posted November 07, 2020 09:53 PM            

What if ..

(call me a healthy skeptic)

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I'm seeking asteroids this eve and realise how #11 yes 11 is given to Parthenope.
She's a Siren. They are the voices who lead sailors or men to their deaths.
What IF the whole TF thing is some ruse?
It deserves a debate. I'm on neither side but I'd like to see the evidence that it wasn't created to cause such grief, loss and other unhappy emotions. I've read comments on the twin flame video. Many end up broken hearted, lonely, if married and told with lesser Divine mate, divorced. Much happiness can occur but that blade is double edged.

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posted November 07, 2020 11:15 PM            

Chanterelle,

Ooops, I just added to it. lol

I'll respond to you ..

Was the part of the Twin Flames following.
because neither of mine/I were. I was trying to figure it out, it was a huge when we met.
So you met yours too? Does he feel that connection as solidly as you?

I do agree the framing is rather finite. As though it was dreamed up by a league of Astronauts. "Let's get teams of couples launched on (insert planet)" .. Idk. lol

posted November 08, 2020 12:08 AM              

Romantic twin soul connections are somewhat rare, though do seem to be becoming more common as we get closer to the really big changes scheduled.

It's an over idealized subject for sure. Twin Souls when they do come into each other lives in a romantic sense, often come in to catalyze growth.

Well growth is rarely ever easy and rarely comes without pain, challenge, friction, and difficulty.

But besides my deep and hard won trust in the Cayce work--on a very deep, deep Soul and even more so Spirit level, I know that twin souls exist, but just is misunderstood and often misused.

The New Age is such a business and many prey off people who are lonely or who have broken hearts. You especially see this in a lot of Youtube Tarot readers, who very casually use the term twin flames etc.

The thing is, ultimately we are all One, and we experience various lessons, energetic interactions, help others, etc, etc on various different levels with all kinds of connections and relationships. It's just with twin souls that the connection often feels particularly intense on a Soul level, and that's why they can be such a catalyst towards growth and balance. Because they really hit us hard in our hearts.

My partner and I are twin Souls, and from a Spirit perspective, we have played many, many different roles between different Souls connected to our respective half of Spirit. We have been father-daughter, mother-son, lovers/mates, co-workers/friends who couldn't be together for various reasons, quite often one of us dies well before the other one for some reason, and sometimes we don't incarnate together but one Soul stays in the nonphysical to act as a guide/helper for the other.

I guess my deeper point is that even if they do exist (and I know beyond a doubt at this point that they do), they should not unduly be put on a pedestal and obsessed over. If we lose sight of our connection to the Whole, to Source, to Universal Love, then twin soul becomes a hindrance, and what happens then? Our Expanded/Higher/Spirit self level will be, "nanh uh for you, you need to do some growing up before such a connection can come into your life".

This is the hard truth. And as mentioned, they don't necessarily stay in your physical life if you do happen to meet. It all depends on what benefits yours and/or their spiritual growth the most. But repressing or suppressing the truth of such connections because of the emotional pain involved, is also not a path of wisdom. Because whatever one represses/suppresses, often eventually comes back with a vengeance in a stronger form to be consciously dealt with and worked on.

Same reason why suicide due to emotional pain is not recommended, because whatever you are feeling now that leads you to same, will be amplified once in the nonphysical without the grounding and distractions of the body and the physical world. You think you're in emotional pain now? It will not compare to when you're all alone with your own thoughts/emotions constantly replaying it over in an amplified/hyper way. It is a hell type experience and no one is "doing it to you", but you're doing it to yourself. (It's temporary, until you finally forgive yourself and/or others, let go and let God, and call out for help. "What Dreams May Come" is VERY accurate about this topic and common/typical experience).

posted November 08, 2020 12:35 AM              

I'll tell you the account of my brother, his good friend, and my brothers twin soul. One of my brothers other, "recent" Soul selves, fell in love with a Lass, wanted to marry her. He was all excited by her and the relationship and he told his best friend, hey, I want you to meet her and tell me what you think.

So they met, and after, his friend said, I don't think you should marry her, she's a cold fish.

Little did he know that they started to see each other behind his back. When he found out, he was angry and devastated. He also started to have these breathing/choking incidences. While praying about the situation and trying to forgive her, during this period he had a dream about another past life in England, wherein he was again with this Soul (or rather another Soul of the same Spirit self), married this time, and he found that she had cheated on him and he became so incensed he started to choke the life out of her. After finding this out, he was eventually able to forgive her, and forgive himself, and it was like a weight had been lifted.

But the drama doesn't stop there. In this present life, my brother was born with asthma and had it fairly severe for much of his younger childhood (he came relatively close to dying and was hospitalized a couple times). In his latter teens, he was good friends with this guy and also started to become friends with his friend's girlfriend. The attraction to her was overwhelming for him and her attraction to him was likewise.

Longer story short, they ended up going behind his friend's back. Now my brother isn't like this typically--he has a pretty strong sense of ethics and also a lot of empathy for others--and especially to do this to a good/close friend was very unusual for him.

