¨) ¸.·*¨)
(¸.·´ (¸.·´ * Lost in the peace of serenity
Blind my eyes I cannot see
Lost my soul but found my heart
Again a time, when I shall start

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AcousticGod
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posted November 23, 2005 01:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Swerve,

I have written such letters to Cancers with no response, so that is a possibility. Not sure what causes that in Cancers.

I'm not saying not to do it. Just maybe don't expect too much.


AG

(Whoops. Jumped ahead. Didn't realize you already sent it. There is no fathoming Cancers sometimes.)

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Mystic Gemini
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posted November 23, 2005 03:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mystic Gemini     Edit/Delete Message
If you have done something to hurt a cancer real bad then of course don't expect a response


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Gemini sun, Cancer rising, mercury in Gemini, moon in Taurus *29, venus in Taurus, mars in Libra

*´¨)
¸.·´¸.·*´¨) ¸.·*¨)
(¸.·´ (¸.·´ * Lost in the peace of serenity
Blind my eyes I cannot see
Lost my soul but found my heart
Again a time, when I shall start

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ghanima81
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posted November 24, 2005 03:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ghanima81     Edit/Delete Message
I had no time to read everyone elses' responses, but darling, what do you really want to do? Just go with what you feel to be right, you can't ask us to answer what you already know in your heart of hearts. I know you are a very sensitive and deep person, and you would find the best way to settle this situation. Just don't play any games, and get to the point, that's all we can really do now isn't it? Be who we are and hope that others around us, especially those we love, will understand our motives, desires, etc., and be there for us no matter what moves we make. Have faith in yourself, and do what comes naturally.

I wish you the best of luck, you know you're in my heart, babe.

Ghani

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Swerve
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posted November 25, 2005 04:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Swerve     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks guys.

She hasn't responded yet. She will. Its baby steps and no expectations that I need.

I really do appreciate your words guys.

And Ghani - big kiss babe. Missed ya.

Swerve

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Swerve
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posted November 28, 2005 12:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Swerve     Edit/Delete Message
We have been talking via e-mail today for the first time in 2 months.

She is going to leave her job as she is being bullied. I sent her some beautiful flowers and told her no strings attached, and meant it, though obviously I hope.

She thanked me, and is cagey of course.

Just need to be patient. She may even be with someone new by now anyway.

I really hope she isn't.

Swerve

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MoonDuchess88
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posted November 29, 2005 03:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonDuchess88     Edit/Delete Message
Thats very nice to hear! Good luck

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CancerianMoon
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posted November 29, 2005 05:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CancerianMoon     Edit/Delete Message
I believe the possibility of a Cancer and a Pisces returning to each others arms is higher than most other signs.
Swerve i applaud your courage and leap of faith hope it all works out well for you!

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Swerve
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posted November 29, 2005 09:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Swerve     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks Cancerian Moon. She has a Gemini Moon so you are probably the best to give advice.

She is going through a lot at the moment and I have to be patient and wait my turn.

She asked me for my number immediately as she had lost it (I know I know, but in fairness I deleted hers too in an attempt to move on). She said that way she could call me when she wanted to.

She got the flowers yesterday and has been very quiet today. I would have been annoyed by this before, but have learnt better now and keep my vulnerability in check quite easily.

Is this a problem or a good thing?

What do you think is going through her mind?

My personal take is that she doesn't want to get into the fallout of the relationship and start just yet while she is being bullied at work and thinking of resigning.

I am just making sure I am in the background supporting her and demanding nothing. I told her I am here when she needs me, she knows that.

Just playing my position, with her best interests at heart.

Swerve

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CancerianMoon
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posted November 29, 2005 08:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CancerianMoon     Edit/Delete Message
I think that when Cancerians are going through stressful times love relations are second..also i think with her moon in gemini she will be overly weary trusting you again..that said she has shown that there is still a possibility for you both by asking for your number and sending email..cancers are master avoiders and if she wasnt interested at all..she wouldnt contact..i think you should stick it out..but give her the freedom all gemini moons need and desire and remind her your there for her...like you have..i think ur doing what she needs..you have sensed that well..the gemini moon/cancer sun makes conflict with how fast they want things to move in a relationship..on one hand they want it now..on the other they want to take time..
you said you resented the fact she brushed it off and moved on..i feel this is typical of the gemini influence..but with her heart a cancer..she hasnt forgotten you and if you hang in there its possible she may be open to you once again..im sure she saw the real you too! Keep reminiding her your there...give her the freedom she needs and be at ease with that..she will sense it..and it will make her at ease too..
sorry my post is all over the place i write like i think..here there and everywhere..Swerve its wonderful to see you reach a place where you can want someone this much and are willing to give them the time and freedom needed to respond..i think your doing exactly what she needs.

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Swerve
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posted December 01, 2005 04:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Swerve     Edit/Delete Message
Is it ok to ask her if she is with someone else now?

My instincts are crying out.

I want to put it in a way that if she isn't doesn't sound pushy.

Swerve

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Swerve
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posted December 01, 2005 06:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Swerve     Edit/Delete Message
Well I asked politely. She said why do you need to know. I said that if so I would stop bugging her and move on. Then I explained in another e-mail that I saw things clearly now and wanted to do what was best for her and if that meant staying out of her life then so be it.

I asked her politely to answer the question an hour and a half later.

Nothing back yet.

This is where we are so different. I am emotional and intense and impulsive (though controlled now). She goes into that shell and hides for a bit. It drives me nuts inside but I know she is testing me for that reaction, so I have to bite my keyboard fingers and be patient.

I wonder if I can do this indefinitely though. Otherwise there is no point to any of this if we are SO different.

You can't appreciate what this does to a Scorpio Moon fella unless you are one.

Swerve

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