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Topic: How to recognize true intuitiin as oppsed to fantasy?
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ListensToTrees Knowflake Posts: 2558 From: the capricious clouds, in the land formerly known as Albion Registered: Jul 2005
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posted August 28, 2007 07:39 AM
Now there's a tough one. I've been trying to solve this problem for many years but I'm probably just not developed enough psychically to solve it properly. Developing the psychic senses are not necessarily a good thing; it must happen naturally when a person is ready, I guess because malevolent forces as well as benevolent exist.I have, however been fooled by my heart many times. I would like to enhance my true spiritual intuition so that I can know the difference, Just because I have been fooled by either my heart or that 12th house Neptune thing.....I don't want to let it put me off furthering my spiritual awareness altogether. I expect that the vast majority of people will be in the same boat as me. But if there is anyone who has overcome some of these obstacles, do share "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift.- Albert Einstein "
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Solane Star Knowflake Posts: 4915 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Jun 2005
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posted August 28, 2007 07:53 AM
I don't want to let it put me off furthering my spiritual awareness altogether.I don't think it is putting you off, quite the contary, maybe it's just keeping you in check, so that you don't lose contact with your spiritual awareness Listens To Trees!!!!
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ListensToTrees Knowflake Posts: 2558 From: the capricious clouds, in the land formerly known as Albion Registered: Jul 2005
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posted August 28, 2007 08:35 AM
And because I have a powerful imagination, I hate to get the two mixed up!Of course, occasionally, things happen you just know you're right about, because the signs, your instincts and gut feelings all fall in to place, but this is just a random, occasional event for me. "This is the world of illusion". But not all is illusion. we are creating our reality together. IP: Logged |
ListensToTrees Knowflake Posts: 2558 From: the capricious clouds, in the land formerly known as Albion Registered: Jul 2005
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posted August 28, 2007 08:38 AM
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ListensToTrees Knowflake Posts: 2558 From: the capricious clouds, in the land formerly known as Albion Registered: Jul 2005
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posted August 28, 2007 08:39 AM
Thank you, Solane ------------------ "This is the world of illusion". But not all is illusion. we are creating our reality together. Because this is who we truly are- we are creators; we love to create. And Infinite Love is the only pure truth we need to always hold close to our hearts. IP: Logged |
Solane Star Knowflake Posts: 4915 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Jun 2005
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posted August 28, 2007 09:01 AM
Right you are, but the illusion is only our Ego-s-elf showing up, just so maybe to give us some balance in these areas where we may need a little more balance, more awareness, to break though these Ego-s-elf illusions of separation, so that one can connect with ones Real Heart & Soul!! Love!!!!
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RainbowDay Knowflake Posts: 204 From: Registered: Jun 2007
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posted August 28, 2007 09:41 AM
=) Just thought I'd tell a little story from when I was little... I remember one special episode very clearly. I was walking along the beach when after about 10 minuites I felt this strong urge to stop, bend down, and dig into the sand at this spesific place. After I had dug about 15 cm into the sand I found this unpolished white crystal. I mean, how the hell did I know it was there, right?? I guess that's what I could intuition. I think you can easily tell the difference between imagination and intuition. When it's your intuition working, you know things for being absolutely certain. You know something you shouldn't really be able to know just as certain as you know you're breathing and living. Like it is something you can actually see and touch. And maybe you can, with your mind. I don't know... It's just my thoughts at the moment=) Hope you're all well! IP: Logged |
