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venus in gemini
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posted February 16, 2008 05:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

what indicates a twin soul? I am very curious about that.

Does he feel the same way about you. Ask him how he feels about you. If he feels the same way about you, go for it. If not,then you should move on and find somebody else.

BTW...I read that twin souls don't necessarily have to be romantic partners but they could be relatives,friends.. even spirit guides.

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No one answered your post in astrology forum?strange cause usually there are a lot of knowflakes there that can help - i think its more easy on that forum than on this one

Why did IQ told you he is your TWin? Did you know there are only abuot 5€ of all Humanity that actually do meet his/her Twin Soul? Youvre very lucky on having met him even if now you are feeling so hurt...

You ask about karma/kiron/saturn - usually those are the ones that points to past life lessons and what we have to own or pay to the other..have you looked to the Draconics? I bet they will tell you even more about it.

If he has his sun/venus in his 12th well you must be very patient with him and give him time and space to put his feelings and head into his order..it must be hard for you but you will manage to learn how to do it and comprehensively,talk to him about what do you feel.

Is he into astrology? If so than it would be much easier to show him why all that is happening between you. With my bf i slowly started to talk about it and now he also starts to ask me questions and says he understands why i am so quiet and deep to my own thogushts ( er in the 12th...)

His Venus also falls on my 12th - a friend of mine said that also can point to a psysic conection and not just a past life lovers indication..so try to take advantage of that conection with him.

I also have my AC conj his IC - so i definatelly know that part

its easy to see by your aspects together that you were bond to meet,it is Destiny working here ( AC/VX/NN..)

my Destiny and Union conj my bfs ASC so lke in our case , you and your guy also were meant to meet and be together in this life - plus that ould be seen as a DW cause your guy´s karma/VX conj your asc as well

he´s the Saturn on conj your Sun - you might feel trapped or subjugated by him sometimes? Or maybe he makes you feel more vulnerable when he´s acting too responsible?

HiS Sun conj your ASC - this is one of the nicest ones - i have that also with my bf: it´s one of the cosmic glue aspects that makes a couple very bonded and naturally feel loved by the other.

his Sun conj her Vesta - you might feel very devoted to him to his way of being

Saturn /Venus kikunks - this might be a tought one as Magi says :its here that maybe why you feel like he hurts you all the time...Saturn/Kiron skuare - here it is again..accoding to Magi astrology this is a heartbreak aspect where the Kiron person is naturaly the wounded one.his saturn skuares your Moon also - so he hurts you emocionally also.
His karma conj your ASC - he is destined to you.

VX/ASC DW - what more can be said? I think that definatelly you have a trong bond together,its not wasy to have all those aspects with one person.

For one side you have all the Iqunk´s indications of SOul Mate aspects - and if hew told you you are Twin Souls than..i bet that the guy sure loves you.
The thing is..you also have lots of indications of hurtings and pain,that all comes from past life karma and ive red also that when it comes to Twin Souls,its not easy realtionships,theu add much more strengh of a person and ask that thw two of you can handle all the powerfull and depth of fellings you have together - and all that was left behind.

Many times they dont stay together cause one of them isnt ready to "life it fully" - it seems he is feeling that right now and i bet it isnt being easy for him as he surely doenst know what it´s happening about.

So,if i were you i would talk to him veruy seriously and try to just say whatts on your heart, and if he feels he´s ready for it and to live the relationship with you

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i have always been wary of the obsession with soulmates, and frankly have seen a lot of people trying to believe that their lover was such for the sake of romanticism or reassurance - until recently, however, when someone came into my life with a thunderbolt (not that much was said) and it FREAKED me out. i ran away! so just because it is not all smooth sailing doesn't mean it isn't so...but again not all soulmates are meant to be present-life lovers, are they? is this last also true of twin souls? or am i making too fine a distinction? i'm not sure the astrology is always obvious in either case though SOME aspects will be very telling...

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i kow u will hate me for this but mostly twin soul love involves heart rending evolution and the pain is requisite to the spiritual progress and karmic needs of both of u.
have faith
and always love, no matter what the consequences

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i think you will understand better after you´ve red this article:
http://www.borntoinspire.com/id60.html

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Maybe its both: to learn patience and to stand out for your needs also.

Its very interesting if we can look to our past lifes and try to understand what are the pattherns now and what were in the past - unfortunatelly its not that easy to know or easy to deal with it.

I believe that the more important the person is than more challenges exist in the relationship for us to evolve together - keep the Faith!

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posted February 27, 2008 08:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for venus in gemini     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello all!
Could someone tell me how to pull up the draconic charts on my relationship? Which zodiac option do you choose? I noticed some other options under Western Geocentric at astro.com, but wasn't sure which option would give me the draconic chart.

