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ListensToTrees
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posted May 22, 2008 09:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6334005121196324215&q =The+Turning+Of+The+Tide&ei=i3M1SLSdD5WiiALl65jjCQ

(Sigh).


Exposing the real story behind global events, which shape the future of human existence and the world we leave our children. The veil lifts on an astonishing web of interconnected manipulation to reveal that the same few people, secret societies and organizations control the daily direction of our lives, & how the same people on apparently different sides of politics are actually connected to the same elite organizations. These organizations have the same proven agenda of a world government, a world central bank, a world army, a world currency, and some say a micro-chipped population. "OPPO-SAMES" These apparent opposites in politics are there to persuade us that we are not living in a prison, that we have a choice. Yet these persons are not opposites at all but are part of a one-party state. The last two US Presidents were apparently opposites and on different sides - Bill Clinton and George Bush - yet they were both heavily involved within the same elite organizations. David Icke explains: "What happens in practice is that if you look at all the dogmas in all cultures, all societies have what I call a 'hassle-free zone.' It is that area within any culture, within each dogma (religious, economic, political etc) wherein if you conform to it, you are in the comfort zone. No one's going to laugh at you, condemn you for being different, or for expressing your uniqueness, because you are locked into the herd mentality, and you are conforming to what you are told you should be and do. When you step out of this mind-set and express your unique aspect of all that exists and refuse to be frightened, or controlled, you immediately face ridicule or condemnation as I have in England." "THE SHEEPLE" "Whatever happened to living? The vast majority of people, rich and poor, on this planet are enslaved. Enslaved by the system's robotic programming, its economic imprisonment, and by their own refusal to think, question and find the liberation that comes with an open mind. We don't live in a free society, we live as robots in a society in which you are free to do what the society wants you to do - produce and consume - that's the reality." A "MUST READ" book for understanding how the fraud really affects you and what you can do about it:
http://mhkeehn.tripod.com/MBRestructured.pdf

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Lei_Kuei
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posted May 22, 2008 12:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lei_Kuei     Edit/Delete Message
Well it is good but at this point Ive seen all of this info before from various other sources, but he does cover a great deal of topics and explains things clearly and easily

Most definitely worth watching all the way through

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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted May 22, 2008 06:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message
"What happens in practice is that if you look at all the dogmas in all cultures, all societies have what I call a 'hassle-free zone.' It is that area within any culture, within each dogma (religious, economic, political etc) wherein if you conform to it, you are in the comfort zone. No one's going to laugh at you, condemn you for being different, or for expressing your uniqueness, because you are locked into the herd mentality, and you are conforming to what you are told you should be and do. When you step out of this mind-set and express your unique aspect of all that exists and refuse to be frightened, or controlled, you immediately face ridicule or condemnation as I have in England."


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Charlotte
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posted May 23, 2008 09:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Charlotte     Edit/Delete Message

This video radiated truth!

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ListensToTrees
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posted May 25, 2008 10:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
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ListensToTrees
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posted May 25, 2008 10:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
I was in Brixton yesterday, listening to David Icke speak at the Academy there.

I met up with some people afterwards who had got to speak to David as a few of them were moderators on the forum. I wanted to speak to him too, but I did get to meet him as he left the Academy, as he came up to the group of people I was stood with to say goodbye to them. I feel so daft because I wanted to give him a warm handshake, which I did, but realized afterwards that I may have hurt his hand by squeezing it so hard as he suffers from arthritis.
Oh well, he didn't complain.

I enjoyed the talk very much, he was very funny and everything he said was so inspiring and made so much sense. He has so much passion and really is a genuine person- I can tell. The tickets for this show sold out 3 months in advance. It was a great feeling to be surrounded by so many people of all ages who really understood the message that David Icke is trying to communicate.

I realized, by being there, how many other people are out there. So many. So many amazing people.

Every person in this world is amazing. Each person is "anything but ordinary" as Kevin Spacey put it, in American Beauty.

All it takes is for each person to wake up and real-eyes his and her potential, to believe in their self....to never let ANYTHING stop them truly listening to their own heart and to follow their dreams.


For so long, I too have been thinking inside a "box" of a sort.
I have isolated myself, believing that I am different, that so few people could ever really understand me.
I have worried too much what others think about me.

AND IT DOESN'T MATTER!

These are nothing but negative thoughts which I have allowed to pull me down to a lower vibrational level.

The world is a huge, magnificent, extraordinary place.

It is time for me to be free, to be strong, to do what I must do, walk my walk- be brave and keep going no matter what....because I'll get there eventually.


The companionship of others which I have longed for, ached for, bled for (metaphorically), for so long........
does not depend on me finding one "special person" or a "twin soul" as such for me to rely on and pin all my hopes on. This, I confess, is what I have been going around believing.

