posted April 09, 2013 04:08 PM            

Anyone heard of the Michael Teachings? It describes that each soul 'signed up' for a certain role in life. Also soul age of people are taken in account. How do you feel about soul ages and 'soul group'-roles?

For a test which role you are (could be) http://www.michaelteachings.com/personality_role.html

Short description:

Warriors are persuasive, single-minded doers, often with a hearty sense of humor, and sometimes, the subtlety (and strength) of a Mack truck. They seek challenge.

Kings are warriors' large-picture counterparts. They are charismatic leaders, organizing others to action, sometimes in a tyrannical manner. They seek mastery.

Scholars, rather than being oriented toward doing, are a resource for others. They study and assimilate, intellectually or otherwise. Sometimes, they are overly theoretical and distanced from life. They seek knowledge.

Artisans create what is new, whether in art, hairstyles, or carburetors. They are often warm and playful, sometimes self-deceptive and artificial. They seek originality.

Sages express and communicate. They are witty, friendly, entertaining, and sometimes loud and verbose. They seek insight.

Priests inspire others through their compassion and vision. They sometimes get carried away and take too much on faith or try to force their beliefs on others. They seek what is highest.

posted April 10, 2013 12:38 AM            

Somehow, Server didn't make the cut (only 3).

posted April 10, 2013 05:54 PM            

I'm generally cynical of classifications for the soul, however. How does one classify a soul? Astrology seems the closest one can do for that.

posted April 11, 2013 02:47 AM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
For example, one new ager called me an Indigo, and the description fit, but when I demonstrated the Indigo trait of challenging rigid authority (in this case hers) I was instantly demoted to "new soul."

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Lol, yes, I get your point.
I'm not sure also. They channel. And Michael is in this case a soul group providing insight.
Here's another link. If you scroll below you can click on the test. http://www.michaelteachings.com/roles_index.html

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Originally posted by BlackSeraph:
Intriguing... I seemed to have high scores for Artisan, Warrior and Scholar (10 each), but slightly edged out by Sage (at 11). King and Priest had potential (8).

Somehow, Server didn't make the cut (only 3).

I'd say I'm a composite role, but not so prone to be selfless. (I've been burnt a lot and seen a lot of hypocrisy among other "should-have-been servers" in my time that probably jaded my view).

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posted April 14, 2013 09:42 PM            

A "channeled" reading I got a few years ago has me as a Sage. Then there are other nuances, if you get into it.

My "Casting," according to the reading, was Priest.
My "Cadence" was King.
My "Greater Cadence" was Artisan.

Don't ask me what those terms mean, as I didn't feel that drawn to get that far into those intricacies of the teachings. Something about my position in my soul group casts a role, a flavor if you will; and then each group has a role.

So, yes--we are all composites of several roles, in a way.

posted April 19, 2013 07:23 AM            

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Originally posted by Jovian:
The Michael "roles" and other categorizations are complicated. When I first became interested in the concept, I assumed I was a "king." I certainly was dwelling in that type of energy at the time, and healing apparent past lifetimes as a leader.

A "channeled" reading I got a few years ago has me as a Sage. Then there are other nuances, if you get into it.

My "Casting," according to the reading, was Priest.
My "Cadence" was King.
My "Greater Cadence" was Artisan.

Don't ask me what those terms mean, as I didn't feel that drawn to get that far into those intricacies of the teachings. Something about my position in my soul group casts a role, a flavor if you will; and then each group has a role.

So, yes--we are all composites of several roles, in a way.

I do continue to find the soul age paradigm helpful in understanding not only myself, but others.

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posted April 21, 2013 01:49 PM            

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Originally posted by Stawr:

Warrior 3 (this is one I wish I was, but I'm not haha)

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Lol. Well... For what it's worth: scholars and sages sound really cool. They can hold a conversation AND make you laugh. Excellent!

posted April 22, 2013 06:45 PM            

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For example, one new ager called me an Indigo, and the description fit, but when I demonstrated the Indigo trait of challenging rigid authority (in this case hers) I was instantly demoted to "new soul."

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Lmao!

posted April 23, 2013 08:47 PM            

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Originally posted by Twirl:
Nice! Would you recommend a channeling? I read about the overleaves too. It does look rather complicated, but I can imagine it can give a better understanding.

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FYI: Just take the "s" off of "htmls" in the initial link, and it will work, to take the role test.

Hi Twirl. I'm glad you brought up the topic. I do find some use in the Michael info, as I said.

...If you feel you have grasped enough of the concepts in Michael terms, then I'd think you'd find a reading valuable, yes.

What I mean is that the report, if it is like mine, will give info in the Michael parlance, so you would have to know what is meant when the report states...