Thanks again to everyone for your help!

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If you "owe" him from a past life then he can't be your TWIN SOUL... the one thing l def know about twin soul's is that there is absolutely no karma with them.

How can there be when you are the same soul lol
It is only with our oversoul groups and soul mates that we have karma.


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Hmm, but what is Karma?
You create Karma if you meet, right?
Cause you can`t meet without doing, thinking, saying, feeling something.

But IF Twinsouls have spent even only one lifetime with each other (or met), then they would create Karma.

And what about Twinsouls in denial?
Do they exist?
Well, several articles I read claimed they do exist, if they haven`t yet made the experiences they need to make for a real reunion.

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posted February 01, 2009 09:42 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi VIG

arweyou here?

how are things going right now?

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DD,
it's not possible to create karma with your own soul. Remember the twin soul is half of your soul.

You won't have nor create karma

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posted February 02, 2009 12:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for oneruledbymars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is not the Karma between the relationship of the Twin Soul that causes the issues. It is the Karma that you have created in your own thousands of years of incarnations that must be dealt with before you can come together to walk side by side.
I think when you meet your Twin Soul, it is an exquisite experience. I can't even begin to describe the feeling that I felt when I met mine and the short time we spent together was nothing short of amazing. The Synastry everything is amazing.
I have never been completely down and out my entire life until the moment he walked away from me. I am an Aries Sun with a Mars in Aries and with a Fire Trine in my chart between my Midheaven, my Sun and my Moon. I am a very, very self motivated happy little soul, very athletic always have been all my life. I cant tell you when I have ever been depressed. Yet I couldnt get off of the couch for almost a month and my entire life as I knew it then crumbled around me.
Its almost like Spirit whispers in your ear. "This is the way you must feel when you are fully connected to your inner self and as result fully connected to me" As twin souls we came here, not to serve each other but to serve the world.
Before I met my Twin Soul I was completely opposed to anything that had anything to do with Occult studies. And so was he. We both thought it was "Demonized".
After we met. I began searching for a reason that I was having these feelings. Why music suddenly spoke to my heart, like never before. Why the beauty in everything around me became more noticeable. Why life became suddenly really close to being, if not completely perfect in every way for me.
And then one day, he literally ran away. lol Poof! Just like that.
I remember looking him in the eye and saying, "You know we are soulmates, every cell in your body tells you that" And all he could do was look at me.
With the saddest eyes I had ever seen. But he did not answer me. We never really even talked about it. He just stopped calling me. During one of our last conversations he said he was confused, and that it had nothing to do with me, and that he was very sorry. And so I made myself back away.
It was a very difficult time for me But now I know that it had to happen that way. We chose this experience before we got here.
We had to find that happiness that we experienced together on our own. So we had to seperate . And since then I have embarked on a journey that has been nothing short of amazing. I have emerged on the other side a different man. But not a day has gone by in the past year that I have not thought about him. I send him love everyday. And I dream about him almost every night.
I can truly say that it has been and still is the most powerful, most destructive and most transformative experience of my life to date. Whats ironic is that it came around the time of my Saturn return at the age of 28, I turned 29 after we met.
So I think what you are are learning Venus in Gemini (if shes even still around to read this, lol) is that love is a one way street. You give it. And you give it. And you give it some more because that is why you are here. We didnt come here to have a 3rd dimensional perfect relationship. Helping this world through the great transition that is about to take place is why we are here. And why he is here....why you are here...focus on that, and Spirit will provide the rest, it will fill your cup up until it "runneth" over. I can almost guarantee you that in the end your reward will be greater than anything you can ever put words to in this dimension.
I guess thats my long winded way of saying I agree with you Lara! lol


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posted February 02, 2009 12:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
very well said, ORBM!

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posted February 02, 2009 04:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for oneruledbymars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Thanks Kat. I think its one of those subjects that I am most passionate about. Obviously right? lol

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What is karma?

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posted February 03, 2009 11:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for oneruledbymars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I guess DD everyone has there take on it.
Here is mine for what its worth.
First and foremost for me everything in the universe has a purpose. There are very tangible rules for everything that we experience in the 3D including our own lifepath, and the challenges that inherent in it.
None of us are here by accident, we all chose to come to the classroom. And we each picked our mazes so to speak to walk through that would teach us the lessons our souls needed, especially so looking at the time period we chose. No life is pointless, it’s all about progression, Ascension is the aname of the game, learning and climbing the stairwell to a higher level - something that even transcends one physical lifetime because our soul returns to continue the progression.
To me this is our KARMA, the grand plan for our lives – the credits and debits, the good and the bad – the path we must tread.
When we can instinctively ‘tune in’ to that karma, we find the purpose and the reasons for our lessons and can finally find our true path, to understand what’s happening and why - and to walk the path in peace and happiness with the knowledge of who really are, it is our birthright as a Divine human. In other words we can free ourselves.

