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Cancer3
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posted January 03, 2008 02:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cancer3     Edit/Delete Message
It has taken me a while to work up the nerve to put this in writing and actual post it on the board. On August 5, 2007 I lost my grandma after a long battle with a dementia related illness. The only way to describe her death would be to say bitter sweet. I miss her dearly but at least I can now rest knowing she is "free" of the restraints that her illness put on her during the last years of her life.

Around the time of her passing I started to become more spiritual. I would also like to say that I am in the process of opening my mind to new things. I was beginning to question all the things I have been told since I was born and began to see things in a whole new light. One of the things I became fascinated with was the spirit world. I wanted so badly to connect with her after she died and even now, I want her to communicate with me somehow.

Not long after she passed I had a dream where I was holding her decomposing body. I was horrified when I awoke. I chalked it up to the fact that I was constantly thinking about her and also thinking about death and in my dream state my subconscious came up with that.

Months later I had a dream where she was sitting in a chair and I vaguely remember my family walking around the room but I was sitting down by her legs and my upper body was sprawled out over her arm (her hands were as silky and wrinkled as I remembered). I was crying hysterically over her. I do remember that in this dream she still suffered from dementia and I was extremely upset that she was still "sick". I woke up the next morning feeling depressed.

About a week or so ago I had a dream about a demon trying to attack me in my sleep. In my dream I was consciously thinking that perhaps I was suffering from sleep paralysis. When the demon started to try and claw at me I then decided that it was in fact not sleep paralysis but an actual demon and so I kept repeating Jesus over and over in my head to protect me and the thing quickly went away. I do feel the need to let you all know that I have been reading about demons and sleep paralysis so I pretty much think that portion of the dream had to do with me reading about that. Also, at the time, I began to doubt my faith in Jesus. I was even more frightened by this dream than my first dream of my grandma. I slept with the cross that was in her coffin (for the wake) on my nightstand so that she and God can protect me while I sleep. I became so horried that I quickly grabbed it and fell asleep clutching it. I then proceeded to dream about her and my grandfather and I knew that like my other dream, that my grandma was still suffering from demenita which extremely bothered me. Her face was also distorted.

I guess I just want to understand why, when I do dream of her, she is still afflicited with the disease and how she is never how I truly remember her (ie - she is either decomposing or her face is distorted). These dreams are irksome to me. So, is it just my subconscious or is something else going on?

I want to thank everyone who read this and to anyone who writes in with their feedback. I truly appreciate it.

God Bless.

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Nephthys
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posted January 03, 2008 03:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nephthys     Edit/Delete Message
Dear cancer3,

First, there is a forum titled "Astral Realms" ~ dedicated to dreams, so you may get more responses there.

Second, what you have experienced is very similar to my experiences after my father's death 17 1/2 years ago.

I think your dreams and experiences are normal, because it is very raw and fresh that the experience happened. I, too, had dreams that my Dad was still sick for a long time, I had dreams of him still alive buried in his coffin, dreams of him visiting, etc. I think it takes us a while to process the death, and one way we do this is through our dreams.

Good luck and I hope you get more replies.

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bunnies
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posted January 06, 2008 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bunnies     Edit/Delete Message
Dear Cancer3
I also had a similar experience when my father died and I was living in S.Africa at the time. I never got to see him before he died and after, he appeared to hang around for months in dreams and always looking anguished or lost.
I was less spiritually aware at that time and just found the whole thing upsetting,
Evenyually I spoke to him as if he was still alive and explained to him that he needed to go wherever it was he needed to go.
That night I dreamt he walked round the corner of my house waving sadly and disappeared.
I didn't see or feel him around for 10 years and the next time I did. he was much younger (like he was when I was a child) and just plain lovely.
When my Mum died in 2000 I knew exactly what to do. I went out into the garden, spoke to her, told her that I loved her and that it was OK to leave and that she musn't be frightened.
3 days later I had the most wonderful dream in which i could feel her and smell her perfume. She leant towards me and I remember her cheeks were pink like a young girl and she said "I love you" in just the way you say it to young kids before you give them a big giant hug.
I woke up feeling a million dollars.
Talk to your gran. Tell her you love her and that she musn't be afraid. She needs your reassurance (you probably feel subconsciously because of her dementia that she is wondering around over there all lost and alone). She wont be.
Tell her it's time to move on and let go but that you will never forget her.
I promise you your bad dreams will stop and the next time you dream of her she will have beautiful pink cheeks like a young girl.

