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mee_chryssa
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posted January 01, 2021 11:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mee_chryssa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello,
Can someone help me interpret my sister's transits at this point and for the year ahead?

This is her chart and the transits at this moment.

She's going to a hard trasit from her Pluto to her natal Mars and I was wondering what could help her and what to be careful for in the next year.
I see that her natal Venus will be transited by Jupiter, so her Saturn/Venus conjunction could be feel better.

I would really appreciate it. http://imgur.com/a/9FKmVnx

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posted January 02, 2021 05:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump!

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Stoika7
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posted January 02, 2021 07:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi mee_chryssa 💙

She's having transiting nodes conjunct to natal nodes in reverse currently, and since transiting Venus is attached to transiting south Node on her North Node, I think she might find herself on a complete new scenario or a cicle might be ending for a new one to start.
Transiting Saturn/Jupiter are conjunct her MC and tr. Jupiter will be conjunct to Venus/Saturn in a couple of months, it looks like she's going to have some major committment or establishment, this may likely be in the professional sphere but with the square to Pluto/DSC/Moon, it could also involve/impact her private relationship area. It looks like a big choice in her life that may pose a challenge or trigger great ambition or opportunity she might have to catch, and that when tr. saturn will also be conjunct to Saturn/Venus square Pluto there may be a struggle to carry out what tr. Jupiter started, which was so promising.

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mee_chryssa
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posted January 03, 2021 06:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mee_chryssa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, Stoika! I haven't kept in touch with her in the last year because she always has some things to do and it was a kind of harsh period for her. I will let her know. Thank you!

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posted January 04, 2021 10:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The link just gives me a blank screen, but (I think) :-

In the natal chart, she has intercepted Pisces/Virgo.

Currently, Pisces/Virgo is intercepted in her Progressed Chart.

But ... is her PROGRESSED CHART interception about to be "unlocked" (in June/July 2021), with the progressed 10th house cusp moving into Pisces?

Note that Progressed Mercury is now opposite Natal Mars and sextile Natal Pluto. ... So her natal Mars-Pluto trine has become a temporary "easy opposition" of Pmercury-Nmars, with transformational Npluto doing the easing.

What message do you think Pmercury (in Capricorn/N9th and P8th) might be delivering to Nmars (in Cancer/N3rd and P2nd)?

[Notes :-

1. Transits to progressed planets show a situation already in progress that is about to take a different turn. ... Transits to natal planets show a situation about to commence.

2. Major life changing events will show as multiple simultaneous aspects between the Natal and PROGRESSED chart. ... One or two aspects will not have sufficient force to make a major life change.

3. Major events/turning points will register through the natal and progressed angles. ... Asc/Dsc = personal and physical; Mc/Ic = course of life path, including career.

4. Major events always involve aspects to the natal chart - usually by progressions, reinforced by transits.]

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posted January 05, 2021 06:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mee_chryssa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Graham:

But ... is her PROGRESSED CHART interception about to be "unlocked" (in June/July 2021), with the progressed 10th house cusp moving into Pisces?


Has already moved to 11th house. Her SUN is conjunct progressed DC.
Well, the whole year she has been struggling to pay for rent and bills and everything in the house, while she lives with her boyfriend, but he doesn't pay for anything. So this is the second time that it happens to her so now she thinks that they are all the same. I think it leads her to thinking that people are only using her. And she found the courage to leave. She moved out. But before this, she was very angry about everything. It has been really difficult to talk to her or even make her see the way out.

I wish I could know what I can do to help her. This is the reason I posted her natal with transits to find out if anything will be better soon or maybe have something to say to her.

The only thing I kept telling her was that she can't control what other people do so she should stop trying.

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posted January 06, 2021 05:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mee_chryssa:
Has already moved to 11th house. Her SUN is conjunct progressed DC.
Well, the whole year she has been struggling to pay for rent and bills and everything in the house, while she lives with her boyfriend, but he doesn't pay for anything. So this is the second time that it happens to her so now she thinks that they are all the same. I think it leads her to thinking that people are only using her. And she found the courage to leave. She moved out. But before this, she was very angry about everything. It has been really difficult to talk to her or even make her see the way out.

I wish I could know what I can do to help her. This is the reason I posted her natal with transits to find out if anything will be better soon or maybe have something to say to her.

The only thing I kept telling her was that she can't control what other people do so she should stop trying.


Progressed Mercury is now opposite her Natal Mars and sextile Natal Pluto. ... So her natal Mars-Pluto trine has become a temporary "easy opposition" of Pmercury-Nmars, with transformational Npluto doing the easing.

So ... you need to focus on identifying the message that Pmercury (in Capricorn/N9th and P8th) is trying to deliver to Nmars (in Cancer/N3rd and P2nd)?

