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MahaKali
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posted September 12, 2017 03:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MahaKali     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was in some house, can't remember really if it was mine in dream, but I think I just found myself there with some people. Can't remember faces of others, but they weren't involved in ritual. I think I took some grimoire and from there started to collect tools or I just did ritual the way I wanted. I remember, there was circle or probably pentagram I did and the skull on one side, not sure, but I think it was on right. On left side was something else but can't really remember what. I put some, not sure what material it was, but it looked like some plastic ribbons around the pentagram and skull, the one on left side wasn't on its place and at the end of a dream I put it back so to complete the circle. I woke up after it.

What's the point of this dream?

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mirage29
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posted September 12, 2017 07:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a broad understanding of many things.... and I could probably guess at some stuff for you right now??? but-----

I have ALSO been in trauma-therapy groups with people who were "USED" and victimized by ritual-abuse cults and practitioners.

My OWN personal advice would be that (since you mentioned it in other dream-threads here too)--- that there are dark satanic-oriented websites available for you to have a support network for these kinds of interests.

I have to recuse myself.

I've PERSONALLY seen the RAVAGES that happen to RUIN peoples ENTIRE WHOLE lives.

I've seen the trajectory of your recent postings??

Your life seems to having taken a turn into the DARKER side of the Occult interests threshold now...??

Please allow me to recommend a "trustable" person you might want to follow and use as a guide for a while...?
(oh, but then, you're out in Eurasia?)
You're reaching a site hosted in and from USA America.

Scarlet Moon "Nico"
He knows and understands the DARKer OCCULT as well as lighter forms of magic.

I have liked the way this person seems to present himself.

If you want to keep your interests America-based, then go to his website, partake in his community, and you may find some "safer" individuals.

And wish Nico a Happy Birthday... I think its today or yesterday or tomorrow?? LOL

Nico aka ScarletMoon,
aka ScarletMoonMagic.
- http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVwL23x69gt2XUPdgF2Nb4Q

He has Question/Answers times.
You might submit your dream material to him. Who knows?
He might 'interpret' your dream or vision there.

He does a good job. Goes into depth and VERY GROUNDED and practical.

Otherwise, find black-arts coven or practitioners within the borders of your own geography and country.

Good luck to you.


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MahaKali
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posted September 13, 2017 07:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MahaKali     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well I am interested in darker side of occult just as in light side. I think that you have to find balance between these two, since the one wouldn't exist without the other. The point is clear, it is bad when there is too much dark, but it is not good when you're looking only for light side, cause you're making yourself blind,running from something you don't understand, hiding being scared to face with it, trying to reach the something up without looking down there. You have to meet your dark side, so to use your light side in right way. My beliefs are a bit complex so to put everything here, so I will stop with complex explanations.

Other thing I wanted to say is, I really don't need help of anyone. I'm not part of any organization and will not join any in future, I walk my occult path alone, and I'm not confused or anything, nobody has impact on me in the way me to follow some people and get manipulated by them and ruin my life or similar. I'm very aware of myself and I'm very aware of occult forces, right and left hand path, I've been studied occult for a very long time, been studied beliefs of many cultures all over the world, tired to connect it and find similarities etc and have some occult experiences as well. I don't follow any satanic websites. I possess many books on satanism at home, from those pretty ancient ones to newer, many authors, grimoires well known, like those totally unknown. Same goes to literature of right hand path. I am the one who think my own head without some cult or sect, and use my knowledge wisely.

As Satanism is not dogma, you have many types of Satanism, from atheistic LaVeyan to theistic satanism, devil worship, luciferianism etc. I find myself in theistic luciferianism, through Gnosis you enlighten yourself, the balance of light and darkness as I mentioned before. Evil things people do here on earth has nothing to do with possession of the devil, it is their own will, as all of us have our free will to do what we want. Those who claim that they kill, sacrifice and do many other bad things in the name of Satan are not satanists, but psychopaths and idiots, spiritual evil has nothing to do with evil on this earth. Same I have to say for many satanic organizations and those who involve themselves there without firstly use their head, those who ruin their own life by letting wrong people to manipulate with them are weak personalities, I don't have to say anything else.

I just wanted to have an answer on the dream that has nothing to do with too much visits of satanic web sites. If you play with a cat, it can mean you adore cats generally, but if you play with a cat in a dream, it can have some other meaning. Same goes with my satanic ritual.

Sorry but I had to put my words here, cause I'm really sick of constant opinions on theme on Satanism and unnecessary reactions on it and also the most annoying thing, when someone tries to give me advice and help me without even knowing me. Christians are those who need help to escape from brainwashing.

