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GypsyDancer1221
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posted November 25, 2006 10:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypsyDancer1221     Edit/Delete Message
ANY advice would be appreciated! I only get to see him about every six months since he's in the military, and I'm fine with writing to him (which we've been doing for a year or so) but on the phone and in person I'm so nervous! Here's the info:

I have
Aries Ascendant
Cancer Sun
Capricorn Moon
Cancer Mercury
Gemini Venus
Aries Mars
Cancer Jupiter
Capricorn Saturn
Capricorn Uranus
Capricorn Neptune
Scorpio Pluto
Chiron in Cancer
Eros, Vesta, and Psyche in Taurus
North Node Aquarius
I also have an interception:
Double lines in Cancer and Capricorn
No lines in Virgo or Pisces

He has
Libra Ascendant
Aquarius Sun
Aquarius Moon
Aquarius Mercury
Sagittarius Venus
Aries Mars
Pisces Jupiter
Sagittarius Saturn
Sagittarius Uranus
Capricorn Neptune
Scorpio Pluto
Aries North Node
Eros 0 degrees Aries
Psyche Virgo
Vesta Aries

We have four exact degree conjunctions but I don't know exactly what they mean:

My Juno exact Conjunct his Pluto
His Anteros exact Conjunct my Moon
My Chiron exact Conjunct his Frolava
My Saturn exact Conjunct his Juno

PLEASE comment! I'd appreciate ANY imput on our synastry, or even our composite (which has Capricorn Asc.)

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cancerrg
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posted November 26, 2006 01:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cancerrg     Edit/Delete Message
run , if you can !

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GypsyDancer1221
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posted November 26, 2006 11:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypsyDancer1221     Edit/Delete Message
Dear God, I'm scared now! Why should I run?!

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moonshine
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posted November 26, 2006 02:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for moonshine     Edit/Delete Message
I'm a virgo with cancer rising.. I spent most of this year with an Aqua man.. but Aquas don't know what they want. They are lovely and very easy to fall in love with, but they don't fall in love very easily themselves. My Aqua doesn't want to be with me but he doesn't want to leave me alone either. He wants me around, but without the commitment of a relationship.

Thats the way Aquas are. Cancers are emotional and clingy, sentimental and soft-hearted. Aquas are independent and aloof. They are friends with everyone and special to no-one.

They break your heart.

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darkdreamer
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posted November 26, 2006 02:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for darkdreamer     Edit/Delete Message
Speaking as a woman with an Aquarius-moon.

They also break their own heart. They won`t commit, even if they are completely in love.
And even if you may be all they need, they still will end up running away. And this way they break their own heart.

Well, maybe that`s only true for this special woman with Moon in aquarius here. Sorry, to have interrupted your thread.
But on a lighter note; my father has Sun, Venus and Mars in aquarius, and my Mother has Sun, Mercury in Scorpio, moon, Venus, Mars in Virgo and a Cancer-ascendant; they have been married for 32 years now! And despite all those storms on their long way, they are still very much in love.
So, there`s hope, even for aquarius-people. And one thing is also true, even though they may not tell you, it could be that you are the one love they will never forget. (They are very sensitive and romantic, deep inside, way under their intellectual, independent and aloof surface; well some of them are at least.)

DD

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GypsyDancer1221
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posted November 26, 2006 03:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypsyDancer1221     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you ALL for your imput, and thank you DD for the encouragement. I'm pretty sure he loves me because he actually put it on paper (But being an Aquarian, I guess he could change his mind... he does have Jupiter in Pisces and Pluto in Scorpio, though!) and he's more open than I am, but not in person. In person we're both pretty quiet and we've never even MENTIONED our relationship...it just exists. I know he doesn't open up that much because he's afraid of getting hurt, as am I. Should I just take a risk and ACT on my feelings?

Thank you again!!! I'd still appreciate imput, especially if anyone knows what our asteroid/planet conjunctions mean. I hear that it's really strong if they're in the same degree, same sign, but I don't know what the exact combinations mean. THANK YOU!

