posted August 10, 2009 06:58 PM              

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It always amazes me how many good women are attracted to obvious, pretentious douches.. they just want some guy who speaks up, even if he is talking out of his ass; somebody who takes charge and leads the way, even if its in the wrong direction. Its probably kind of your own fault, a little, though, for not pushing. You earth signs think you have all the time in the world.. then some douche swoops in and steals the girl. Thats how it goes. Women want enthusiasm.. even dumb-ass enthusiasm. You earth signs always try to do things the right way, and its admirable, but some douche always gets it done first; half-assed, but done.

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posted August 10, 2009 08:17 PM            

I dated a lot of Picseans and Scorpios (with the occational Cappy) before I got to my Taurus hubby.

It also dosen't hurt that he's got a decent ammount of fire in his chart as well to give him that "speaking up, forward moving" qualities that I needed in a spouse.

posted August 10, 2009 09:52 PM            

So yeah, earth sign guys without enough zip in their chart need to lighten up or find a nice girl to 'provide' for because money ain't nothin' honey, especially if you don't know how to have fun!!

And speaking of douchebags: http://www.hotchickswithdouchebags.com/
... guys being catty to each other lol

posted August 11, 2009 04:49 AM            

This made me laugh:

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Women want enthusiasm.. even dumb-ass enthusiasm.

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Well, maybe girls do, real women don't, at least not this real woman.
It takes much more than some gobby-bollocks to seduce me. If he's going to rush the seduction what else is he going to rush? Ya know, ya know?

It's amazing how lightning fast an earth-influenced man can be if he senses danger from, say, an Aquarian with a sharp wit who's after the girl he wants. Believe me, I've seen it happen and it only took him 3 years to make his move. He could have had me sooner but he has INTEGRITY. I love a bit of integrity. Earthy people have it. And no, he didn't try to outsmart the Aqua with words and charm, he simply sat his big meaty Cappy rising arse on the tail-end of my coat and said "Don't" and would not be moved, and looked at me with big pleading chocolate brown cow-eyes,about an inch from my face. I got the message. It was very effective. No words were necesserehh. No animals were harmed.

He has no fire in his chart and very little air, so why try to be something you're not? Horses for courses.

Mmmm, Cappy rising, Pluto and Uranus exactly conjunct in Virgo, NN and IC in Taurus. Hubba hubba. Depths to be plumbed, yowzer. Mmmm, break me off a piece of THAT. Big tall chunky real man who knows his natural fibres from his nylon.

I am really digging my Mars in Taurus.

Personally I'm rather tired of Leos and Geminis. Had a titful of 'em, bless their douchebag souls. Always yapping away. Yap yap yap. Bluh bluh bluh BLUH. I'll take the bean stew with the oaty bread. Keep your Cheez Wizz.

I would suggest to your friend that if he's being outwitted by fire and air signs, to just literally sit on the girl. She can't go off with anyone else if she can't move.

posted August 11, 2009 05:33 AM            

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Is there a point to the OP?

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Nah, he's just frustrated with douchebags, the women that go after them and his lamo Earth friend. He'll get over it in a couple of decades.

posted August 11, 2009 05:48 AM            

In times like these I am reminded of the Pointer Sisters. It happens.

Slow Hand
Pointer Sisters

As the midnight moon, was drifting through
The lazy sway of the trees
I saw the look in your eyes, lookin' into mine
Seeing what you wanted to see
Darlin' don't say a word, cause I already heard
What your body's sayin' to mine
I'm tired of fast moves
I've got a slow groove...
On my mind

I want a man with a slow hand
I want a lover with an easy touch
I want somebody who will spend some time
Not come and go in a heated rush
I want somebody who will understand
When it comes to love, I want a slow hand

On shadowed ground, with no one around
And a blanket of stars in our eyes
We are drifting free, like two lost leaves
On the crazy wind of the night
Darlin', don't say a word, 'cause I already heard
What your body's sayin' to mine
If I want it all night
You say it's alright
We got the time

'Cause I got a man with a slow hand
I got a lover with an easy touch
I found somebody who will spend some time
Not come and go in a heated rush
I found somebody who will understand
When it comes to love, I want a slow hand

If I want it all night
Please say it's alright
It's not a fast move
But a slow groove
On my mind

'Cause I got a man with a slow hand
I got a lover with an easy touch
I found somebody who will spend some time
Not come and go in a heated rush
I found somebody who will understand
When it comes to love, I want a slow hand

posted August 11, 2009 11:10 AM            

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I would suggest to your friend that if he's being outwitted by fire and air signs, to just literally sit on the girl. She can't go off with anyone else if she can't move.

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Interesting advice, wheels.
I personally appreciate a bit of possessiveness in a relationship. I also like being the woman(duh!), the pursued one, the prize. Sometimes role reversal is fun but don't let me believe I have conquered you. (Power games are a great past time activity )

You want me? Come and get me.

Want to keep me? Make an effort, engage me, amuse me, make love to me like no one before and I'm yours.

