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Panthera Leo
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posted December 16, 2013 09:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Panthera Leo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I had a dream recently which I can vaguely remember which involved me having to survive a cat and mouse game with this man that looked like the singer Mortiis http://www.stigmata.name/images/mortiis02.jpg
The thing is I don't think he was human.I don't really remember what was said to me because sometimes I have trouble remembering parts of dreams.Though I do remember having the feeling that I had possibly tainted my soul somehow and had to pay they price.He was like this evil maniacal trickster.It was like he was toying with me his movements were so cat like.He would sniff at me and slowly lick at me or put his hands on me.I played along for a while but both of us knew we were both toying with the other.He knew I had absolutley no intention to be his prey and accept the punishment and torment he had been sent to administer.After a lot of mind games and failed attempts to trick the demon he pretty much declared that enough was enough and that it was time to die.At that point my fear,desperation to survive by any means and killer instinct kicked in and a Buffy style battle ensued.Feet and fists were flying,my surroundings were being demolished and were falling apart around us. I stabbed at at him repeatedly with a dagger.The fight only ended when I managed to send him still very much alive hurtling through the doorway he appeared through to his own world by fly kicking him through it and quickly closing the doorway to his world.

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Chryseis
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posted December 17, 2013 05:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chryseis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Panthera Leo,

I'm not sure whether this 'demon' was a thought form or an actual demon type of spirity thing. I think it was a type of demon though psychologically it mirrors a facet of your own psyche - kind of like attracting like - so there is some substance to the idea of 'battling your demons'.

To clarify, you have given form to something within your own identity and it seems to me that this has attracted on a metaphysical level, a type of spirit - but I don't think it can harm you as it is sort of your own psychology that is dealing with the aspect of yourself.

I don't understand the complexitites of these deeper psychological and metaphysyical planes. I think if we look to the eastern traditions there is probably some stuff to explain these demon battles in terms of the journey to our own individuation etc.

I know there are external spirit things that aren't ghosts. Recently, I moved to a new location that has a lot of nearby natural australian 'bush' which is like eucalypt gums etc. I dreamt I was in the shower and an old woman was trying to inhabit me, there was a bit of like battling around where I chiefly felt kind of squashed etc, and then I was conscious of another entity thing that scared the hell out of me.

By this time I had gone into like awareness that I was in the dream state but could think about what was going on. The newer personality that sort of got up in my grill, seemed like a clown.

He said he was a 'groen held', when I questioned it, he said he was a 'poeren bass'. Then I questioned it further and I had the idea of 'fief' come to mind. I googled the meanings of them and I don't think I ever found out what 'poeren' was but it is a dutch surname so it probably means something. I think the words were dutch. And am not sure about the origin of 'fief' but its either my closest recognisable substitute for the other meanings or it was offered up by the 'person' - because fief could possibly have 'frankish' or 'germanic' origins too.

Anyhow, what I derived from the meanings was that he was like a boss of the land - so I think he is like some kind of nature spirit or spirit that presides over an area of land.

I felt freaked out by him and he conveyed he does have the power to make people sick or he can cause dramas/accidents with people - so I'm not sure what his jurisdiction is metaphysically.

Anyway I haven't seen him since - although, nearly a month ago, which was about a month after I moved here. I became the sickest I have ever been in my life. I had a virus that hung around with temperatures, headache and nausea - first week was absolutely awful, with vomiting as well, second week still had low grade temps and general malaise, and the third week I still had some symptoms, even now I get very tired still. During that time, it seemed like a whole lot of plans that I had just sort of frizzled up and I felt ill if I thought of continuing with them. The plans involved moving away from the area. Now I feel all i can do is stay here - there were so many coincidences that made it impossible to carry out my previous plans.

As to why he has given me dutch names I can't really get to the bottom of it. But there was something about a small boy whose family were dutch and camping near a creek, and the boy was bitten by something and got very sick. He gave the time span and I looked it up and it seemed gold had been found here and that is why the family had come here. It was just before the railway came to the area and it was in the mid 1800s.

So what I am saying, sorry, I hijacked the thread, however, I have a point. There are spirit things out there that can do what is perceived as harm - however, maybe they are still part of a scheme of natural laws etc. I don't think I am possessed, however, I do think I have been made aware of some kind of relationship with the land and a presiding type of entity over the place. Of course it sounds absolutely ridiculous and I can hardly believe it - though given the dutch words and the whole story that unfolded, I feel I have to give it some credit.


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Panthera Leo
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posted December 17, 2013 07:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Panthera Leo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think I can sort of understand where you are coming from. Im not actually sure if it was an actual spiritual demon or entity or just a bad part of my own psyche.I guess just hate dreams that I can't really remember all the exact details about.I think a in lot of my dreams I feel like there is always some sort of subtle feeling of emptiness or a feeling that something is just not right.Its like that in most dreams even boring mundane dreams where things don't really seem to go wrong.I don't think I have attracted anything negative though because I honestly think that if I had it would have made its presence known in other areas of my life and not just in my dreams.I honestly believe if I did deserve to be punished then any entity wouldn't waste time playing silly cat and mouse games with me it would just finish me off.

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Chryseis
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posted December 17, 2013 10:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chryseis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, I don't worry about actual harm from things like spirits or whatever either, though I do feel creeped out at times.

I spelt one of the words incorrectly when I read it back and it is 'baas' not bass, because I think I was remembering its meaning which is boss.

Anyway, i liked reading your dream rememberances.

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Panthera Leo
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posted December 17, 2013 11:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Panthera Leo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for replying Chryseis. I hope things are going well for you at the moment.

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Chryseis
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posted December 18, 2013 05:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chryseis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, yes, good but a weird time of things.

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Ra
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posted December 19, 2013 04:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello Panthera Leo

You said you had the feeling "I had possibly tainted my soul somehow and had to pay the price", so this dream is probably about fighting your own "demons". It sounds like this is a "demon" you have every intention to defeat. So, is there a habit, thought, situation, issue, or aspect of yourself that you are fighting with? Or maybe need to?

Sometimes these types of dreams can be compensatory, reflecting an opposite waking life issue. If this is so, are feeling overwhelmed, powerless, or vulnerable to one of your "demons"?

What do you think?

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Panthera Leo
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posted December 19, 2013 05:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Panthera Leo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I feel like most times im just battling with the Universe.I feel irrelevant.I don't feel like a Hero but im not an absolute villian either.I guess I feel like both sides look down there noses at me.I sometimes just wish all time,space,reality,conciousness and existence would just cease to exist.

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