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moonshine
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posted November 26, 2006 05:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for moonshine     Edit/Delete Message
Darkdreamer:

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They also break their own heart. They won`t commit, even if they are completely in love.
And even if you may be all they need, they still will end up running away. And this way they break their own heart.
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Reading this almost broke my heart! I think this is true.. I think my Aqua secretly loves me, but if that is the case why does he run away? Being a "romantic-minded" cancer-rising person, I find it hard to understand.. is there a reason deep down, why Aquas do this? Is it fear of commitment? Or an inability to act on their emotions?

Glad to hear about your parents though, good to know there is hope out there!

*edit: I do understand actually.. I've been single on and off for pretty much my whole life, I'm just interested in what specifically might go through an Aquarian's mind in relationship situations.

Gypsy dancer: despite what I said, I think you should go for it. The relationship I had with my Aqua was one of the most fun, open and honest relationships I've ever had in my life. I'm glad that I know him and that we're still friends. He is someone I think I can consider a friend for life.

I wouldn't hold my breath but its worth a try even for that reason.

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GypsyDancer1221
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posted November 26, 2006 09:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypsyDancer1221     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you, Moonshine, I appreciate it; the only problem is that we AREN'T open, though! He was born on a new moon, I was born on a full moon... Even our Ascendents are opposed! I get to see him again this week, so I will TRY to open up, and it's true, I know that my Aquarian is afraid of getting hurt, so that might be why they run away or don't typically act on their emotions. He waited until he was on the other side of the country to tell me how he felt about me! But I'm very glad he told me. ^_^ It's probably because their emotions are usually overruled by logic... but maybe not. Thank you for ALL your imput!

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darkdreamer
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posted November 27, 2006 08:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for darkdreamer     Edit/Delete Message
Moonshine,

"Reading this almost broke my heart!"
It sure broke mine. Oh my, I think, I had a very melodramatic phase yesterday.
But I just realized that all I did for the last 9 months was running away.
Last february I broke up with someone, only one month after our 1st year anniversary. Well, it was very much an on-and-off-relationship, but the good times were pretty good. I think I really loved him, at least he was giving me so much warmth (that`s his seductive Sun closely conjunct and parallel my Venus, I guess). But then he started pushing me a bit, he wanted me to commit to him I think; very understandable. And then all at once I panicked, and oh what wonder, Virgo-guy appeared, and I broke up with this other guy head over heels. Today I think that Virgo-guy may have been just an easy way out.
Well, I held myself up quite well, I guess, but now there`s someone else taking an interest in me and I had / have all those feelings for him. But somehow I can`t let this thing develop further, because, well, it`s ridiculous, but I feel as if I am cheating on the one I broke up with in february. What a mess! I think it`s my Aquarius-moon, who is responsible for this (okay, I know, I am the one who is responsible for this), and the thing is I miss him, so I guess, I was a bit melancholic yesterday.

"I think my Aqua secretly loves me, but if that is the case why does he run away?"
If I only knew, then maybe I could stop running away. *Smiles*
Well, I can only tell you why I think I run away. It`s like, if I let myself fall into loving someone, then I become so dependent on him; then I realize that I actually need someone (not just like to have someone around, really need him), and then I feel that I can easily be manipulated (yeah, I have trust and control-issues, I know). and what should I do, if he leaves me? Then I would be totally lost and I wouldn`t know how to deal with it. So, it`s more secure to stay detached and aloof, so noone will realize, how much they can hurt me or affect me emotionally.
And there`s one other thing: I`m never sure about my feelings. It`s like I say: "Yes, I do love you and want to spend the rest of my life with you, but what if I`m wrong? Can I be sure this is really love? What is love?" And then I end up being confused, trying to explain feelings with my analytical skills, and then I usually mess the whole thing up.
I guess, I am just a hopeless case. But not every Aquarius is that way; I think that`s my very special "gift".

