posted January 27, 2009 10:39 PM            

Then in the morning after you wake up, try to close your eyes and relax, looking to a spot about 3 feet away into the dark(your eyes are closed) and after a while when you gentle repeat something like 'My body is asleep but my mind is conscious'over and over.Then when you start seeing images (hypnogogic images) your close, awhile you feel vibrations and slip out.

also...
during the day you ask your self several times a day if you are awake. Actually think the answer, as to how you know you are. If you automatically answer, then when you ask your self during a dream if your awake you will automatically answer yes. (The brain carries your habitual asking that question into you subconscious-dream state,)
Then from a lucid dream, which is when you are able to know your dreaming, you can astral project.

The idea behind the dream journal seems to be that your training your brain to differenciate between dreaming and waking.

My best ever astral projection was when my astral simply stood up perpendicular to my sleeping body. I felt like I was standing up,I was so aware, like awake! Usually I just go visit people and places I want to see,try experiments around my house.

I love it!!! But geeeeezz it drains you because your always spending 20 minutes or more writing (each dream!!), the more you practice the more you remember in your dreams until one day you find your writing epic dramas!!

posted January 28, 2009 01:33 AM            

I continue to chase after the ability to do it at will. There is nothing like it.

posted January 28, 2009 05:04 PM            

Do people have different ways of doing it…? ...
...what was it like for you Vinay?.

Lexx, (quote) stral Projection, Remote Viewing, OBEs, NDEs, but prefer Remote Viewing.

Im not aware of any of these, what is Remote Viewing?

I think I’ve had the ‘vibration’ feeling but that’s as far as I got…

Fluke...

posted January 29, 2009 06:03 PM            

I aways wonder how real it is, because there are different qualities of projection, some blending into lucid dreaming...

I became able to do this under a neptune conjunction to my venus/mars.

But your post has grabbed my intrest and I'm going to start giving it a go again,wish me luck.

One of my favorite times was in a place of golden light and I remembered everything it was so realistic, but what is interesting is that I later read that when you dream of golden light there is actually a chemical reaction in your brain. It isn't biologically like other dreams. I would have sworn I was in a parallel universe.

posted January 29, 2009 06:48 PM              

I'm not sure what I do when I am asleep and I have never consciously set out to Astral travel and succeeded.

I have, however, had some very unusual experiences over the last several years in particular.

On one occasion, I had been asleep and then became conscious to viewing fast moving land below me. Not dream type of scapes but actual 'footage'. It only lasted for about 30secs I guess.

I thought I was being shown the distance to a specific location but that wasn't the case. I remember seeing a small ravine/gorge but when I felt like I wanted to go down and have a look, I was unable to and the viewing ended.

The viewing was crystal clear but like you would see through a camera and it was night time but it was as if I had night vision because I could see the shape of trees and forest/bush. I was travelling along probably as fast as a train but about 200m above the canopy of trees.

Another time I went on a wandering meditation to a story of unicorns. I was visualising so heavily that I am totally in the visualisation and the story unfolds before me. It is like you get the aH-Ha! sensation of the meaning and connections of things as the story and images take you along. This was different to the first type because it resulted from an initially conscious place in my thinking but was probably about an hour or so in to an almost dream state.

Another type again is when I'm suddenly aware of a crystal clear image that has movement in it but is pretty much not more than a snapshot. They spring into my sleep time and I become conscious to it like the first example. One example - it was totally clear almost like a photograph but perhaps something could still move. It was a brilliant blue sky and some rubbly terrain with a bit of scrubby bush here and there on this rocky type of slope. Anyhow there was a central subject - a large cactus, with an Indian strapped to it in pale green cotton sheeting. The Indian was alive but like in some kind of trance/unwell state/ or meditative mindset. His head was flopped forward. The message was 'living water'. To my understanding the front section of the cactus had been thinly sliced off and there was some action going on between the cactus and the person's skin. Other words that came to mind were - mohave, mojave, mogave and Navajo, Apache. His/her(he, I think) hair was black and roughly cropped to shoulder length and I couldn't see their face. This was probably viewed for only about 30 secs at the most as well, prob less. I've tried to find out more to see if they used this technique in healing but can't find anything.

posted January 30, 2009 01:18 AM            

Remote Viewing is a favorite of mine as well. I practiced this for about five years, back when I had more time, before kids.

It is related to OBEs, etc., but decidedly different. It is more a form of clairvoyance, as you stay in your body, quite awake, aware, and able to write impressions down on paper using a prescribed methodology. Verification of the "target" (that which you are attempting to view) and feedback is a necessity in order to truly qualify the process as Remote Viewing.

