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Ceridwen
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posted August 09, 2013 08:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How would you interprete a four of pentacles as feelings?

All I can think of is, being guarded and not letting feelings show. But that is an expression, not a feeling itself, what is underneath it?

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posted August 09, 2013 08:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This card always comes up for someone that's unavailable emotionally for me. It's a no go, because the person has shielded himself.
I know that isn't really a feeling, but it does reply to my question that way.
So maybe 'feelings of not wanting to share/keeping to themselves'

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posted August 09, 2013 08:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, I would interprete it the same way; actually I think it is the tarots way of telling: No answer to that question.

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posted August 09, 2013 09:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enlightened     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Ceri-
It really depends...what was the question and the other cards surrounding?

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posted August 09, 2013 09:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Yes, I would interprete it the same way; actually I think it is the tarots way of telling: No answer to that question.


It does come up like that too (like: stop nosying around in that business!), but more often the guy/girl just doesn't want the other person in his/her life.

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posted August 09, 2013 10:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for andstuff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hm funny, I'd say 4 pents is a clingy person

Emotionally unavail would be 9 wands

Btw, should we be posting these type of threads to through the looking glass? I know that board is very slow, maybe this is one way of reviving it? Only a suggestion, but since I was made a mod before i realised what had happened.... So should I move them or should I not?

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posted August 09, 2013 10:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Think there are more replies here...
Not sure..
The other one is so slow.
But you are the mod

Clingy/possessive, yes, heard that, but it never really comes up for me that way. It's someone not wiling to share his world, because it is all his! No room for others, lol.
9 of wands as feelings I see also as unavailable but out of the conviction he will get hurt and they are all out to get him. Very defensive/feels easily attacked..
Again, that's how they show for me

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posted August 09, 2013 10:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Twirl:
It does come up like that too (like: stop nosying around in that business!), but more often the guy/girl just doesn't want the other person in his/her life.

That`s interesting.
It hasnīt come up for me like that so far.

Actually it kinda surprised me how often that card came up in different relationship readings (for different people I mean), and thus I was curious about it.

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posted August 09, 2013 11:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Enlightened:
Hi Ceri-
It really depends...what was the question and the other cards surrounding?

Well, it was more of a general question about the 4 of pentacles, but yes, of course it came up in a reading; one of the relationship potential readings I started today (and did one for a friend offline).

The spread is:

.........1.......................2
....................................
.....................3/6...........
...................................
..........4......................5

Card 6 crosses card 3 horizontally.

1. How the person of interest presents themselves to you, what they show you.

2. What they think of you/ How they see you (ie. Temperance- you're patient and kind, not given to extremes) I give the example because this always throws me.

3. How they feel about you as a whole.

4. Something about you that attracts them to you.

5. Something about you that turns them off.

6. Level of interest they have (or how they feel) about pursuing a relationship with you.


It came up in the 3rd position, the question about how one party is feeling about the other as a whole.


The whole spread was

1. DEATH

2. FOOL

3. FOUR of PENTACLES

4. STRENGTH

5. TEMPERANCE

6. PAGE of PENTACLES

So surrounding cards would here be those in the diagonal view?

That would be then:

DEATH and TEMPERANCE

FOOL and STRENGTH


But as I said I have seen this card coming up ion other relationship readings before.
I`ve always seen it as a very unexpressive card, guarding one`s feelings, but at the same time clinging, too. Sometimes for all the wrong motives (fear of change etc.)

But while I understand how someone ACTS or EXPRESSES like the 4 of pentacles, as a description of feelings I found that one a little more complicated to grasp.

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posted August 09, 2013 11:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by andstuff:
Hm funny, I'd say 4 pents is a clingy person

Emotionally unavail would be 9 wands

Btw, should we be posting these type of threads to through the looking glass? I know that board is very slow, maybe this is one way of reviving it? Only a suggestion, but since I was made a mod before i realised what had happened.... So should I move them or should I not?



You are right, I thought about this as well. But I remember that someone else posted qustions about other tarot cards here, too.
But yes, maybe this should be getting moved.

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posted August 09, 2013 11:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Empress,

if you are reading this; thank you for answering my question about the four of pentacles many months before I thought of asking it here.

"The first card I drew about your feelings towards him is the 4 of of Pentacles. A man is shown on this card in what appears to be the middle of a forest. There are trees surrounding him with orange leaves on them, which may indicate Autumn as far as seasons go. He has a very suspicious look on his face, which makes me feel like he's attempting to hide something from someone. He's trying to sneak off from somebody as to not share his valuable jewels and coins. He has a bag filled with them, and some coins are seen spilling out from this bag. He's really trying hard to keep these valuables from spilling out, but it seems the bag is too small to hold all of them inside. Even without anyone around him, he still seems highly suspicious that someone might be following him.

The following card is Lovers. Here we see a woman wearing a white gown, and a man wearing formal clothing. They are both kneeling down while holding each other's hands. There's an angel like being, a female wearing a green gown that is very long and 'flowy' [that's not a word, but you know what I mean]. It's a soft green color, and it has white daisies on it. She is holding the couple's hand, and there are two white doves flying above her head while holding a pink scarf behind her. She's also wearing a crown, when I take a look at her she reminds me of Empress for some reason. The couple is looking at each other in the eyes.

