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peace
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posted February 10, 2006 06:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for peace     Edit/Delete Message
Chaldean numerology:

God=14 reduce 5.
doG=14 reduce 5.

5 is "earth magic" according to Universal Codes.

Pythogorean numerology:

God=17 reduce 8
doG=17 reduce 8

8 is Authority and Power according to the Pthogorean method.


Here's my question:
Which method is 100% accurate Pythogorean or Chaldean?.

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sesame
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posted February 11, 2006 01:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sesame     Edit/Delete Message
Chaldean

(Chal)Dean.

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lalalinda
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posted February 11, 2006 03:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message

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Cardinalgal
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posted February 11, 2006 04:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cardinalgal     Edit/Delete Message
When you think about it, dogs love like God; unconditionally and unswervingly forever.

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Iqhunk
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posted February 11, 2006 06:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Iqhunk     Edit/Delete Message
Chaldean is 100% accurate.

Small Proof:
6 related words with varied spellings match exactly in Chaldean Numerology. Such an occurance has never been recorded in Pythagorean methods.

TESTOSTERONE =METAMORPHOSIS =
TRANSFORMATION = ENLIGHTENMENT =
PHILOSOPHER = CONSCIOUSNESS = 54
54 = 9 X 6 [6 and 9 Mystery]

CHALDEAN = 27
NUMBERS = 27
Their sum is also 54.

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sesame
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posted February 11, 2006 09:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sesame     Edit/Delete Message
Well, the main reason I think Chaldean is most accurate is because Pythagoras's seems more like an experiment - Chaldea is more divine. An example is the numbering. Chaldea seems random and yet nothing can equal 9 so there are rules. Notice how the consecutive letters UVW = 666? This number is divine. 666 = 18 = 9 and 3 X 6. 3, 6, and 9 are so linked in every way. 3 = harmony, 6 love, and 9 Power. These three combinations mixed with the 8 of destiny and 1 of teaching hold many clues. My point is that Chaldea is definitely more than the numbers. I love Pythagoras, but I think his numerology is lacking. To name all letters in succession from 1 to 9 is pretty typical for the thinking of his time. They wanted everything yo be perfect and signs to be in everything. Did you know the ancient Romans had thousands of Gods? I heard there were three for walking through a door. I just mean that there beliefs seem mostly temporal. Chaldean philosophy seems far more ancient and far reaching.

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sesame
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posted February 11, 2006 09:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sesame     Edit/Delete Message
I also wonder about Dog = God. I was thinking the other day that maybe we treat them like we're Gods, but they are more Godly - ie they live in the moment and love truly unconditionally. Some are aggressive, but I don;n know if that's inherant behaviour.

Dean.

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Aselzion
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posted February 11, 2006 06:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aselzion     Edit/Delete Message
Greetings...

Well here's 2 cents-worth from the Opinionated Astrologer...

THEY BOTH WORK.

The Chaldean System is based on a transliteration of the Hebrew/Chaldee letters to the English language. The Chaldean/Hebraic letters were based on the shapes of the star constellations as viewed from the earth in the ancient times.

If you learn BOTH methods, and apply them consistently and with knowledge and reverence, you will discover that they BOTH WORK. However there are subtle differences.

In my practice the Chaldean method produces good results, but they tend to be slightly more esoteric. The connections are more spiritual or behind the scenes as it were.

The Pythagorean System seems to be more in your face, and mundane. It tends to work better in the 9-5 material world.

If one is a good and serious interpreter, any system, applied within its context will WORK.

As Linda before me has said, I suggest that one learn BOTH methods, apply them with knowledge and reverence and IN CONTEXT, and then make a decision as to which is BEST for YOU.

My experience has shown me that they are both valid, and for important issues, I utilize BOTH. Surpirisingly often (though not alwaya) they will both produce the same numbers. And this would be especially significant.

Very often the Pythagorean system will provide numbers that are strongly connected to Personal points in one's Nativity.

Remember.. it's ALL Connected! WE Are ALL Connected.

Hope that helps a bit...

In the Light...

A

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Aselzion
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posted February 11, 2006 06:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aselzion     Edit/Delete Message
Dean...

Chaldean system is not as random as you might think at first glance...

Hebrew/Chaldee Letter / English Equivalent

Aleph (1) / A (1)
Beth (2) / B (2)
Gimel (3) / G (3)
Daleth (4) / D (4)
Heh (5) / H (5)
Vav (6) / U, V, W (6)
Zain (7) / Z (7)
Cheth (8) / Ch ( 3 + 5 = 8)
Teth (9) / Th
Yod (10) / I, J, Y (1)
Kaph (20) / K (2)
Lamed (30) / L (3)
Mem (40) / M (4)
Nun (50) / N (5)
Samech (60) / S (3) does not fit pattern - see below
Ayin (70) / O (7)
Peh (80) / Ph <F> (8) also P sound (8)
Tzaddi (90) / Tz or Ts (no English Eqivalent) also X does not fit pattern
Qoph (100) / Q (1)
Resh (200) / R (2)
Shin (300) / Sh, Sch or just S (3) see above
Tav (400) / T (also Th) (4)

I'm not sure how this will format, but I hope it makes some sense.

Blessings...

A

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sesame
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posted February 11, 2006 11:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sesame     Edit/Delete Message
Farout mate, where do you learn this stuff? Do you happen to know how Pythagoras came up with his method?

Thanks for your input

Dean.

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Aselzion
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posted February 13, 2006 06:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aselzion     Edit/Delete Message
Greetings...

Dean... I study Qabalah, so I have learned at least the names and forms and numerical values of the Hebrew/Chaldee letters, and their correspondences to the Tree of Life and the Higher Arcana of the Tarot.

In terms of Pythagorean System mechanics.. well to the best of my knowledge it was based on the POSITION that the letters held in the alphabet.

However, in Greek and Hebrew the letters are actually numbers I believe, though I do NOT know the Greek version. One of my Teachers in Astrology/Metaphysics happens to be Greek, so I will ask him about that if you are interested.

In the case of the English letter attributes in the Chaldean System, it is based on a transliteration.. or how the letters sound I believe.

Hope that helps a bit...

A

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hatchapilla
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posted February 16, 2006 06:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hatchapilla     Edit/Delete Message
maybe dogs r gods walking backwards..

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Petron
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posted February 16, 2006 10:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Petron     Edit/Delete Message
just thought i'd mention that this thread keeps reminding me of one my favorite bizarre cartoons....=P
dont know why....

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CatDog! CatDog! Alone in the world is the little CatDog!

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hatchapilla
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posted February 16, 2006 11:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hatchapilla     Edit/Delete Message
cat dog rocks

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hippichick
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posted February 21, 2006 08:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message
My late husband always thought there was something up with the God-dog thing. And he swore that Snoopy from "Peanuts" was the God figure/symbol for the gang....

Something to think about..

From Jeff, from Heaven.....

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fayte.m
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posted February 21, 2006 09:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
Funny thing is "vibrationally" the words God and dog are not the same! Only by letters transposed not sound.

Go=gah
d=duh

Do=dah
g=guh

So God= gah duh
and dog =dah guh

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