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tuxedo meow
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posted January 06, 2008 03:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tuxedo meow     Edit/Delete Message
i have had similar dreams including the corpse in the bed...my belief is that people go to a "healing stone" or like a 'recovery school'? after they pass- not all do, some folks stick around a bit, around us. also demons that were maybe surprised they no longer had a human host might use various 'ruses' to get next to someone, maybe by using the corpse image somehow-

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Cancer3
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posted January 06, 2008 08:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cancer3     Edit/Delete Message
I want to thank everyone who responded. It truly means a lot to me to get such amazing feedback.

Bunnies, I am going to take your advice and try speaking with her. I just have to find the right moment where I can speak privately. Thank you so much. One day I hope she comes to me in a dream andthis time it will be just as I remember her when she was well.

Thank you.

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fayte.m
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posted January 06, 2008 11:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
Say out loud,
"Grandmother, you are free! I miss you and because I love you I am letting you go"

You may be "holding" her here with your grief.
This happens too often. Let her go with love, and I am betting the dreams will change to her being young and sound of mind.

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fayte.m
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posted January 06, 2008 11:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
Also do not demand or expect her to hang around being your personal guardian. Did you ever consider that it is her afterlife and she has her own things to do? Folks selfishly expect deceased loved ones to be at their beck and call. Let it be her choice...not yours.

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Cancer3
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posted January 07, 2008 09:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cancer3     Edit/Delete Message
Fayte.M - I plan on taking your advice. I often worry that I am bothering her in her afterlife. I have discussed with a friend of mine how badly I would love to "talk" to my grandma (in a dream or through a psychic) but worry that I am bothering her and I would HATE to do that. My grandma is everything to me and the last thing I would want is to burden her. It pains me to think that I could be causing her any grief.

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Kat
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posted January 12, 2008 12:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kat     Edit/Delete Message
Hi
Rest assured that she has passed and peacefully moved on. Absolutely know that this is true!

It is you who is holding on and are deeply troubled over your loss.Mymother died of ALS 10 yrs ago and I have had mixed dreams of her deteriorating and others where we just hang out and her voice, and habits are all the same! They have nothing to do with her but with my grieving her loss or my own personal issues just coming to play in dream world.

Many many years ago I had demon dreams clawing at me and realize that there really is no demon involved! Nearly all dreams are projections of aspects of ourselves. At the time I had these dreams I was going through depression and was angry at myself. Esentially this demon was "me" attacking myself ( realize this sounds strange but our human psychology is really complex.) At the time I was catholic and cried out to God to help me with no luck. I was tortured by this demon on several nights. One night finally (years later) I cried out in prayer for help and a strange peace came over me. I said to myself -imagine the pain that this being must be in for it to attack me in such a horrendous way. I felt total compassion to the core of my being and then I said "I love you" poof it was gone. It was really me!
I now realize that I had a chemical imbalance going on and was in need of antidepressants. I'm not saying this is your issue, but it may be worth talking to a therapist if this is a continuing issue.

I strongly feel you need to honor your grandmother in some way especially in a creative way. Art Heals. Maybe try making a memory board using old photos or photcopies, bring flowers to the cemetary, plant a rose bush, write a letter. sing a song, celebrate her in some way telling her what she meant to you. Then think of how her life enriched your life and how you can now carry on her life by enriching someone elses life or by pursuing something that is important to you. When someone dies we think they leave a little hole in our life but if we look again they really leave a little of their light inside of us filled with memories, teachings, and love. focus on that and heal your own pain and you will find that the bad dreams start to lessen and go away and the good dreams take over

blessings

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fayte.m
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posted January 12, 2008 03:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
Cancer3 & Kat

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