What I am looking for


is a frequency



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ListensToTrees
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posted May 25, 2008 01:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
What David's life is really like:

UPDATED MAY 12th 2007

For those who know the background, please scroll down to 'update'.

For the last year David Icke and his family have been trying to regain control of his books and works and keep them in circulation in the face of actions by an American called Royal Adams in Missouri.

Without David's knowledge, Adams incorporated David's books in his own name with David completely excluded and stopped his income that is vital for the work to continue, as well as his family's livelihood. Imagine that. You have worked for 17 years against all the odds, and in the face of enormous abuse and ridicule, to create unique cutting edge material to alert people to their plight and some guy just puts it all under his own name and tells you he is in control of everything. Gutted is not the word.

David researched and wrote the books; arranged for them to be designed, proof-read and indexed; arranged for the art work and the production of the disk for printing; and paid for all these things to be done. But when he took steps to have his life's work returned to his control this man stopped him getting any income from the sales of his OWN books and indicated that he would only consider restoring the income - David and his family's livelihood - if David signed over rights to all his future works to him.

It gave David only two choices: To accept this extraordinary and callous injustice or take legal action to recover control of what was his and restore the income on which his entire work depends to survive and continue. In simple terms, the system means that even if someone does something utterly outrageous like this it costs you enormous amounts of money in legal fees to put it right and recover what was yours in the first place.

David won an interim order stopping Adams selling his books and keeping the money, which is now held in an independent account pending the legal outcome. The judge ordered accounts and print disks to be handed over to David, but Adams has produced no such accounts, only random checks that include confirmation that he used income from David's books for household and garden improvements, paying his personal bills and even buying a Harley-Davidson motorbike. All this was revealed in a public court at a second hearing of the case in December.

Update: After a long delay of several months, David has won the verdict on the second hearing and we are now able to distribute books in the United States for the first time in a year. Adams and his 'evidence' were demolished in the judge's verdict and he was ordered to go back before the judge to explain why he should not be dealt with for contempt of court. He is due to appear before the judge for a second time soon with regard to this.

In any just and sane situation in which even an ounce of decency was involved, the case would now be over and we could all get on with what really matters - alerting people to the Orwellian nightmare. But as soon as the judge announced his verdict, Adams issued a counter-claim against David based on all the 'evidence' that had just been dismissed by the judge. He also attempted to have David charged with contempt of court based on no evidence whatsoever and eventually had to apologise for doing so.

However, what all this means is that the crippling legal bills that David has had to meet for a year now continue. The victory in the second hearing was crucial and David is now in an extremely strong position legally, but every month another bill arrives and we would appreciate your support to help us with this.

One thing is for sure: without the generosity of those who support what David is doing, his work would by over by now and he and his family would have lost everything. Thank-you so much.

Why does all this matter and why does David deserve our help?

Here is one view:

I can't believe what is happening to this man

People have no idea what David's life is like and what it takes to do what he does. Most perceptions are way off the mark. Being a well known author and campaigner for freedom and justice does not make for happiness, wellbeing and living in riches. Far, far from it.

That is not the point though. What David is doing is unlike anything else on this planet that I know of. He is so focused and dedicated to this work that his own personal happiness and desires always get pushed aside. His world is not the 'glamorous' one most people think it is.

There are other things he would like to do with his life, but he does what he does because he knows it is 'right'. We live in a world on the brink of a totalitarian global state. David Icke has dedicated his life to alerting people to this for the last nearly 20 years and now he needs YOUR help if he is to continue.

David's world is one of living in pain every day from arthritis ... so much so that when you read the millions of words in his books, his newsletter or on his Website, remember this: all of it was written by typing with two fingers because his hands hurt so much they are the only two fingers he can use. Every time he moves the mouse it is painful and often just turning his head slightly is agony. He doesn't ask or want sympathy for what he daily endures, but at this time he does need your support.

Those who have watched him standing for 7 to 8 hours on stage giving his all for those who have come to hear, remember this: he is in pain and wracked with exhaustion after year after year of pressing on against all the odds. The amount of work and stamina it takes to do all that he does is incomprehensible, yet he makes it look easy and hides it well. Behind the scenes, however, he is constantly on the brink of exhaustion because of his workload and the constant pain that depletes his energy.

Welcome to the real world of David Icke.

It is a world that people like the man involved in this legal case never see or even begin to understand. People like him have no idea who David Icke is, what he does, or what it takes to do what he does. It is stomach turning.

David has been ridiculed beyond measure, his character has been assassinated, he is physically, emotionally, energetically and psychically attacked ... but still he goes on.

He lives a very modest life in a small flat with one bedroom while he sees idiots and manipulators claim that he does his work only for the money and, in one case, that he lives in a mansion!!

His daily workload is fantastic and most of it is done for no financial return. It involves him getting up early every day and sitting in front of a computer for up to ten hours a day to get through all that needs doing - and this is even without dealing with the legal battles, threats and distractions from those trying to pull him down.