Solane Star Knowflake Posts: 4915 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Jun 2005
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posted August 28, 2007 10:42 AM
A poem for you Listens To Tree!!!The Union Of Worlds I listen the whispers of The small, still voice within, I feel the awesome power of The sacred mystery therein. And there within the mystery, Of the material and the unseen, I discover my own true essence, Where the two worlds convene. I connect with the essence of My spirit's state of grace, While I learn to embody The sacred lessons I embraced. I stand between the two worlds, Holding both Sacred Points of View, By knowing that the two are one, My sacred journey begins anew. ----Jamie Sams
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Love Knowflake Posts: 704 From: Canada Registered: Feb 2006
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posted August 28, 2007 02:44 PM
Ah, yes I know what you're talking about. I almost think we have to work at it individually to figure out the difference for ourselves. I often wish that there was some fool proof method so that I would not end up in that 12th house place (despite all my planets and asteroids in the 12th - lol).The only way I have found so far is when I have an intuition about something, if it is accompanied by anxiety or worry, then usually it's my mind/ego creating the 'intuition'. But when I am able to feel something (be aware of it?) and I have no emotional reaction to it I have found that this is the intuition we can trust when we're unsure. This is what has worked for me anyhow. I think that emotion (or in my case anxiety) gets in the way of tapping into the truth about things. It covers it up so I can't be sure. Also, another point is when you can stop wanting something to go your way and accept whatever comes, your intuition will increase by leaps and bounds as well. Attachment to a certain outcome confuses the issue. The act of wanting something pushes it away and creates a barrier to self-knowledge, again in my experience. So if you can look at a situation or person with the utmost of balance and the only feeling in your body is one of simple love (without the neediness or wanting we associate with love) then you're on the right track IP: Logged |
ListensToTrees Knowflake Posts: 2558 From: the capricious clouds, in the land formerly known as Albion Registered: Jul 2005
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posted August 28, 2007 03:23 PM
Rainbowday, a similar thing happened to my brother when he was walking the dog in the woods, he felt the urge to kick at the ground and found this old earthen, victorian ale bottle! Solane, the poem
I LOVE it!! Love, That is really excellent advice!
------------------ "This is the world of illusion". But not all is illusion. We are creating our reality together. Because this is who we truly are- we are creators; we love to create. The illusion is we have forgotten who we truly are. Infinite Love is the only pure truth we need to always hold close to our hearts. IP: Logged |
thirteen Knowflake Posts: 1038 From: Rochester Hills, MI USA Registered: May 2004
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posted August 28, 2007 03:37 PM
I do ask my higher self questions when i need direction. After some experience at it i have come to realize that most times i get a correct answer. I have to be in a meditative state. Also i like the point LOVE made about anxiety, and i have looked back and found that is true. I like that concept a lot. Also for me specifically, I get this little fluttering sensation in my soul if i hear some news or think a thought that turns out to be true. The best example of this was when my aunt got sick with heart trouble many years ago. My mom and someone else were talking about it and they were saying that one day she would have to have heart surgery. I got the flutter then and knew she would one day die from this. She did die 5 years later after open heart surgery.I still can sometimes get so fixated on an idea that ends up being wrong. It can be very hard to tell at times, i know what you mean. IP: Logged |
Solane Star Knowflake Posts: 4915 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Jun 2005
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posted August 28, 2007 08:03 PM