But we have a date with destiny, and she does not always have the best table manners, lol. But whatever the case we both have our parts to play as we move along with her through our lifepaths. She presents the obstacles, the twist and turns in the maze, the challenges that we must overcome as we walk our paths.

Someone once told me that what we "Want" in this 3D world and what is meant to "Be" in the bigger scheme of things don't always coincide, if fact often times they contradict, and I think that is what throws us off track.
For instance in this dimension I really want to be with my Twin Soul it satiates the need to love in the physical , but what is meant to be is that I connect fully with the Creator source and the wealth of love that already exist inside of me. My Twin was only put there by destiny to help me see that it is possible to have that connection and what it feels like. He was a wake up call to my slumbering physical reality matrix of energy. It is now my job to find that unconditional love that that energy that exists in me, that completes me, and returns me back to the Source and has nothing at all to do with him. I am now in the process of Re-membering who I am, and who I was through all the lifetimes I have been here. I am striving to connect to my Oversoul, in which boat all previous incarnations are contained. It comes to mind with the Duat that is in the Hieroglyphs of the Temple of Egypt, you know where the all the Souls are traveling in the boat through the 12 divisions of the Underworld. That is how I have come to view this journey that is taken place within. I believe that is what embodies the Activation of our DNA and the undistorting of our Merkaba.

But anyway to me that is beauty of Astrology for us in the now moment, we have this whole Mystical world unto it self, full of Esoteric knowledge, abounding in wisdom, to guide us along our path. We have a light to shine that most of the world doesnt. It is truly a gift, one well earned in our past lives no doubt. So it helps us navigate our paths a little more efficiently than other people, just as true Psychics have the ability to map unseen energy through our lives which helps us find the Squares and Oppositions in our charts and helps over come these energy blockages. The residuals of our past life karmas. There is great beauty and power in that. And in the all encompassing unconditional love I think that is part of what we feel when we all put our minds together on this website and work together for the good of each other and the people that we help on there lifepaths in our readings. This part of the light and love that we bring into this world.

I know I have said this before but I see our destined path as a route through a maze. The maze represents all of the possible challenges and rewards, all of the ups and downs, and all the people who we will meet who are destined to come into our lives to bring happiness or conflict.
Within that framework of the maze we have free will. At any point we can turn left or right, go straight ahead or go back. As humans we frequently have the illusion that life is totally free will. We can choose what to wear, where to go, who to marry and what color we want our décor. And that by definition is free will, so we do have it. But in some things we ultimately don’t.
Our ‘free will’ and our destiny are ultimately intertwined by the fact of our existence within the predefined framework of the karma – the maze – the framework of the path from birth to death, East to West and ultimately rebirth in each of our incarnations on Gaia.
A process that has taken thousands of years and countless incarnations to bring us to where we are today.
A journey of momentous proportions. We can only imagine how the rest of the Universe tips there hats to the Souls that have incarnated at this age as you and I and millions of others on this Earth right now. We have literally been through hell and back! lol No pun intended

But back to the subjec at hand. If we have a lesson to learn in this life (and the lessons get bigger and more intense as we keep incarnating so by now alot of us would be dealing with the ulitmate ones) that is triggered by a certain pre-destined events but we try to avoid it or not experience it or plainly refuse to learn the lesson, our vibratory status never raises, our Merkaba does not undistort, our consciousness does not evolve, because we never integrate the energy from that lesson into our lives, we don't ascend hence we continue to vibrate at the same level, and we ultimately will attract the same lesson and we find ourselves arriving again at the same junction having gone around in a big circle but having learned something very valuable on the way – a karmic lesson, our accelerated Karma is that we don't get it again next lifetime though we get it again, next week! lol Fear (fear being the ulitmate) but doubt, needing to control and other people’s influence taking a close 2nd , 3rd and 4th, cause us to make different choices in our lives but ultimately we can not avoid destiny, and that’s why the maze is such a good analogy.
This is why with these karmic events psychics cannot predict time with any great accuracy what will happen – especially where it involves another person learning a karmic lesson . . because of the inherent free will, no one knows how you will choose to exercise it in any given moment.

Does the Universe really care what you wear or what color you choose to dye your hair?
No. But in these key life lessons we are talking about here, where our free will and what we’ve learned is driving which route we take, timing is in the hands of the individual. What is destined is the ultimate outcome.