As far as feelings go, it seems like you may be a little scared to express what you're truly feeling for him. You don't want to 'spill' things, so to speak, because you seem a little guarded & are afraid to opening yourself up to him. It seems like you do feel something deep towards him, but at the same time I see that you are afraid of the feelings. You might think that the feelings aren't real, or that you will (or already have) make the wrong choice if you do decide to allow yourself to openly express, or show your feelings to him. Even though you are feeling this way, I believe he can still sense it from you because your feelings 'spill out of the bag' when he's around. Now, Lovers to me is often about choices. It has often came up to show that there's a decision to be made between two women/men. Are you having thoughts about another man, maybe? Do you have a bit of trouble letting go of a past relationship/man? This might be the reason why you may be scared to fully express your feelings, or to 'commit' to him. Even though I asked what you felt for him, sometimes Tarot gives us an answer that we have to know about the situation as a whole. Lovers next to 4 of Pentacles may also simply mean that you're just unsure of what you feel, and you're having a hard time deciding if it's love, or something else. This is why you're trying hard to keep things 'controlled', or 'inside' in a sense, but I feel that even though you try hard, they still show . I hope that makes sense, lol.
Are you afraid that he may not feel the same towards you?

Now the third card answers how things will progress. I drew the Queen of Wands, which shows a woman with aurburn hair. She has it up in a bun with red and yellow strings wrapped around it. She has a beautiful smile on her face, and looks quite happy where she stands. She's holding a wand, and her dress is an orange/yellow in color - her eyes are blue. She's standing inside a gate, and there is a field behind her, but only corn-like plants can be seen. The skies are a calming blue in color, and some clouds can be seen. The Queen of Wands to me means that she has full control of herself, and what she wants in her life. I believe this translates as things will remain active between you both. I believe there's an attraction towards you from his part, and he seems into you. It may mean also that the ball is in your court. You decide how things will unfold between you both. I believe you have the control to push things how you wish them to be. So in short, it's up to you and your decisions - things will remain active, fiery, intense, and fun/flirty if you decide to go down that path. Just know that it's all in your hands . Just remain optimistic, and confident and you will surely nail this one .

You feel that he doesn't share (4 of Coins) the same feelings/decisions/choices (Lovers) towards you. I'm sorry if your question wasn't answered. It was kind of a confusing q. for me to begin with . Sorry if I'm off..."
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum11/HTML/006045-3.html

Rereading this, I was blown away agian, at how accurately that described me.

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posted August 09, 2013 12:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmpressMendez     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're welcome, Cerid

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posted August 09, 2013 01:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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You're welcome, Cerid

BTW what deck were you using? Can you remember?

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posted August 09, 2013 03:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for andstuff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No no it was just an idea, to move them, Randall made me a mod literally the other day.

Maybe I should just create a separate thread to ask everyone what should be done. Because think of it, we could have a discussion platform just like in astrology 2.0, but for card meanings. Obvs everyone's opinion should be asked. The downside is that that board is slow and no one checks it, but maybe this would change who knows.

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posted August 09, 2013 03:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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No no it was just an idea, to move them, Randall made me a mod literally the other day.

Maybe I should just create a separate thread to ask everyone what should be done. Because think of it, we could have a discussion platform just like in astrology 2.0, but for card meanings. Obvs everyone's opinion should be asked. The downside is that that board is slow and no one checks it, but maybe this would change who knows.


Discussing the card meanings would be really cool actually
As long as others would check it and reply of course.
So basically I am now repeating what you are saying.
A vote might be an idea. And see if it works... If not, we can perhaps always go back to discussing them here

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posted August 09, 2013 03:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I say let`s give it a try.

Comparng our notes about the card meaning might be very valuable.

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posted August 09, 2013 04:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I say let`s give it a try.

Comparng our notes about the card meaning might be very valuable.


Yes

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posted August 09, 2013 04:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for andstuff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ ok i'll post something tomor, to collect opinions, then we'll see how it goes xx

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posted August 09, 2013 04:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wonderingwoman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by andstuff:
No no it was just an idea, to move them, Randall made me a mod literally the other day.

Maybe I should just create a separate thread to ask everyone what should be done. Because think of it, we could have a discussion platform just like in astrology 2.0, but for card meanings. Obvs everyone's opinion should be asked. The downside is that that board is slow and no one checks it, but maybe this would change who knows.


I also think a separate topic just for tarot card interpretations is a good idea. It could become a useful learning tool for both newbies and those experienced in tarot.

Sometimes the discussions about specific tarot cards are far more enlightening and interesting than the actual tarot card meaning itself.

It would be best placed either right before or after the Personal Readings board. A sticky cross-referencing the tarot card interpretation can be placed in Personal Readings as a reminder. Just my 2 cents as a newbie.

Edit: I just now noticed your post andstuff. I'll check for your post tomorrow.

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posted August 09, 2013 04:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for happyaskings     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with Twirl, and can also add that this card has come up for me personally as hold back some pretty strong feelings due to outside circumstances (he was younger and a coworker). This card to me tends to mean that feelings are definitely there, but actions aren't and may not ever be depending on outer circumstances.

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