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Ayelet
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posted July 07, 2017 05:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ayelet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi all, I would like to share with you a dream I had and hear your thoughts and interpretations..

In the dream there is a couple. The man is an art student and the woman is blind. The student finishes his studies and becomes a painter. They get married. With time, the painter slowly turns blind himself.

I would love to hear ideas about possible meanings to this dream. Background: I used to write all my life, but stopped doing so as an art. I also quitted singing. During the time I have decided to quit the arts, I used to have many dreams which deal with me as an artist of some sort, and sometimes still have have such dreams.

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posted July 08, 2017 12:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ayelet! *hug*
You even DREAM so Creatively and Poetically!!
haha... you can't deny that ability, in your sleep.

Will process...
Want to check your chart-transits before I answer.

Much Love to you...

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posted July 08, 2017 03:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for colorful butterfly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I study psychology and did study dream interpretations and their meanings.

So what I think it going on in your subcosious is the the male teacher probably representing the male parts to your ego. Male as in drive, ambition, pursuits, accomplishments. The female being blind to the female parts of the ego, female as in weaker, nurturer, caring, etc.

Basically, the blind woman represents a loss of vision to your dreams maybe something that came up at the time that caused you not to pursue what you felt was a loss to you. ( woman\ maternal) Blind as in ( loss of vision for what you really wanted) The masculine part, the male teacher was I'm thinking meant to say that even though you wanted to follow a certain path , the logical thing at the time for you was to put those things aside to find accomplish elsewhere as those things were more practical and you felt that they would get you ahead.

I think this is more about the loss of a dream that you once had feeling it was better to pursue other aspects for work as the arts didn't or felt wouldn't pay the bills, maybe became taxing. Whatever your reasons for giving it up , your mind is now telling you that it was a loss as in grieving to you.

Hope this helps

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posted July 08, 2017 03:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for colorful butterfly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I may or may not be right but I would suggest writing your dreams down when they happen, any thoughts about them that you have and your feelings. Try to see deeper into yourself as to what could really be bothering you. This is really hard to do sometimes.

I once kept dreaming of a black cat and how someone tied it up, I was ****** off that someone would do that. Basically, I learned later that I was changing somethings in me that my mind or self, didn't like very much. I guess opening up my self to much was a problem because for some reason my psyche liked to keep things hidden, mysterious, reserved so that others couldn't take advantage or use it for personal gain. Some people will use your weaknesses as a vice for their own shortcomings. I know mine, I take responsibility for a lot of things that I have done, very critical and hard on myself to do the right thing etc. I just have issues with the fact others don't own their own and project those things on to me.

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posted July 08, 2017 05:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ayelet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mirage, a hug back to you
Looking forward to read your words...

Colorful Butterfly, thank you for your interpretation. That's a male student, by the way, not a teacher. I think it could be true my subconciousness informs me of a loss. I actually don't feel that way, but the dreams keep pushing that issue. I used to write down my dreams, and I agree it can contribute a lot to our understanding of ourselves. Anyhow, thanks a bunch

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posted July 09, 2017 01:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wish I could have dreams like that!

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posted July 09, 2017 04:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ayelet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I'm sure you have fabulous dreams you seem to forget...
This is some kind of story. Dreaming is creative in itself.

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posted July 09, 2017 11:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ayelet:
Looking forward to read your words...

(Thanking you for a bit more time. .)

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posted July 10, 2017 01:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, I just need better recall.

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posted July 10, 2017 07:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello Ayelet

What did/do you feel about the dream? Were there any feelings connected with it?

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posted July 10, 2017 07:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
colorful butterfly, I like your train of thought.

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posted July 10, 2017 08:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ayelet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ra:
Hello Ayelet

What did/do you feel about the dream? Were there any feelings connected with it?


Yellow Ra
Well, it was more of a story, me outside of it, being told like a play, but as the painter went blind I felt as if it was happening to me, and it was harder for me to do my work (as a painter).

Could it be that the "wife" are people to whom I try to help as part of my job? I work with people with emotional problems. And this is part of me getting further away from my former vocation as a writer. Do you think there is a warning in this dream? I am not so sure, as I was not frightened, only a bit saddened. It was as if the world went dark.

It seems to me helping others strenghthens me, but perhaps I "married" the problem, and sacrificing on the way the ability to see the light and beauty in the world. Could it be I'm slowly sinking? Is this story finished already, as I know the end of it? I don't feel the urge to write anymore, and I rarely play or sing... and I thought it was fine.

Or maybe they are not "the blind", but I am?

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posted July 11, 2017 08:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ayelet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Though I agree with what Ra wrote me once, and think creativity is not just in the form - words, colours, sounds and movement - but in our very soul, and so, in life itself.

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posted July 11, 2017 08:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ayelet {{ }} We've just had a harsh deep intense and depressing full moon. Other gnarlies too. There's been a combination of feeling really bright-ish, then the rolling wave down to feelings, and loneliness. With the people you work with, you know, this is affecting them that way too-- maybe more. I know I've been in some swirls.

There are people who are remembering things from their childhood, abuse etc. (I know that you didn't have this?.. but again, you work with a population who are and DO get affected... This places an 'extra pull' on YOUR energies too... maybe even a bit triggering of other things.

My creepy asteroids in your chart show that you could be having a bout with some melancholia. (These will move along..)
That's just 'the rocks' separate from what we 'know' about full moons with gnarly oppositions.

AND !!!!!!! Perhaps some PRE-Birthday instrospection going on. Something about 'birthdays' can evoke a 'life-review'.
(ref Your sense of looking objectively at the whole picture.)