Don't want me? See you later. Have a nice life and don't let the door hit you in the a$$.

"Live and let live" is a fine line in a romance novel.

"Go get what you want and don't let it go without a fight" is what I live by.

Life's too friggin' short and we are not getting any younger.

posted August 11, 2009 11:29 AM              

Great link!
Hot chicks w/ douches, indeed.
Its a freaking epidemic!

Wheels,

I'm on a crappy laptop with no mouse and copy/pasting is a b!tch, or I would specifically point out the half-dozen witticisms you just tickled me with. Of course, you make good and necessary points, but, then, so did I. Between the two of us, we may yet get the whole story told. Anyway, I was probably being hasty and harsh with my earthy friend, who is most likely innocent of the afore-mentioned charges. As I told him this morning, I believe I may have contracted a slight case of bias on account of a few recent encounters with several slow-poke earthers. I would, though, have to disagree with you on counting your Cappy Ascendant friend as an earthy person, unless he has an especially strong Saturn, or at least a few strong aspects from his personal planets to those generational Virgo influences. I've got a Cappy Rising myself, a Virgo NN, a Taurus Chiron and IC, as well as a nice little sextile from Saturn (asc ruler) in Virgo to my Stellium on the MC. While I'm more than willing to credit these energies for providing me with a good deal of appeciation for quality and even a semblence of integrity, lol, I would not go so far as to suppose that they qualify me as a significantly earthy person.

Yin,

posted August 11, 2009 11:52 AM            

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As I told him this morning, I believe I may have contracted a slight case of bias on account of a few recent encounters with several slow-poke earthers

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He has got a laser show of aspects from that generational Pluto/Uranus thingy. In my ponderings of him he's as much earth as water, but open to discussion. (ETA: Well, maybe not, considering all the aspects to Neptune in Scorp). Never seen such a mad chart really. What say you?

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"Go get what you want and don't let it go without a fight"

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posted August 11, 2009 02:08 PM            

As an Earth sign male, I've never had trouble getting together with Masculine Suns or Cancer Suns. I've had trouble with fellow Earth signs and the other two water signs. I haven't had much opportunity with the other water signs to tell the truth, so I'm not sure how that would be. Pisces might mess with my own Mutable energy too much. With Earth signs, I've had a couple near hook-ups, but they didn't materialize. It's a strange dance. Definitely feminine in nature. It's too bad. Wouldn't mind lezzing out with some feminine signs from time to time.

posted August 11, 2009 03:04 PM            

It's interesting - I have this damn unaspected Virgo sun in the 5th, Mars Taurus and rising.... and I dig on the earthy males but in the long-term I've found that maybe I need to stay away from the ones with too much earth lol. I think it's difficult at times because as much as I like the *solidity* of a relationship, if you can't strike a balance between seriousness and fun, then it's just not going to work in the long-term, period.

And yeah, earthy guys WILL move VERY fast IF they see and know what they want, because they won't want anyone else to have it
That, I like. But can't that be said about most men ? Hmmmmm ....

I also prefer to take things slowly in the beginning too (despite my feelings usually getting the best of me, which is why I will try to breathe through the feelings lol)... but then once I'm in, I want the excitement and zaps of change. I SO cannot handle ruts in relationships. It drives me nuts. I wonder sometimes if it's my Moon/Uranus opposition.... staying one way with someone for a looong time is SO effing BORING. And I don't mean fidelity - I mean the whole routine of the thing can get monotonous.
It's probably my own past (rather boring and emotionally draining) marriage experience talking, so I dunno.
All I know is that I came close to killing myself (literally) in that suburban hell.

posted August 11, 2009 03:14 PM            

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All I know is that I came close to killing myself (literally) in that suburban hell.

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This resonated with my situation quite a bit.

I'm actually surprised to find myself alive every morning I wake up.

posted August 11, 2009 03:52 PM            

Oh, that's too funny.

posted August 11, 2009 04:15 PM              

Whole Signs Rule!!!

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That Taurean, eh?

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Mostly, yeah. But what irks me
is the thought that she might be right,
and I wasnt offering quality.
I'll be nursing this grudge at least
until I reincarnate as a Sag.

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What say you?

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I say its one hell of a cool chart, but Kurt Cobain's is the "maddest" i've seen. Nietzsche's is sick, too. Okay.. well, the Sun/Saturn is wide and in Pisces, so, I'm not going to concur with AG on that. However, Saturn tightly opposing the Virgo planets, and in stellium with Chiron, Mars, and Mercury definitely speaks to me. The square to Jupiter is intriguing too, especially in light of the entire configuration. Oh, and Mars in Pisces exactly trine Neptune is one of the coolest things I've ever heard of. And, hey, his Venus conjuncts my Moon by a few minutes... I bet he would take a shine to me. And in the first house; he probably looks like a young Paul Newman or something, eh? You should call him Slow Hand Luke. Then ask him if he wants to trade charts with me.

posted August 11, 2009 06:47 PM            

Katatonic, yeah... I think I will start that thread in a few mins here. It's going to be a long post though