DD

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GypsyDancer1221
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posted November 27, 2006 04:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypsyDancer1221     Edit/Delete Message
DD,
I think I have that same problem almost! I approached it a little differently, though; I always "loved" or dedicated my emotions to someone who was "unattainable" or who I thought would never reciprocate, because then it was constant on both parts. I was SO afraid of commitment that I'd always do that, even if the guy I cared for pretty much hated me.

I was shocked last June 'cause a guy I've loved for over two years now actually reciprocated my emotions; I was so confused that I procrastinated two weeks before I wrote back to him. (We correspond.) I don't have any Aquarius (Well, North Node and a few asteroids... but no major planets) though, but I know for a fact that I'm torn between freedom and security. Is that similar to what you feel? Just curious. ^_^ Take care!

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moonshine
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posted November 27, 2006 06:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for moonshine     Edit/Delete Message
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it`s more secure to stay detached and aloof, so noone will realize, how much they can hurt me or affect me emotionally.
And there`s one other thing: I`m never sure about my feelings. It`s like I say: "Yes, I do love you and want to spend the rest of my life with you, but what if I`m wrong? Can I be sure this is really love? What is love?"
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Dark dreamer: do you feel guilty for feeling the way you do?

I do understand you - believe me I am like that myself - despite my strong virgo/cancer/pisces moon influences which make me overly romanticise and idealistic of relationships to an unrealistic and unhealthy extent, I also have Mars in Aquarius and a sh*tload of crappy aspects like Moon Opposition Venus which make relationships really hard for me. I too find it more "secure" to be alone - its safer. But i hate it. I've spent most of my life being single, becuase I've found it easier to be free and avoid tie-ups. Aqua makes you deal in shallow relationships constantly becuase its easier, while pisces/cancer strives for something more deep and meaningful. The two really are opposites and cause no end of problems for me!.

I'm totally rambling now, but I just want to add that its only in the past couple of years that I have been actively trying to change my pattern. In the past 18 months I have been out with 2 guys. During that time I tried my hardest to battle my naturally negative impulses and trid to become as honest and open as possible as I could be in these relationships. OK, they both ended, but I feel that these two were the most meaningful I've ever had in my whole life. I feel at least that I had relationships of some substance - so I can hopefully do get better in the future.

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moonshine
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posted November 27, 2006 06:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for moonshine     Edit/Delete Message
the only problem is that we AREN'T open, though!

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If you like him its worth a try (see my post above about openness) but don't push the subject, it'll turn him off! If he wants to be open than he'll do it in his own time.

I read somewhere on this board that the best thing you can do with an Aqua man is to let him know he can trust you. x

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darkdreamer
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posted November 28, 2006 06:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for darkdreamer     Edit/Delete Message
GypsyDancer,

I know that pattern. Actually it`s one of my favourite ways of running away. Falling for someone completely unreachable for me.
That other pattern of detachment and displayed independence also applies to friendships, sometimes. If friendships got too close, I`ve been known to get quite defensive and withdraw. But luckily I realized that habit quite quicMokly and then try to open up a bit again. I`m working on it.
Moon in aquarius in 2nd house and Venus in Capricorn square Pluto: difficult to balance these two.

Moonshine,
yes I feel guilty. I should know what I feel and feel what I feel and be absolutely sure about it. It`s not fair towards other people.
I know that I`m hurting people this way; not only men, also friends, my mother. I don`t want this, and I try not to, but they are hurt, especially my mother, because they feel they can`t get close to me. WEll, the irony is, they are; they are all inside my heart and I told them that, I can speak about it. But it`s hard to really SHOW what I feel. Yes, I think it all started with my mother. She was even hurt by me, when I was still a baby, because I didn`t want to stay on her arms for too long.
And yet we`re very close; so close that we constantly hurt each other, just by being different (She is a Scorpio / Virgo / Cancer-mix, while I am a Sagittarius / Aquarius - mix with much Neptune-influence).
So that feeling of guilt is well known to me.