Soul Age : Old 2. Manifesting: Old 1-2
Role : Sage
Casting : Priest
Cadence : King
Greater Cadence : Artisan
Side : Love
Essence Twin : Scholar
Task Companion(s) : Artisan
Goal : Flow
Mode : Power
Attitude : Spiritualist
Centering : Moving part of Intellectual Center
Chief Feature(s) : Stubbornness, Greed, Impatience, Martyrdom
Body Types : Mercurial/Venusian/Lunar 45/40/15
Frequency : 41
Male / Female Ratio : 57/43
Grand Cycles : 12
# Lifetimes : 177
Cadre/Entity : 5/7

As you can see, there is much info to utilize here, for potential insight about oneself, if you care to delve into the various concepts. I certainly didn't get deeply into much of it, myself.

Then there is enticing info such as this, that your reading might include....

Essence Twin Info: Discarnate. Many past lifetimes shared; more than average. Much resonance/memories based on these intensive experiences. At this time there is little astral contact because of a project this fragment is involved in, but up until about 10 years ago there was much more.

Task Companion Info: Incarnate female. Living in eastern Europe. Plans to meet are in planning stages at this point. You would know this fragment by her high piercing laugh and the amount of information that comes through her eyes. She presently is involved in spiritual pursuits, so a workshop or conference could be planned that would give you an opportunity to interact. Together you have banded with other duos to work on a project involving interspecies communications.

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...According to Michael teachings, many people's "essence twin," if you subscribe to the idea, is discarnate (i.e., not here when you are!). Also, some people have no essence twin.

I can't say that I've been consciously aware of any non-physical connection with anything resembling an "essence twin" in earlier years. However, it was indeed about ten years before this reading that I started contemplating the idea of "soul mates," and wondered about my own, if there were such a thing. At that time, I started reflecting and yearning for someone I'd known years earlier, and I realized the connection we'd had in previous lifetimes.

At this time, I don't believe she was a one-and-only "essence twin," but maybe my strong feeling was me craving that other discarnate "twin?" Not sure, but intimate relationships have been a source of struggle and deep learning about myself. I have ever craved a deep, all-encompassing bond with someone, that has seemed elusive and not meant to be. I have had to process a lot of karma, this time around, wherein I've had to heal a lot within myself.

...Haven't met that supposed "task companion" yet, and run off to communicate with other species (I got this channeling almost three years ago). ...I'll post it here, when/if I ever do!

Yes, the reading is enticingly specific to each individual. ...Measurements such as my "soul age" and my Male/Female ratio pretty much jibed with what I'd already assessed about myself, so I do think there is at least some validity to the reading and usefulness in the concepts.

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...Of course, there are several different people who perform such channelings, and you are bound to get differences in the information. For example, here are channelings of the Overleaves and some soul ages of various celebrities, and there are clearly different assessments for many of them, when more than two channels are indicated.

http://www.michaelteachings.com/celebrities.html

posted April 28, 2013 02:19 AM            

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Originally posted by Jovian:
[b]FYI: Just take the "s" off of "htmls" in the initial link, and it will work, to take the role test.

Hi Twirl. I'm glad you brought up the topic. I do find some use in the Michael info, as I said.

...If you feel you have grasped enough of the concepts in Michael terms, then I'd think you'd find a reading valuable, yes.

What I mean is that the report, if it is like mine, will give info in the Michael parlance, so you would have to know what is meant when the report states...

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I am expecting that the 'twin' will be a scholar (and most likely not here), because I really love taking up information.
I contemplated on a reading to get more understanding between the difference in soul ages, because I'm often 'off tune' with the majority which can be annoying. Especially in work. (although I already found a way in dealing with it, i.o.w.: it's okay, we all just think differently and I'll share when I think people are open to it and otherwise just enjoy the other things we have in common, lol)

posted April 30, 2013 02:59 AM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
I edited the link, so it will work now.

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posted February 04, 2014 08:02 AM            

I actually had a Michael chart done once, and looked through it just yesterday coincidentally.

It had me categorized as level 7 mature Scholar with influence of the Priest and minor influence of King.

posted February 04, 2014 11:02 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Oh I just saw this now.

I actually had a Michael chart done once, and looked through it just yesterday coincidentally.

It had me categorized as level 7 mature Scholar with influence of the Priest and minor influence of King.

to be honest I donīt quite know how I feel about the Michael charts, as I am generally not very convinced of channelled messages.

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Oh excellent! I think this one of few messages where I filled in to receive an email when someone answers. Otherwise I would have found out weeks later.