There are varying methods and degrees of Viewing, from simple impressions to bilocation to full blown out-of-body experience, but feedback on the target is key.

It is a fascinating process.

posted January 31, 2009 06:00 PM            

Quote: But your post has grabbed my intrest and I'm going to start giving it a go again,wish me luck.
…good luck. thanks for replying, its good getting some insight on it…I really want to try. !

the closest thing I think I have ever had to astral projecting usually happens if I’m drifting off…then in no time I am just walking along just looking at my feet, and the path…or stairs…then all of a sudden I trip over…and I’m back in the room, startled. Feels like ‘falling back’ then ‘back’ actually being ‘up’ if that makes any sense.

Chryseis…that Indian trip sounds amazing, do you think it could be a projection into the collective unconscious..a memory of a previous life?

posted January 31, 2009 07:54 PM              

Yeah I don't really know. I have had only one other Indian scene and it was interactive so I'm not sure of the connection to me.

posted February 01, 2009 01:26 AM            

Links to:

REMOTE VIEWING

N.D.E.

O.B.E.

Robert A. Monroe

ASTRAL PROJECTION

Or Google each topic for more information.

posted February 01, 2009 05:42 AM            

@Ariefairy
Hi there, How are you doing? good to see your posts, well i guess by now after all these posts you must have got some insight into this subject, isn't it.
Well regarding astral projection there are times when body feels exhausted as if much of energy has been absorbed around the surrounding atmosphere.

@LEXX

Well thanks for links buddy.

@Chryseis

Well thanks for sharing your views, it provides a new insight into this subject.Well couldn't get what's that Indian trip?

@Ra

posted February 01, 2009 06:18 AM            

R u online now?
Well couldn't get what's that Indian trip you mentioned above?

posted February 01, 2009 02:35 PM              

The second scene was with 3 young Indians(native american)15-17yrs prob, sitting close around a miserable fire in an icy clearing.

The light was dark winter afternoon so everything, tho in colour was in varying shades of black and white.

The trees were tall and thin and closely knit - the trunks looked black. Circling the clearing were whitish wolves. The Indians seemed to be a bit impatient/wary but were generally affiliated with them in some capacity. The big guy would even shout impatiently/roughly at them.

I was looking into their faces as they had dramatic paint on them. The biggest one I could rely on for integrity and he was looking back at me with generally an amused expression - I think he and maybe they thought I was a bit dumb. There was some kind of communication from them, or maybe just the one sitting before me, but I couldn't get it anymore then vague impressions.

It was different to normal dreams because you kind of 'wake up' to it and everything is kind of like your face is 6 inches away from a TV screen but you also feel that you can be a bit in on it too. When I get these scenes it kind of feels like you are way out of your comfort zone. So generally initially when you wake up to the clarity of these really different experiences it feels unnerving and you feel like you don't know what may be fall you - I almost feel too frightened to look for what I might end up seeing - like when you want to put the pillow in front on a thriller movie.

posted February 02, 2009 03:35 AM            

Well thanks for the going through it once again. Well whats your view on astral projection.............. have you ever felt like your energy been absorbed around you, during astral travel............

posted February 02, 2009 06:49 AM              

Hi Vinay, I think that possibly astral projection is enabled to a person. Having said that, I don't know if my experiences qualify under astral projection. Each time though, there was a kind of clarity in awareness and a feeling like you have been somewhere or maybe like you stepped into something like a telephone box to change or to go somewhere. Maybe that is why there is so much allegory to telephone boxes and cupboards etc as hidden doorways in movies/stories. Another example, like when you use a glass bottomed box/boat and your view of the water underneath. Its not quite like that but it has that same feel. Yeah I don't remember the shift(didn't see it coming at all) but somehow you remember the feeling once you're there - it is a feeling; not really a formed box thing.

And I have to say, I have only had 8 or something of actual clear scenes, but have had a string of fairy tale type fantasy scenes. Kind of wandering visualisations that become very clear and you become kind of shut off but still connected to your actual location - because you feel right in it but you're thinking this is incredible and I never new that, or maybe you think how much sense something makes(and yeah they are not drug induced).

posted February 02, 2009 09:55 AM            

...and yeh Vinay I am getting some good insight....

posted February 02, 2009 09:59 AM            

thinking about it..i had an amazing thing happen once, i saw all these things...like , energy, floating around the room...and to my right, everything started to spin, slowly....until i could see a tunnel. i wanted to go into it...but not, for fear. although. im not sure what im scared of. maybe i will like the astral realm too much, and never return to the 'norm'. how confusing.