But, it was set up pre this life to work out karma. His friend was connected to the Soul and Spirit who in that previous life I had talked about, went behind his back with his fiance. They had major karma to balance out, and what we meet out to others, we at some point choose to experience similarly ourselves. It's the Source part of us that desires perfect balance and no debts of pain to others.

(Note, the woman involved in this life--my brothers twin soul, is not the same Soul nor Spirit connected to the two other Souls connected to female bodies mentioned for the two previous lifetimes. But being his twin soul, helped him to work on this difficult balancing in this lifetime.)

I suspect that there was likely something similar going on in your case and with your husband. Sometimes our Souls push us towards things we wouldn't normally do, for reasons that we don't understand and aren't conscious to.

This is not condoning cheating, and this is not saying every case is one of these karmic balancing cases. In some or many cases, it's just hurt people, hurting other people.

And whatever the case, the key is forgiving yourself, forgiving the other person who partook in same. Fully release this burden. Know that only Love is real and what matters. These human dramas we play as Souls are very temporary shadows passing, and while meant for growth, are not meant to be clung to.

posted November 08, 2020 12:39 AM              

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Okay, THAT was a great movie!...

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Oh, I definitely hear you on the latter part of your quote which I left out.

And totally agree with you about the movie--it's one of our favorites. Awhile back, we had a backyard (socially distanced) get together with a group of friends, a fire going, and I brought out my projector and screen and we all watched it. Hand't see it in quite awhile, and towards the end, not a one of us had dry eyes, and it wasn't the smoke of the fire.

posted November 08, 2020 10:17 PM              

Rather than one of us telling you what is or isn't true, be your own Guru. Each and every one of us, has an internal Guidance team/system. They would love to communicate more directly with us, but we have to learn how to attune to and listen to them. They are not easy to "hear" very clearly an overtly because they are at a much faster vibratory rate than our physical personalities/conscious minds.

However, most of us can learn how to tap into that most awesome and abundant resource of wisdom, knowledge, spiritual strength, and balance. After all, a big part of Guidance, is actually learning to listen to a wiser, more aware, and Love attuned part of YOU. A part of you that is more conscious to the Oneness and to Source.

posted November 09, 2020 05:53 AM            

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Originally posted by MoonMystic:

Chanterelle,

Ooops, I just added to it. lol

I'll respond to you ..

Was he part of the Twin Flames following.
Necause neither of mine/I were. I was trying to figure it out, it was a huge when we met.
So you met yours too? Does he eel thst connection as solidly as you?
I do agree the framing is rather finite. As though it was dreamed up by a league of Astronauts. "Let's get teams of coupkes launched on (insert planet)" .. Idk. lol

I hadn't realised you were a bit newer here?
Welcome!

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posted November 09, 2020 11:16 PM            

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Same reason why suicide due to emotional pain is not recommended, because whatever you are feeling now that leads you to same, will be amplified once in the nonphysical without the grounding and distractions of the body and the physical world. You think you're in emotional pain now? It will not compare to when you're all alone with your own thoughts/emotions constantly replaying it over in an amplified/hyper way. It is a hell type experience and no one is "doing it to you", but you're doing it to yourself. (It's temporary, until you finally forgive yourself and/or others, let go and let God, and call out for help. "What Dreams May Come" is VERY accurate about this topic and common/typical experience).

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posted November 09, 2020 11:24 PM            

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Originally posted by Chanterelle:
No, if he’d ever heard of twin flames or twin souls, he didn’t mention it. But he did introduce me to the idea of framing things in terms of ‘givers’ and ‘takers’... and some other things that really changed my outlook on life, helped me get unstuck from a really draining situation, and sent me on a search for answers because it was just too darn surreal to ignore... leading me here!
Who’d-a thunk it?
I’m pretty sure he felt it as strongly as I did... he was only in my life for about 6 weeks. At times I lean toward a past-life sibling connection... we’re both left-handed Libras, his initials overlap with multiple other important people in my life, etc. etc.

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posted November 10, 2020 02:00 AM            

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Originally posted by MoonMystic:
LibraGirl92

I wish I could say .. I have no knowing.
Aside from cards which aren't always right or completely right. Somethings the Devine does keep secret until the right time.

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posted November 10, 2020 02:02 AM              

Before I met her, I was pretty aware of past life stuff via some dreams and some psychic readings from professionals. I just knew that she was connected to this past self--there were also a lot of repeating synchronicities. We are lucky, because these two people received "Life Readings" from Edgar Cayce, and were told that they were twin souls and would be together in the next life.

Anyways, some way beyond chance synchonricities. The Case number of the woman who received Readings from Cayce--if you mix the 3 numbers, and then add a 1 to the string on the end i.e. for her first reading from Cayce--that is the same 4 digits in a row of my partner's birth date in common American usage. 2/8/81. What are the odds of that?

This past life person both was born under, and later died under Aquarius Sun. My partner was born under Aquarius Sun with also Aquarius South Node (a very karmic, past symbol).

