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princess_sparrs
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posted December 22, 2010 05:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for princess_sparrs     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok, I have had these since I was young. Just wanted to vent a little here.

When I dream every night or have a nightmare that feels like it's really happening, I never wake fully rested. I feel irritable all day and I can never nap in the afternoon no matter how tired I am. But physical tiredness does not bother me, it is the lack of MENTAL rest I feel like I get.

Maybe the dreams are related to my drug and alcohol use. I have smoked pot on and off since I was 14 and found it very hard to give this up for long periods. I don't drink alcohol every night but at least 3 nights a week I will have about 10 drinks.

I suffer from depression, stress, anxiety which I feel is probably caused by the drug and alcohol use, but without these I feel more depression, stress and anxiety!

When I have stopped smoking pot, I have unbelievable insomnia and after 4 days of bad sleep I find my sleep pattern again, but unfortunately by then I have relapsed and had a smoke, and the cycle begins again. I sleep for 8 hours or more with the aid of alcohol/pot and about 4 hours without these.

I know about rehab, sleeping pills, hypnotherapy. There's alot I can do to fix this problem.

Without going into EVERY detail about the nightmares, why am I feeling like this when I lie down to sleep, dreaming that people are trying to kill me or the world is exploding or I am running from army tanks.

And I keep dreaming about washing in the bathroom at school, and every cubicle is dirty. They're just the same nasty things, night after night. One night I was being chased by a grizzly bear. Another dream I exorcised a spirit from a house. And then in one dream, I took drugs and killed people in my family because I was hallucinating. The other night I dreamt I was being anesthesised for an abortion (I'm not pregnant irl)

Very scary when these feel like they're happening. I wonder if it is the cannabis and alcohol, or if they would keep occurring without it. I used to keep a dream diary and I want to do this again.

The dreams are not disturbing apart from the fact I know I'm dreaming. I would rather just feel like I am really floating down a waterfall, not "oh this is just a dream". Then a nightmare that feels real, not fair! :P

The other night I was trying to determine where I was (my recurring dream is in a stranger's house rifling through their stuff - it is crazy) and I looked out the window. The scenery wasn't familiar but I still remember the view. A tree was in blossom and it was a spring day. At the foot of the tree I saw a rat, or a mouse crawling and then I thought "well this is definitely a dream, and how frustrating that I don't even know where I am". It is just weird.

Sometimes when I tell people about this I think they're thinking "she's making this up" (either that or I'm just boring them to death).

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Stellar
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posted December 22, 2010 09:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stellar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Princess –

Sorry to hear you are having lucid nightmares…I know how those feel. I can really relate to a lot you are saying because when I was younger and dealing with anxiety and depression (and smoking pot and drinking a lot) I would have a lot of these lucid nightmares. I dreamed of all kinds of abuse that was so real I think I may have been tapping into other peoples experiences. And then of course came the apocalyptic dreams which involved everything from mass destruction of life to arrival of new planets and alien species. I could control my own actions in the dreams because I knew I was dreaming…but I could not control the dream.

You have some very interesting dreams with a lot of messages in them I think but I will leave it up to someone more skilled to interpret that. I think that most likely you have a gift and a aptitude when it comes to dreams but when you are emotionally and physically feeling negative then those are the energies that your mind is tuned into and is going to pick up and going to communicate to you. You have potential to have amazing dreams that will allow you to delve deep into your subconscious and perhaps even to other planes of existence. These experiences could bring about a lot of spiritual insights. Rehab, pills, and therapy will only get you so far…in my experience the best thing I could do was unleash my creativity. Once I did that I found an outlet and I found a more positive way to live and express my spiritual side and I didn’t feel the need to turn inward and self destruct. And of course a little bit of love goes a long way my love for my children was able to help me break the cycle of depression. But I am not saying to go get pregnant lol maybe a kitten…

Hope things get brighter for you I would defiantly recommend the dream diary though! It’s an excellent way to sort of study your dreams and even helps to improve the level and duration of lucidity you can achieve.

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GypseeWind
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posted December 22, 2010 10:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think your dreams are a culmination of your current conditions; depression, anxiety, etc. AND the pot/alcohol.

As you probably know when you have consumed large amounts of alcohol (ten drinks is a huge, huge amount) you don't actually fall asleep as you would normally. Your brain does not go through the same steps into REM as it would naturally. They call it 'passing out' because, that is what it is. It's not sleep and does not have the same benefits as sleep has for you.

Having said that; I feel like your dreams are screaming to get your attention.
And they do have some very clear messages for you.

For example the scrubbing of the bathroom could be simply a desire to 'get clean'. Even if you don't perceive a desire in yourself, it's there somewhere. You feel the urge to strip off the surface 'gunk' and find what is clean and authentic underneath. Which is GREAT, and totally normal.

The bear chasing you is another sign, you literally feel like you are being hounded by this stuff, and you are! The bear is bad feeling that is always looming large, out to get you.

So, if you are altering your reality with substances, your brain will filter things one way or another, it has to, that is the way we are wired. And so I think that you will probably continue to have these kind of strange lucid nightmares, unfortunately.

But, if you know all about rehab and you aren't in that head space right now, then I would recommend you go with your gut and do start recording your dreams again.
Quite possibly they could be the bridge from here to there as far as recovery goes, and if that is true, it would be totally worth it to explore them.

I wish you the best of luck!

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princess_sparrs
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posted December 22, 2010 05:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for princess_sparrs     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Stellar ~ it's so good to hear someone has had the same experience, I felt like I was going crazy for awhile there! I'm a Gemini and my head is always filled with creative ideas, so finding outlets for that is no problem.

Falling out of old habits is what I really need to do. I've been in this rut since my teens and I'm 29 next year so I hope to leave it for certain.

It's interesting you say you felt you were tapping into other's experiences, because the dreams I experiece felt just like that. Even though I've not experienced these things I feel like I know every feeling associated. Not pleasant. I felt pain and pleasure associated with what was happening and it was extremely intense.

I'm glad to hear you overcame your depression, I am still struggling with some but I know I'm the only one who can fix it whereas in the past it was all about who and what I could blame it on And I have a daughter I love dearly so who can be depressed about that

Gypsee ~ Thankyou for the interps, the bathroom dream is driving me insane lol. And the bear dream was just not right, we don't have bears in Australia lol (well, koalas).

I'm ashamed of the drinking and the marijuana, thanks for not being judgemental and for your encouragement! I will record the dream diary and try to cut out the substance abuse and I know it will fix things.

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GypseeWind
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posted December 23, 2010 12:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nope, No judgement here, Princess. Been there, so I cannot judge.

Keep in touch and let me know how it goes.

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Randall
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posted December 24, 2010 12:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I rarely have nightmares, but I remember one in grade school where all my classmates were slowly coming toward me with knives, but they kept saying "Wake up!" so I did.

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