{pssst-- hey everyone? It's on July 20th!!! *Heart*}

Your Progressed Moon has been Libra... and it's finishing off there by end of September.
Your 'feelings' might feel the shift once we get to October.
Will change into a Progressed Scorpio Moon .

This might give you the sense that you just went EXTRA deep down into feelings. ... When that happens, it might bring back a sense of waters and ability to get back down into satisfactory ground for writing from your Heart and guts.

I haven't gone as super thoroughly through your chart as I could. ...
You've passed some transits that were more-testing.
And, you'll be on your way to others that will challenge you a different way...
These have a slow onset, so, the change may not be 'felt' as abrupt, but things in the outside world (that we can't control or foresee) may shift some perspectives. (That's FAR away though... we can talk about that after New Year.)

Jupiter will arrive at your Midheaven (Career zone) around mid-October. That will also have a different watery feel to it.
Can also bring goodluck and fortune in area of career? May make you more seen and 'public'.. as will your P'Moon entering Scorpio (your natal 10th).
Write some things..... consider what you'd want to publish someday?

(If you were my close-by geog friend, I'd sit down with you and do some brainstorming of ideas. Especially if you already have some general stuff started.... At least, I hope the 'thought' counts!! *sending it over the telepathic waves ~~~~~~~* )

More to the Dream now ..............

Male and female creative (painters) energies. (YOU! lol)
... Male is studying now. ...
Taking care of needful activities, establishing self with greater potential by learning a kind of trade.
... The female is (blind)and not capable of doing quite the same thing the male does... but... this a couple, and they do things for each other. One enhances the other... She is 'being there' (resting, holding) for him. She is the Presence.
... The male is providing at this time, some outside-world kind of leadership, taking priority, being a Cover for the female energy. Doing what he needs to do.
... She must 'wait'... Patiently.

"Blindness" ....

When I think about blindness... I think of Intuitive Senses.
The OTHER faculties grow stronger, and become 'enhanced' ... sharper, more attuned to scent, to hearing. You hear things that you never knew were there.

She (female energy) HAS her intuitive sense being cultivated even more. She picks up on things that he cannot see yet. His job is to see the outside world.

He finishes the 'intellectual' learning... and shall become 'as' heightened intuitively as she is. They come on the same page--- BOTH the male and female. They can work on a more equal level now.

Like you mentioned-- you had to put more emphasis on learning a trade, studying in school. You obtained a position and it's your way to involve yourself with the everyday community. This is needful, and will establish you. Give you different opportunities to release your talents. Find out more of who you are-- peering into the lives of others.

In the meantime.... be patient. Things are due to change 'tones' later this year.

Summation------
I don't think you've 'lost' your creativity. It had to become a lower priority in order for you to establish your ground.
Your everyday life, gaining self-confidence, feel plugged-in and doing something you're probably really good at, is very 'grounding' for you?

In the other meantime.... The 'blindness' (your intuitive faculties) is actually helping you to progress!
When you're blind to your sense of writing, THEN you are better focused to 'concentrate' on world things you need right now. And, it was a gift someone gave you... (I remember that--- that's REALLY Blessed, you know?)

Also... you might not fully realize this yet, but, you are learning more about how to communicate with others. They and you placing words to sometimes ineffable feelings?

So.

I'll leave you with two videos.
The one on the Leo New Moon has an excellent description of HOW the moods and creative highs and lows are rolling.
The woman is just Crazy-Creative-Talented!!!! wow. Watch the WHOLE thing... She's amazing.

The latter... is my favorite Neptune vid... you'll see the added reason 'why' when you click the url...

You are Loved! and Cherished! ...
and Highly Creative,
and A Success

(topic) New Moon in Leo-- You are My Sunshine (Barbara Goldsmith) [13:11] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7FonWh7mRo

and the other
Your natal Neptune rx, in H11
Also pay attention to Nep in the 2nd house
(transiting applies).

(topic) Neptune through The Houses (Steve Judd) [7:04] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rCkPPDbUls

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posted July 11, 2017 11:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ayelet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear Mirage - Thanks! Thanks for looking into my chart, and your refreshing perspective on my dream has given me some food for thought. I haven't considered that the blindness could actually be a good thing. I overlooked such a possibility in my effort to interpret. Very interesting.

I also liked the vids you linked. That astrology woman looks herself like a Leo new moon lol, with all that fun creativity!
And me being a fan of Neptune (which, according to equal houses system, is natally in my 12th), I also liked the other vid. Especially that the speaker was blindfolded, which was so relevant to my dream!

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posted July 12, 2017 01:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I appreciated your feedback and comments.
Thank you.

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posted July 18, 2017 04:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ayelet, did you come to any conclusions about this dream?

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posted July 18, 2017 06:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ayelet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Perhaps it has to do with my fears of not being able to create. And perhaps Mirage has a point regarding blindness as a higher, innate wisdom.

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posted July 18, 2017 08:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Perhaps it has to do with my fears of 'not being able to' create..."

F - E - A - R

False
Evidence
"Appearing"
Real

Fear... an Illusion?

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posted July 19, 2017 12:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ayelet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mirage...

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posted July 19, 2017 11:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm glad you liked that one, Ayelet!

You know....*looks*.... looking at my LL name, even *I* am an Illusion?? omg!!!

A few hours after I posted the F-E-A-R, I started listening to some astrologer videos talking about this next New Moon in Leo coming up a few days after your birthday, and this one Beautiful Lady mentioned the F-E-A-R anachronism!!

It goes DOUBLE now!!!!

Be Blessed!

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