But the ultimate goal is to transcend our fears and doubts, to relinquish control, to be open to opportunity and to be prepared to follow the path to wherever it leads. Frequently we as humans ‘want’ our path to be a straight line from where we are now to what we want and set off in that straight line assuming it’s going to work. Understand that it may well be that there are twists and turns, unexpected events, challenges and also unexpected rewards. So I say we must use those instincts, intuition, senses and emotions to guide us back home, to the Source from which we came and in doing so the peace of the Source/God/Universe however we view our Higher Source of life and love that excells all thoughts will guard our hearts and our mental powers.
And we will have "dropped a house" on Karma, because she has no power here.


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Wow, thank you for the in depth answer,

Especially thank you for this:

" guess DD everyone has there take on it."

You wrote:
"And we each picked our mazes so to speak to walk through that would teach us the lessons our souls needed"

and

"To me this is our KARMA, the grand plan for our lives – the credits and debits, the good and the bad – the path we must tread."

and

"For instance in this dimension I really want to be with my Twin Soul it satiates the need to love in the physical , but what is meant to be is that I connect fully with the Creator source and the wealth of love that already exist inside of me. My Twin was only put there by destiny to help me see that it is possible to have that connection and what it feels like. He was a wake up call to my slumbering physical reality matrix of energy. It is now my job to find that unconditional love that that energy that exists in me, that completes me, and returns me back to the Source and has nothing at all to do with him."

But if KARMA is the path we must tread and the lessons we must learn, and your Twinsoul acted as a "wake up call" to your lessons, almost "pushed" you towards your lesson, then he IS a part of the Grand plan, and therefore - according to your definition - there was Karma at work.


Let me keep it easy: to me Karma is the law of cause and effect. And whatever we do, it will have an effect, sometimes spanning over several lives even.
But according to this definition, whenever you DO something, you will create Karma (not necessarily bad Karma, could be good Karma, too ).
And if you meet your Twinsoul in a physical manifestation and you DO soemthing together or even only one of you, this will have results / effects.

In your case your Twinsoul came into your life and left it again. This DOING of course had an effect on you; in your case getting your on your way towards your own purpose.
But the point is your twinsoul became the CAUSE (his coming and leaving) for the EFFECT (you realizing you have to find unconditional love in yourself) - and in that sense there was Karma involved.

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I'm sorry, but that article in the link above describes every relationship....

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posted February 03, 2009 11:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for oneruledbymars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lol
I kind of thought that too Lady Neptune but I didnt want to say anything. lol

DD:
This is deep.
There is a profound connection between you and I.
I can count on one hand how many people can make me think as deeply as you have tonight.

But you are totally right. He is part of the grand plan.
I mean we chose this. So we were destined to meet each other. And the relationship was intense. Perfect actually. I can't think of one negative moment between us. He treated me with the utmost kindness. Even when he "ran". In our last conversation, I said goodbye. And he said "No" Its never goodbye. Only see you later" I walked away with tears in my eyes. The first time we kissed each other. He pulled away from me, and looked at me for a few minutes and said "Who are you?". I laughed it off. But ironically in the end. I was the one asking "Who are you?"
When he walked away for no reason he became a twinsoul in denial.
This too was destined. Not something I necesarily liked but it was destiny. I made the free will choice of walking away instead of creating negative Karma. I thought at the time it was because I was strong. But maybe it was because on some level I could not create bad Karma between us.
All I could do was love him. I remember feeling like I was at the mercy of that love. I chose love instead of fear as the emotion to deal with him almost instinctively. But every single relationship before him, I had always, always chose fear. I am an Aries, and by nature I am self centered. I can point it out in all my dealings before him. But my ego was severely damaged from my meeting him onward.
So within the scheme of Karma it was necesary that we meet each other. It was destiny.
But does that mean we have no Karma?
No it doesnt.
Its good Karma. But Karma is Karma all the same.

So Lara if we incarnate, as 2 seperate individuals sharing parts of the same soul. Then no we have no bad Karma when we are together. I have no ill feelings toward him. I honestly never could. No matter what he does, it seems to be ok with me. But we still have Karma in our individual lives from previous incarnations. Even if the those incarnations were few.
It would be that Karma that we would work through seperately to be together and in doing so create a bond in which Karma does not exist in the negative sense. Because seperately we will have dealt with and "dropped a house" lol (I love that saying) on our individual Karma before reuniting again in the 3D.
Only by doing this will we be able to to conduct the highest level of energy, and operate on the highest dimension of Consciousness.
So would you not agree that as 2 seperate incarnated Souls that we would have to have good Karma in the 3rd dimension of reality?
If Karma is a system of Cause and Effect.

Wow. I have a headache now.

Thanks alot DD!
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One ruled by mars:

That's because we have the same moon sign! We also both have masculine sun signs.

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posted February 06, 2009 10:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for oneruledbymars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lol. Gotta love our bluntness! lol

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Hey, at least we are honest. Am I right?

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