This woman was originally going to become a teacher. My partner is a teacher. This woman had an irrational, deep seated fear of knives and all cutting instruments because in a past life, she was murdered with knives and swords. My partner, when she was a child, also had an irrational, deep seated fear of knives/cutting instruments, until one day she cut herself pretty badly, and handled it all herself (after that she was fine).

My partner has had dreams about this person, being them/being connected to them, and in one dream, she saw all the people we now know, and how we knew them in that life, including my sister in law in this life, who in that past life was my other Soul's wife. (Which I also had a dream about one time when I was spending a night at their place).

Should be mentioned, neither of us are direct, literal reincarnations of these past lives and their Souls. Rather, these Souls and our Souls are part of the same larger Spirit selves. It's different than a direct, literal reincarnation thing. More specifically, when my partner's Spirit was creating her Soul for this life, it injected some of the memories and energies from this past life and other Soul into my partner.

Ironically, my past life connected Soul self, actually had some of me injected to make up his Soul. Meaning, though he is a past life time line wise, I actually existed before he did. Because part of my energetics/memories/patterns went in to make up his Soul, we are very energetically and karmically connected. I've had a few dreams about being connected to him in a past life and Spirit sense, including my vast Library dream where the keeper of the records handed us a book about another Soul self/life of ours.

My actual last direct, literal reincarnation was a very long time ago in ancient Egypt. My partner has not had a direct, literal past life herself. She, like most Souls, is a newly created Soul out of a mix of energetics/memories/patterns from multiple Souls from/within her Spirit level.

And this leads me to your other question. I would not be surprised if you and I have some kind of deeper connection, if not in the direct Soul sense, then definitely in the larger Spirit sense.

That Egyptian lifetime I mentioned happened during a time of great change like this one, when A LOT of helper Souls, and Souls from the same Soul groups were incarnated for a definite co-creative work and purpose. There were many, many priests and priestesses then in Egypt and from around the world that came to Egypt, to raise their vibratory levels.

According to Cayce's guidance, especially in Egypt at the time, there were a lot of left over human-animal mixes from the much earlier days when physical matter was not so slow vibratory and set, but more fluid and thought like, and forms were changed much more easily (and even with thought/will).

There was a "state program" to help the people with these mixes in their bodies, to get rid of the animal traits physically and psychologically.

According to Cayce's guidance, there was a particularly intune and guidance led priest named Ra Ta (translates as Sun come to Earth) who became the High priest, who was a spiritual teacher and holistic healer type. He set up many programs to help these people with the mixes. They were often treated as lesser by people without the mixing (in other countries like Atlantis they were outright enslaved and used for menial labor, and often sexually abused--much like African people in earlier America).

Ra Ta had great empathy and compassion for them, and wanted to improve their lot. Some of the programs involved various healing techniques such as group meditation and focused thought, sound healing, light therapy, physical surgeries, etc.

Later on, he came up with the idea to also create pure human bodies by having the option of priests and priestesses with little or no animal traits volunteer to have sex with each other, to produce more pure human bodies for the Souls to later incarnate in.

Longer story shorter, being a priest at the time, I ended up having sex with many priestesses. Many of us were part of the same helper Soul group before incarnating. There was innate, spiritual love already there between many of us, but of course, more personal feelings often develop when you have physical sex with a person.

This past is part of the reason why I have tried, and mostly have, stayed away from the open option that my partner and I have. Because there is a part of me that rather likes the ladies too much, and in that life had created difficult karma around over attachment to sex, romance, with women. Was too focused in my slower vibratory centers at times, when I could and should have been focused more in the faster vibratory centers.

I did eventually when I left the earth with my ET friends on their ship. No human women in space and all that. Spent the rest of my days in deep attunement with my ET friends, who being faster vibratory than myself on a physical level, helped me to lift up my vibratory patterns.

So it's quite possible that you are connected, either by Soul, or more likely Spirit, to that Virgo/Leo Age and cycle, and perhaps your Spirit had a Soul self incarnated as a priestess then, and if so, it's quite possible that her and I had relations. Your Aqua Moon (a very past symbol) for example is likely either near my Aqua DESC and/or Aqua Venus.

Your Sag ASC is in my 5th House of romance and sex. Dunno, I don't think I have seen your full chart ever, so it's hard to say for sure. When I look for strong past life connections, I most look to Moon, South Node, IC/4th House, and DESC/7th House (and their rulers) patterns--and especially to same and opposite Signs being involved.

I don't know what you should or shouldn't do with the man you have talked about. That is best decided within self, but thank you for sharing part of yourself, your life, with me/us.

*Please don't quote, I'm likely going to erase some of the above at some point.

posted November 15, 2020 07:34 PM            

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LibraGirl92

Spirit may be waiting for a reveal later.
Perhaps you have a trigger you have yet tripped to get to this knowledge. Think Indiana Jones. There are certain tests we move through. We aren't always easily given information of value.

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