Love!!!! Very nicely said, Thanks for sharing that!!!!I find that works well for me too!!! I think that emotion (or in my case anxiety) gets in the way of tapping into the truth about things. It covers it up so I can't be sure. Also, another point is when you can stop wanting something to go your way and accept whatever comes, your intuition will increase by leaps and bounds as well. Attachment to a certain outcome confuses the issue. The act of wanting something pushes it away and creates a barrier to self-knowledge, again in my experience. So if you can look at a situation or person with the utmost of balance and the only feeling in your body is one of simple love (without the neediness or wanting we associate with love) then you're on the right track IP: Logged |
NAM Knowflake Posts: 1930 From: Sunny place. Registered: Jan 2007
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posted August 29, 2007 01:03 AM
Love~Can yyou explain to me why you say: "so that I would not end up in that 12th house place " thank you.IP: Logged |
BlueRoamer Knowflake Posts: 3474 From: Calm Blue Ocean, Calm Blue Ocean Registered: Jun 2003
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posted August 29, 2007 01:04 AM
An intuition or a psychic vision is often associated with a bodily response or sensation... a sudden feeling of awe, body tingling, hairs standing on end, a butterly feeling in your stomach, a feeling of things "locking in" or feeling "important" or "powerful"...as if a line had just been crossed and theres no way back...IP: Logged |
ListensToTrees Knowflake Posts: 2558 From: the capricious clouds, in the land formerly known as Albion Registered: Jul 2005
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posted August 29, 2007 03:27 AM
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artlovesdawn Knowflake Posts: 1177 From: Registered: Jul 2005
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posted August 29, 2007 11:56 PM
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fayte.m Knowflake Posts: 9809 From: Still out looking for Schrödinger's cat. fayte1954@hotmail.com Registered: Mar 2005
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posted August 30, 2007 01:11 AM
quote: =) Just thought I'd tell a little story from when I was little... I remember one special episode very clearly. I was walking along the beach when after about 10 minuites I felt this strong urge to stop, bend down, and dig into the sand at this spesific place. After I had dug about 15 cm into the sand I found this unpolished white crystal. I mean, how the hell did I know it was there, right?? I guess that's what I could intuition.I think you can easily tell the difference between imagination and intuition. When it's your intuition working, you know things for being absolutely certain. You know something you shouldn't really be able to know just as certain as you know you're breathing and living. Like it is something you can actually see and touch. And maybe you can, with your mind. I don't know... It's just my thoughts at the moment=)
Beautiful and true RD! ------------------ "Heaven doesn't want me and Hell is afraid I'll take over and start a rehab for the damned!" ~Judgement Must Be Balanced With Compassion~ ~Do Not Seek Wealth From The Suffering, Or The Dire Needs Of Others~ ~Assumption Is The Bane Of Understanding~ ~ if you keep doing what you did, you'll keep getting what you got.~ Everything changes. Fear not the changes. }><}}}(*> <*){{{><{ ~~~ ~~ ~~~~ ~~~ ~~ ~~~~~ ~~~ ~~~~ ~~~ IP: Logged |
fayte.m Knowflake Posts: 9809 From: Still out looking for Schrödinger's cat. fayte1954@hotmail.com Registered: Mar 2005
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posted August 30, 2007 01:14 AM
artlovesdawn That sounds like a past life memory to me! You did not plan it to happen, but it happened naturally!------------------ "Heaven doesn't want me and Hell is afraid I'll take over and start a rehab for the damned!" ~Judgement Must Be Balanced With Compassion~ ~Do Not Seek Wealth From The Suffering, Or The Dire Needs Of Others~ ~Assumption Is The Bane Of Understanding~ ~ if you keep doing what you did, you'll keep getting what you got.~ Everything changes. Fear not the changes. }><}}}(*> <*){{{><{ ~~~ ~~ ~~~~ ~~~ ~~ ~~~~~ ~~~ ~~~~ ~~~ IP: Logged |
fayte.m Knowflake Posts: 9809 From: Still out looking for Schrödinger's cat. fayte1954@hotmail.com Registered: Mar 2005
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posted August 30, 2007 01:17 AM
BlueRoamer! quote: An intuition or a psychic vision is often associated with a bodily response or sensation... a sudden feeling of awe, body tingling, hairs standing on end, a butterly feeling in your stomach, a feeling of things "locking in" or feeling "important" or "powerful"...as if a line had just been crossed and theres no way back...