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mirage29
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posted September 13, 2017 02:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MahaKali:
Well I am interested in darker side of occult just as in light side. I think that you have to find balance between these two, since the one wouldn't exist without the other. The point is clear, it is bad when there is too much dark, but it is not good when you're looking only for light side, cause you're making yourself blind,running from something you don't understand, hiding being scared to face with it, trying to reach the something up without looking down there. You have to meet your dark side, so to use your light side in right way. My beliefs are a bit complex so to put everything here, so I will stop with complex explanations.

Other thing I wanted to say is, I really don't need help of anyone. I'm not part of any organization and will not join any in future, I walk my occult path alone, and I'm not confused or anything, nobody has impact on me in the way me to follow some people and get manipulated by them and ruin my life or similar. I'm very aware of myself and I'm very aware of occult forces, right and left hand path, I've been studied occult for a very long time, been studied beliefs of many cultures all over the world, tired to connect it and find similarities etc and have some occult experiences as well. I don't follow any satanic websites. I possess many books on satanism at home, from those pretty ancient ones to newer, many authors, grimoires well known, like those totally unknown. Same goes to literature of right hand path. I am the one who think my own head without some cult or sect, and use my knowledge wisely.

As Satanism is not dogma, you have many types of Satanism, from atheistic LaVeyan to theistic satanism, devil worship, luciferianism etc. I find myself in theistic luciferianism, through Gnosis you enlighten yourself, the balance of light and darkness as I mentioned before. Evil things people do here on earth has nothing to do with possession of the devil, it is their own will, as all of us have our free will to do what we want. Those who claim that they kill, sacrifice and do many other bad things in the name of Satan are not satanists, but psychopaths and idiots, spiritual evil has nothing to do with evil on this earth. Same I have to say for many satanic organizations and those who involve themselves there without firstly use their head, those who ruin their own life by letting wrong people to manipulate with them are weak personalities, I don't have to say anything else.

I just wanted to have an answer on the dream that has nothing to do with too much visits of satanic web sites. If you play with a cat, it can mean you adore cats generally, but if you play with a cat in a dream, it can have some other meaning. Same goes with my satanic ritual.

Sorry but I had to put my words here, cause I'm really sick of constant opinions on theme on Satanism and unnecessary reactions on it and also the most annoying thing, when someone tries to give me advice and help me without even knowing me.

Christians are those who need help to escape from brainwashing.


You sound like a candidate for another community who give positive-slant workshops defending the works and character of "Lucifer" with deep emphasis on needing to befriend your darkside shadow...

If you use youtube searchbar and type in that name and workshops for shadow, you'll get refs for them. They just finished an event, a workshop weekend in North Carolina... (so you can add words to your search). They have a dreamteam of astrologers. Some of them ARE in the DarkerOccult... though not the evil-perpetrating types? It's more education-oriented.

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Thank you for your clarifying information-- that you personally vouch that people who ACT OUT their satanic cult-rituals are SICK PERPS.

I'm a VALID and real born-again Christian.
NOT a dogmatic "Brand".

Not everyone who SAYS they are born-again's ARE, btw.

I can agree with you with the 'brainwash' that goes on in some of their 'own' what could be called christianwitchcraft cults-- as they cast their 'spells' using {what they themselves} call 'psychic-soulish' types of prayers designed to inflict harmful 'curses' (even loss of life and property) on other sentient souls???

I've heard some pretty grizzly ABUSE stories coming out of those brainwashed-cultists too.

IN ALL BELIEF SYSTEMS....

There are PERPS and CORRUPT PEOPLE in Leadership positions in ANY "organized-system" that one can find.

It's REPULSIVE, DESPICABLE, nad DISGUSTING. And doesn't even need to be 'dogma/philosphy'.

I disagree with you that Satanism is not dogmatic???? Oh yes it is.
And eastern belief systems are TOO, even though they call themselves 'philosophy' instead. Dogmatism is EVERYWHERE you have strict protocols, and humans going by 'letter of the law' rather than the Life-Giving part of it.

It's people who do NOT 'Honor the Code' called above-all "DO NO HARM" ....

What Jesus added, with his Incarnation, was his command (to his followers) to LOVE, and to be people of COMPASSION with one another.
He also more-emphasized that you need Connection (Centering and Solidifying with GOD, with Source)-- and WALK "IN" and with that Connection.

Many Christian churches thump their Bibles, and FAIL the Love-Connection!!
(That makes me feel super sad inside.)