Why does he do it? Because he knows it to be 'right'.

I don't know how he does it. His threshold for pain is certainly way beyond mine.

David is someone running straight at 'em. A maverick who is prepared to go where others fear to tread. Many people say they support him, but how many are going to take the chance to do that when he desperately needs help at this time?

At the moment David is sailing in troubled waters and needs your financial support. He is but one man and the situation before us is dedicated to destroying him. We can't let this happen.

There is an attempt to silence him by a vengeful man and I for one won't have it. This is an effort to break him and his family financially. We can't all do what he does on our behalf, but we can make sure he can continue to do it.

We need to come together and support him. I am asking you to do what you can and help contribute to the Legal Defence Fund necessary to keep this boat afloat.

We are in this together and what is happening to David is actually happening to all of us because his efforts give all of us a voice that can be heard. He is the messenger and we cannot allow the message to be silenced. This will not happen if we all stand up and say 'no'.

Pamela

http://www.davidicke.com/content/view/1772/1772/

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posted May 25, 2008 02:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message
The turning of the tide leads to the ultimate revelation...the paddling of the swollen a$$!

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Charlotte
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posted May 25, 2008 04:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Charlotte     Edit/Delete Message
Listens,
That is so cool that you got to hear him speak in person. I can only imagine the feeling of being in the room with so many like minded people.

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ListensToTrees
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posted May 25, 2008 06:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
There was a wide range of people there. They weren't all like minded....but the main thing was they were open minded.

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berrypicker
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posted May 29, 2008 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for berrypicker     Edit/Delete Message
i know a few people - not a lot but a few who are open minded about these secret societies controlling everything

i dont really talk about it to people cos they ridicule and label me as a conspiracy theorist - i feel the first reaction to truth is ridicule and if im gonna be labelled a conspiracy theorist others have to be willing to be labelled coincidence theorists

i think for me - david icke is good but jordan maxwell is the one who made my jaw drop with the law of the land and law of the water lecture and all his investigations into how the abrahamic religions have been used to abuse the world and how judaism was copied from egyptian pagan ideas - fascinating when you think about how obvious it all is when you investigate - i feel sorry for the people who truly believe in fake religions and who have literally had their spirits stolen by controllers manipulating thru fear!

its on google video called "The Occult World of Commerce" if anyone hasnt seen it

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berrypicker
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posted May 30, 2008 04:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for berrypicker     Edit/Delete Message
thanks LTT for the book by Mary Elizabeth Croft - How I Clobbered Every Beaurocratic Cash-Confiscatory Agency Known To Man

I was up until 2 in the morning reading it

Bless you and thank you truly - your posts are wow - i forwarded that book to more than 10 people!

thank you

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ListensToTrees
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posted May 30, 2008 05:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
You're welcome, berrypicker, but I think you may be confusing me with someone else(?). I never sent a book.......

Edited to add:
Oh, I see....the link posted by the owner of the google video. Lol.

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berrypicker
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posted May 30, 2008 10:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for berrypicker     Edit/Delete Message
it is a very readable book - i loved it!

i'm beginning to think my brain is too right and not left enough - this author says she did a test and hers was equal each sides!

im going to find one of these tests - if anyone knows where they are please let me know - thank you

my fave author - Carlos Castaneda - whenever I lose my centre I glance at his quotes and I'm back!

The trick is in what one emphasizes. We either make ourselves miserable, or we make ourselves strong. The amount of work is the same.
The Wheel of Time

An average man is too concerned with liking people or with being liked himself. A warrior likes, that’s all. He likes whatever or whomever he wants for the hell of it.

A warrior takes responsibility for his acts, for the most trivial of his acts. An average man acts out his thoughts, and never takes responsibility for what he does.

The average man is either victorious or defeated and, depending on that, he becomes a persecutor or a victim. These two conditions are prevalent as long as one does not “see.” “Seeing” dispels the illusion of victory, or defeat, or suffering.

Denying oneself is an indulgence. The indulgence of denying is by far the worst; it forces us to believe that we are doing great things, when in effect we are only fixed within ourselves.

There is no emptiness in the life of a warrior. Everything is filled to the brim. Everything is filled to the brim, and everything is equal.

A Separate Reality – Carlos Castaneda

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berrypicker
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posted May 30, 2008 10:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for berrypicker     Edit/Delete Message
i missed this bit - this to me is the key

We talk to ourselves incessantly about our world. In fact we maintain our world with our internal talk. And whenever we finish talking to ourselves about ourselves and our world, the world is always as it should be. We renew it, we rekindle it with life, we uphold it with our internal talk. Not only that, but we also choose our paths as we talk to ourselves. Thus we repeat the same choices over and over until the day we die, because we keep on repeating the same internal talk over and over until the day we die. A warrior is aware of this and strives to stop his internal talk.

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