DD

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GypsyDancer1221
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posted December 04, 2006 05:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypsyDancer1221     Edit/Delete Message
DD-
I'm glad I'm not the only one who does that! And then once relationships end, because of what I did, I always obsess over them and try to revive them without initiating anything... I ruined a close friendship with a Scorpio a few years ago and I STILL obsess over it sometimes and wonder what our friendship could have grown into. *sigh* but now I have my darling Aquarian that I'm too shy to talk to! Yet we've been dating six months... I'm going to meet his family in a few days and I'm SO nervous, but his sister is really extroverted, so hopefully I'll loosen up a bit. Anyway, thank you all for the comments so far! I appreciate it!
~ Coco

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sthenri
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posted December 05, 2006 06:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sthenri     Edit/Delete Message
Looking at Pluto in Scorpio and Jupiter in Pisces, this man is more in the closet about his emotions than most, he is ultra private and a man's man. He won't talk about his feelings, so it is best as you said to act on them, make it easier by chasing him, which is what you are doing and making a life for him to step into. He thinks about the future a great deal and a real relationship, focus on what you will do when you are together, when you talk.

He is probably also more hands on and touchy feely than most Aquas so that is why you are attracted. Do things with him when you are together that stimulate his senses, bake a pie, take him Christmas shopping, go on a trip, enjoy a car ride, let him drive. He will want to be in control of his feelings, that can amount to control in most things, so at first he will want to drive the car, make the major decisions, until he feels secure.

Still, be sure to make your emotional and physical needs clear up front, because so much is not said due to his natural insecurity.

In this case he is not a typical Aquarius male at all. Whenever I meet a man with Jupiter and Pluto in water signs I am shocked if he is not a water sun sign. The likeness is strong.

Natasha
Taurus/Cancer

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GypsyDancer1221
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posted December 07, 2006 07:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypsyDancer1221     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you SO much! I could cry, that information helps me so much!!! It's accurate, as far as I can tell, and it's true; I always feel less nervous and more secure when we're DOING something together, even something as simple as dipping strawberries into chocolate! I'm going to his house tomorrow to meet his parents, so I'm going to be in his car with him for the first time so what exactly do I do? Do I TELL Him that I have strong feelings for him, because he knows that (or should, anyway), or...what? What you're saying is that by MY chasing HIM, he'll be more in charge after he feels comfortable? I hope so, because I do NOT want to be the dominant partner! We've been dating for six months (I only saw him about 9 times TOPS during that time, though) and he still hasn't even held my hand, so I'm SUPER insecure right now. Is that because he keeps his emotions under control, and most of the times we've seen each other it's been around other people as well? I don't know... But if you have ANY more imput, I would GREATLY appreciate it!!!!!! THANK YOU ALL!
~ Coco

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GypsyDancer1221
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posted December 10, 2006 11:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypsyDancer1221     Edit/Delete Message
Update on the situation!!! My darling Aquarian was here for a few weeks and he just left today, so here's the basics: He came to my school every school day to eat lunch with me, and on his last day seeing me he stayed for my last two periods and went to class with me, even though I was shy around him and therefore boring compared to normal. We saw each other outside of school three times, twice at my house and once at his house. It was more awkward at my house than his, but at his house he sat next to me, closer than he'd sat before and when he took me home, although it was FREEZING, he got out of the car to hug me goodbye, and I have NO CLUE how it happened, but when we stopped hugging (it wasn't long, unfortunately, but when we're alone he hugs me tighter than when we're in public... is that because he's introverted or shy?) my hand was in his! I don't even remember the transition, but after about two or three seconds, we let go and I was walking home to my door when I turned around and asked for another hug because I might not see him for another six months, and... that's about it. Oh, also, I beat him a few times at Nintendo when we played a few rounds on racing. ^_^ lol, it was amusing 'cause it was my first time playing that game. Anyway, PLEASE GIVE ME ALL AND ANY IMPUT POSSIBLE!!! I appreciate it! Be safe, and thank you!

New Update: He's going to be able to visit for Christmas, so I might get to see him THIS WEEKEND! (Actually, he promised he'd see me... XD EEK! ^_^) Any more imput... from anyone... just, I appreciate it. THANK YOU!

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