I've always Walked (no matter what I delved into, during my long life) with an Open mind and wider-Understanding-attitude towards others and their personal Belief Systems.

I guess, with my approach to try to HELP YOU, when "ANY PERSON REQUESTS" an opinion on an interpretations....

Part of what I needed (and neglected) to recognize and express is that I DO a deeper and more thorough innersearch, to bring in a (hopefully) fuller-understanding and viewpoint for the symbols presented.

I usually go into DEPTH Research about symbolic items, and ... (that would have meant for you, that I would) include delving into the religious masks, deeper knowing of the rituals (etc) involved, before attempting to form an answer to a dreamer's query.

so.... OKAY......
(clearing and having explained my own "personal triggers" here in above two posts)--


If you are looking for "very GENERAL INFORMATION." ------

I'd state it with the following offering of words.


You have a left side, a right side represented.

With you being into shadow, there is an imbalance in the flow presented, of some kind.

One side (of your issue) is NOT as authentic-- (plastic, missing, un-formed, misshaped, not linked properly) as (whatever for you represents) 'status quo'-- and a part of your structured psyche needs it to be, in order to 'make sense' of what's in front of you.

Even though you are prepared with tools and facts, you still don't have the overarching understanding of processes you need.

This might require more Time and maturation to gain the self-mastery you soooo greatly yearn and desire, to do so.

Be patient with yourself, and allow yourself Time to Grow. You're doing the best job you can.

You can't accelerate, without paying a heavy cost to do shortcuts that might NOT bring you the result you desire.

Slow and Steady.
Good Foundations and Patience internally
will let the outside-pieces (you already have) to come together to work excellently.

This undeveloped (younger) piece is not 'in integrity' (meaning-- not as mature, or ready for blending);
or not yet ready to be assumed-into-the-whole, as would normally be 'required' (by your psyche, your mind), in accordance to its own 'form' of understanding or mentation?

Reminds me of children who have genius IQs, but sorely lack maturation of the other developmental points they need in order to be a WHOLE adult person.

You can't coax or jimmy any kind of 'fix' that Time REQUIRES.

Like a good stew....
you can add all the vegetables, ingredients...
but it needs TIME to become Good Stew.

Be Patient with your self....
You are eager and willing to do a good job.
Let TIME do Her Work in you....

You are STILL a Work in Progress.

I hope some of that makes sense to you.
If/when I get more ideas, (if that didn't make associations for you), I'll add more replies.

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Ayelet
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posted September 13, 2017 07:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ayelet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello MahaKali,
It seems like you are working in your dream to manifest something you desire in real life. I am unfamiliar with the meaning of the pentagram. You seem to posses a wealth of knowledge in the occult. What do the pentagram, ribbons and skull symbolise? What are they usually used for? Perhaps meditating upon their meaning could give you a key to
what is troubling you, or what you are trying to achieve. Think if there is any wish or project you want to bring to life. If you want, you can write here what you know of the symbols and tools you use in your ritual, and we can discuss them. Also think on right and left. Masculine and feminine elements perhaps? Or maybe right hand path and left hand path? Whatever is on the left needs to be fixed for you to bring something in your life to completion. Is it about passivity and receiving? Is it about the shadow side? You have the answers.
I guess plastic is never used in rituals, or am I mistaken? Please confirm. If that is correct, then something might be wrong with the ritual.to know what is wrong, or artificial, you may need to know the use of ribbons in ritual.
The presence of other people who do not participate in the ritual may show you are aware of society, but you don't take others into your inner circle.

I'd love you to share your thoughts.

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Ayelet
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posted September 14, 2017 12:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ayelet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Perhaps you don't know the meanings of skull, ribbons and pentagram. Then we may search for answers together.

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SecretGeek
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posted February 18, 2018 09:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MahaKali:
I was in some house, can't remember really if it was mine in dream, but I think I just found myself there with some people. Can't remember faces of others, but they weren't involved in ritual. I think I took some grimoire and from there started to collect tools or I just did ritual the way I wanted. I remember, there was circle or probably pentagram I did and the skull on one side, not sure, but I think it was on right. On left side was something else but can't really remember what. I put some, not sure what material it was, but it looked like some plastic ribbons around the pentagram and skull, the one on left side wasn't on its place and at the end of a dream I put it back so to complete the circle. I woke up after it.

What's the point of this dream?


It could be to show you that you think you will always be powerful and therefore never powerless.

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posted February 19, 2018 12:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good responses.

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