It is indeed often a moment of unattached eureka!------------------ "Heaven doesn't want me and Hell is afraid I'll take over and start a rehab for the damned!" ~Judgement Must Be Balanced With Compassion~ ~Do Not Seek Wealth From The Suffering, Or The Dire Needs Of Others~ ~Assumption Is The Bane Of Understanding~ ~ if you keep doing what you did, you'll keep getting what you got.~ Everything changes. Fear not the changes. }><}}}(*> <*){{{><{ ~~~ ~~ ~~~~ ~~~ ~~ ~~~~~ ~~~ ~~~~ ~~~ IP: Logged |
ListensToTrees Knowflake Posts: 2558 From: the capricious clouds, in the land formerly known as Albion Registered: Jul 2005
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posted August 30, 2007 07:46 AM
atlovesdawn, I think I may have lived in that period too.I remember feeling horrified when they told us about the amphitheaters at school. I love the Biblical story about the lion who would not hurt the man in the amphitheater because he remembered the man (name? Daniel?) had removed a thorn from his paw. I had a dream about seeing my Twin Flame on a ship with Roman soldiers, though it may have been symbolic. I love it when Brian on Monty Python's life of Brian says "I hate the Romans alright!!" Lost in a Roman wilderness of pain and all the children are insane.... all the children are insane..... WAITING FOR THE SUMMER RAIN" IP: Logged |
sesame Moderator Posts: 1553 From: Oz Registered: Nov 2003
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posted August 31, 2007 07:39 AM
For me, there is a fine line between fantasy and reality in general. I don't seem to blur these boundaries so much as notice that their blurred for others - especially for such people that try out for "Idol" and "So you think you can dance?" Funny stuff, but a point I'm getting at is that your intuition creates your reality. As Linda stated, it's your "Tuition within" which teaches you about stuff - similar to dreams giving you images of what you feel but might not understand (and yet, do we really understand dreams?) The actions you take that follow imagination, intuition, whims, and ideas are all the deciding factors to consider in your future. You could say it's like your higher self giving you a sign, bot even though she holds the puppet strings, you might not take that path. The influences that take you to or away an event are equally powerful. How many times could you have died or met different people given different paths? There are any infinite number of paths from a to b. The choice you make given how you feel is everything. whether it's fantasy or destiny, the path that results is the one that you've taken. The ends justify the means. Maybe I'm not answering the question, but in short, Intuition is Fantastic!Heaps of Love, Dean. ps. I do like that notion that the positive inclination is the best one, but I feel there are a lot of factors that determine this - have you rejected the other decisions because they're too hard? ------------------ I realized it for the first time in my life: there is nothing but mystery in the world, how it hides behind the fabric of our poor, browbeat days, shining brightly, and we don't even know it. Sue Monk Kidd, "The Secret Life of Bees", p79 Logically Magical Logic is Magically Logical Magic! (and vice versa!) Numerology Program IP: Logged |
MUSTANG Knowflake Posts: 908 From: Registered: Jun 2006
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posted September 03, 2007 04:19 AM
For me, I just know...it's not even up for debate. I feel it to my core. It's strong and can't be denied; the best attempt at logic fails. I feel it to my core.IP: Logged |
Mannu Knowflake Posts: 2015 From: Registered: Mar 2006
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posted September 03, 2007 09:10 AM
LTT, Great post. We must trust our intuition. Its different from intellect. intellectuals cannot make it to the kingdom alone. intuition is required too. lets say you are distracted, then the only way to be distracted from that distraction is to fall in tune with that distraction. thats comes because of knowledge (intellect). intuition can be developed by trying to live in the present, in the eternal now. Fantasy deserves a bit of an explanation. Again its related to our perception of time. I guess fantasies are smaller dreams within a larger dream.
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Mannu Knowflake Posts: 2015 From: Registered: Mar 2006
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posted September 03, 2007 09:10 AM
LTT, Great post. We must trust our intuition. Its different from intellect. intellectuals cannot make it to the kingdom alone. intuition is required too. lets say you are distracted, then the only way to be distracted from that distraction is to fall in tune with that distraction. thats comes because of knowledge (intellect). intuition can be developed by trying to live in the present, in the eternal now. Fantasy deserves a bit of an explanation. Again its related to our perception of time. I guess fantasies are smaller dreams within a larger dream. therefore a truly intuit person never recognises or associates with a fantasy. Hope it makes sense.
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ListensToTrees Knowflake Posts: 2558 From: the capricious clouds, in the land formerly known as Albion Registered: Jul 2005
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posted September 03, 2007 10:28 AM
quote: I guess fantasies are smaller dreams within a larger dream.therefore a truly intuit person never recognises or associates with a fantasy.
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