To do that, you need to ascertain what is being "promised" by Mercury in the natal chart ... which requires an analysis of her natal Jupiter-Saturn+Venus trine and the two sextile aspects it makes to natal Mercury.

This sextile-trine-sextile figure is a Triangle of Developing Talent ... in which the trine is a fully developed talent/ability that she was born with, and each sextile to Mercury is a talents which she is working on (DEVELOPING) in her current lifetime.

Thus ... it is THAT (specific/unique to her) Mercury which has now progressed to a point where its developing talents can be aided/accelerated by her natal Mars/Pluto trine.

Hence ... by identifying-and-understanding what Progressed Mercury is trying to achieve (in the context of her personal growth), you can help her to appropriately handle what might otherwise be a difficult progressed+transit event to get through.

[ This comment needs expanding by me but, before doing so, I need feedback from you about what (in your opinion) those developing Mercury talents might be.]

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posted January 06, 2021 07:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mee_chryssa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would say the intuition. She keeps saying that you don't need to have knowledge, that someone can have intuition about a subject without knowing anything. Usually, that's when I come in and tell her that sometimes you need it, because without information, you can be fooled or having wrong thoughts about a subject. An example of this would be highly optimistic that leads to ignoring reality, which she does it often. She has her North Node in Sagittarius, so this is part of her life path, along with work and diplomacy. She can be diplomatic, but she has to work on some things. She learns easily different languages - she is fluent in english, speaks russian, picks up italian really well. People can't tell that she's not english because she speaks it really well and she traveled to a lot of countries - Dubai, Kazakhstan, Spain, Italy, Holland, Austria, Slovakia. I would say that she wants to develop her intuition through experiences, if that makes sense.

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posted January 06, 2021 11:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mee_chryssa:
I would say the intuition. She keeps saying that you don't need to have knowledge, that someone can have intuition about a subject without knowing anything. Usually, that's when I come in and tell her that sometimes you need it, because without information, you can be fooled or having wrong thoughts about a subject. An example of this would be highly optimistic that leads to ignoring reality, which she does it often. She has her North Node in Sagittarius, so this is part of her life path, along with work and diplomacy. She can be diplomatic, but she has to work on some things. She learns easily different languages - she is fluent in english, speaks russian, picks up italian really well. People can't tell that she's not english because she speaks it really well and she traveled to a lot of countries - Dubai, Kazakhstan, Spain, Italy, Holland, Austria, Slovakia. I would say that she wants to develop her intuition through experiences, if that makes sense.

So ... the already developed Jupiter-Saturn+Venus trine talent is an ability to rationally communicate her intuitive Jupiter thinking to others? ... And the developing Mercury skill is one of consciously/intellectually filtering the reliability (Capricorn) of her intuitive thoughts before accepting them as valid/correct?

For example ... her intuition says her live-in boyfriend is ok, but filtering (via experience) says he cannot be trusted to pay his share of the bills. ... And the message of progressed Mercury in Capricorn/8th house (of other people's values) is "let's do the filtering BEFORE agreeing to living together with another".

Hence ... she can expect events during these current progressions and transits to be driving home that message until she (either) gets it (or) the progression/transit is "timed-out".

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posted January 06, 2021 12:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mee_chryssa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Graham:

For example ... her intuition says her live-in boyfriend is ok, but filtering (via experience) says he cannot be trusted to pay his share of the bills. ... And the message of progressed Mercury in Capricorn/8th house (of other people's values) is "let's do the filtering [b]BEFORE
agreeing to living together with another".

Hence ... she can expect events during these current progressions and transits to be driving home that message until she (either) gets it (or) the progression/transit is "timed-out".

[/B]


Yes, that's what is happening now. She is having doubts about her life with him and she fears that she will only find guys like him.

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posted January 06, 2021 12:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mee_chryssa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Graham:
And the developing Mercury skill is one of consciously/intellectually filtering the reliability (Capricorn) of her intuitive thoughts [b]before accepting them as valid/correct?

[/B]


I think she is now learning that. But she doesn't seem to... maybe it will take a while to see the results of her progressed Mercury.

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posted January 06, 2021 01:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mee_chryssa:
I think she is now learning that. But she doesn't seem to... maybe it will take a while to see the results of her progressed Mercury.

This is just one event created by progressed Mercury to deliver its message. If she does not get that message, progressed Mercury will bring other events - and these will be increasingly more difficult (ie. the message will be delivered with increasing severity, until she gets it).

If she still has not got the message by the end of the progression, things will appear to get easier. In reality though, the problem will return when progressed Mercury next aspects something else in the natal chart. And the created events will be even more difficult than in the current progression.

So ... explain this to her ... and advise her to monitor future events, to confirm what you tell her. ... Then, accept that she will get the message only when she herself is psychologically ready to do so.

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posted January 06, 2021 02:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mee_chryssa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thank you very much, Graham! I will do my best

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