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LF DX
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posted December 14, 2017 02:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LF DX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've decided to share my first real jazz composition, even if I'm not necessarily a good piano player or a good drummer, and not understanding the jazz progressions that well

https://soundcloud.com/luisfer-torres/the-big-gamble

This is for the Scorpio woman i must say, this is how far my emotional currents can be.

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mirage29
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posted December 14, 2017 10:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
[QUOTE]Originally posted by LF DX:
http://soundcloud.com/luisfer-torres/the-big-gamble


(energized your link by removing the 's' from https)

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Pearlty
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posted December 15, 2017 08:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pearlty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Listened to this last night LF..
Well done & very smooth feeling.
Are your Jazz influences from our part of the world or yours? Oh and you grew out your hair it looks like?
I like it on you


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LF DX
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posted December 15, 2017 09:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LF DX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Pearlty:
Listened to this last night LF..
Well done & very smooth feeling.
Are your Jazz influences from our part of the world or yours? Oh and you grew out your hair it looks like?
I like it on you



More from your part, albeit I've heard some good jazz from around the world, from Japan mostly. The song that inspired me was this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wy-v-FgiUD8&feature=youtu.be

A beautiful piece from an Ethiopian composer.

And, now I have short hair, that pic was from earlier this year xD.

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posted December 15, 2017 10:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Long or short hair-- We're just darn proud of you, and enthusiastic for your Growth as an artist (and as a person) here.

Your composition--

That was a very interesting unique use of snare(?) drum. Especially in the beginning, it sounded as though it were it's own voice, wanting to 'say' something in the contrast to the rest of the more homogeneous sounds. The rest of the instruments were its 'background', until they all started to blend past the midway point.

(I could almost sense a 'political' statement in that also.. yeh)

Very nice.
Ended it on an very interesting, very warm resolving nice honey chord . ahhh.

In the future, it will be interesting to use this as a base for a vocal overlay. Imagining... How are you going to use that 'broth' (as an accompaniment)? What stories and narratives will these sounds support-- using a human voice, lyrics?


I didn't hear the traditional 'jazz' expression in it?

Maybe that's because of my own tastes?

I am very accepting of a wide array of sounds and the organization of instruments, but over the past 10 years, I've found myself having 'trouble' jazz (in general), and with the sound of saxophones (in particular).

Personally, saxophone-sonics affect the physical body-nerve-problem I have now. I used to 'accept' and tolerate 'around' the saxophone pretty readily, but now... I just try to avoid and get away from that 'ratty'-sounding sonic.
(~oh my. It's a great instrument, and there have been outstanding blues solos and artists that have exquisitely use them.
It's personal, in that this instrument is uncomfortable to my sensory-system now--- unless it is being used WAY in the background of instruments, not having predominance.)

Jazz itself ...

I'm a very 'picky' sensitive person when it comes to jazz, also. I prefer voice-jazz. Have enjoyed that artistry very much. (scat)

It really takes a team of masters to pull off the synergy... Takes a lot of 'intuition' and Hearing-- attunement and coordination with the Muse. There are a lot of notes--- melismas surround a main core-sound. If the artists are not attuned to the pith, it becomes chaotic non-sensical 'junk-sounds', that people (who want to be 'trendy') will call acceptable when it 'doesn't have anything to really say'??? Just making sounds, and 'making up' a false story that there's a message in it-- when actually, there ain't one.
{Fable: The Emperor has no clothes?...}

And.. there IS a general ebb and flow to the Arts, when it comes to Creativity. Some things DO inspire the soul (which to me, represents True Art). Others, are flat-art. Not alive. An 'ugly' that brings no Inspiration... no soul. (I'm thinking of canvas art, and statues here too. Not all of it is Inspirational-- the TRUE purpose for Art.)


There has to be a CORE-expression to be made, that all the added-notes decorate, no matter 'how many' of them there are, no matter how many varieties of sounds come together in order to 'make' it.

Good is good.

(speaking in an all-around general way)

An artist has to find a way to break into that Main Core feed.
(e.g. like being a phlebotomist, with an artful needle-skill, gaining that entrance into the rich Life flow inside the vein/artery)

PIN that Ear, that intuitive antenna which coordinates with the hand (tangible), tapping that core-Invisible-FLOW. Doing that, they join the main pith and floes of The Rivers of Universal sugars, which sustain the Cosmic Tree of Life, alive.

Some people reach out/in to Hear (ethereal floes and flows) ... then with their talents, produce something of art/words/music/sounds/poetry/color that give it validity and honor, tangibly here on earth.

Well... okay. wow.
THAT was me getting a bit more philosophical??? awww

I'm just really loving all our Beautiful Creatives here at LL.

You all are so Special.

Each, with their unique voice and Gift--
You are Channelers.

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LF DX
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posted December 15, 2017 11:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LF DX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Something very important, I did all the instruments on this composition, haha. I'm just experimenting how far can I go to create songs with all of the self-taught knowledge I know, but it's time to do the higher learning, so next year I'm going to the music college, to learn music theory and harmony, the only things that I don't know.

And yeah, jazz is high level music, that you must have theory, but improvisation, and connection as well, and I agree with the sentiment that you don't need lots of notes and sounds to make something complex.

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mirage29
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posted December 15, 2017 12:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Man!! ...sooo darn proud of you.
Pursue that muse of yours!

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Pearlty
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posted December 16, 2017 12:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pearlty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ditto on what mirage has said.. ^^
Your talent expanding and so forth is lovely to see

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posted February 10, 2018 06:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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mirage29
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posted February 11, 2018 10:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Came across this youtube musician-composer.

This is an example of something you could do some day?

I think the bass drum he operates with his foot is too close to whatever mic he's using?

Seems too "forward" sounding?..
What do you think?

(music) Flow (Shawn James, Overheard) [6:14] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_BHgzmXlnk

Check out the recording studio in this youtube.
The photography/filming, colors, hazy air, are really nice.

(music) Ain't No Sunshine (Shawn James, Bill Withers Cover) [2:55] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIdnpjceg9A

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LF DX
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posted February 13, 2018 10:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LF DX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's something I'd do in the future, that's for sure

And for me it's just the "lo-fi" culture, and that means, not being "clean" in a recording sense, I'm more or less that way too.

The guy is pretty good.

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Randall
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posted February 21, 2018 07:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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