Thanks Ceri! So interesting! Aha, scholar & level 7 I can feel that emperor in you!!! Did it give you some aha-moments when you had it done?
I recently found a book about it quite accidentally in my language! (which I bought).
I still want to have it done. What really helped me was reading about the different perceptions of soul ages: just reading that gave me more of an 'aha, I see'-feeling & much more calmth about the non-Hierophant lifestyle... Kind of like The Hierophant versus .... (The High Priestess - Hermit? something like that).

Did you get it done with someone you recommend? I have no clue about role and/or age (but it must be either mature or old). I thought I might have a very strong scholar overcast (and/or this twin isn't here), but am a Sage or Priest or Artisan (altough I don't have the patience much for the last). But it's all guess work, lol.

Thanks for sharing! Hope all is well! Guess you must be quite busy lately.
Byeee

posted February 04, 2014 02:38 PM            

yes, some things - suprisingly- resonated with me, even though when I asked for the reading there had been no contact established before. So the reader could not really have based it on anything she learned about me before.

BTW when they are talking about twin essence, they do not mean the same thing as a Twin Flame or Twin Soul.
IT seems to be a different concept.

I had it done with Lin from Linsdomain (I love the animal totem pictures and posts of her btw).

She didn`t use the terms overcase or cast though, so I don`t know about this.

However reading up on mature age, it makes sense to me.

Well she also wrote that this would be my last life as a mature age, being on the brink of an old soul or something like that (though honestly the definition of old souls in the Michael teachings sounds quite different to how people here have described it).

Well for a mature soul relationships are central, but the differnces between the several levels are quite immense I thought when reading it through.

In relation to me she wrote:

"In the seventh and final level, you relax from the karmic activity of the prior level and begin to teach what you have learned to the younger souls."

I like that theme of relaxation.

As a matter of fact I have felt all my life, as if I am "wrapping up things", cutting lose threads or untangling them, reintegrating them, and htat certainly would make sense.

Maybe that is how I manage to find all these souls whom I have interesting synastry with. lol
Part of the wrapping up scenario, giving the finishing touches so to speak.

I apparently vibrate to a frequency of 52 and this is my 12th cycle I am in.

My Male/ female ratio is 47:53

(brings my partile and very balanced Isis-Osiris-conjunction to mind).

But yes, though I DO identify with being female, even more strongly nowadays, I am certainly not typical.

My role is as said a scholar, and I did score most points in scholar in this test. It makes much sense.

On the essence twin she wrote:

"An Essence Twin is a part of you, a reflection of yourself. Your Essence Twin is sometimes disincarnate and when that happens, his Role is even stronger within you. If your Twin is incarnate, sometimes you meet and become a part of each other's lives -- sometime you never meet. If you do meet, there is an instant sense of belonging and knowing. Your Twin reflects back your strengths and weaknesses. It is similar to looking into a mirror of your own soul. You don't always get along with your Twin and he/she is not always a partner. A Twin can be a parent, a sibling, or a very good friend. "

She wrote that my essence twin is a Priest, but that doesn`t feel right.
Interestingly I scored higher on Sage than Priest in the questionaire, too.

But anyway she also wrote
"Your Essence Twin is incarnate and a male. You have already met your Twin in this lifetime. "

So have I?

Anyway, I said Priest doesn`t sound right, it doesn`t sound right on the basis of what I read on this website, but her explanation of the Priest-role, resonates somewhat with me.

"The essence of the priest role is compassion and the ability to serve others by inspiring them. They are driven to achieve a higher good and are often natural healers. They tend to be visionaries and often involved in a number of projects at the same time. Sleep is a waste of time for them. They go through their cycle of lifetimes faster than the other roles because of their intensity. "

As for my task companion, he apparently has the role of the King, and is incarnate, but we are not destined to meet for he is busy with his own projects.

My Goal:
Flow

"This is a lifetime of rest. To allow life to flow easily and effortlessly in order to rest. This is usually chosen by souls who have had a number of intensely karmic lives before this one. "

It also warns though to not resist the flow and thinking of oneself as unworthy or underachieving but just let the flow happen. Sometimes things ARE as good as they seem. lol

This really strikes a chord with me, as even as a kid I remember thinking: How can I be feeling well, cared for, healthy and happy, if others suffer?

Chief obstacle: Impatience
No, that doesn`t resonate with me at all.

My Mode: Perseverance

Yeah, If I am good at something,t han that, sometimes maybe to my detriment even.

Attitude is: Pragmatist
Hmm, not quite. Maybe a little bit.

my Center: instinctive
This would mean reacting impulsively, sometimes irrationally, and being close to the primal source and urges.
But I don`t quite see it in me.
Actually I would need a good dose of this I think.

posted February 05, 2014 05:58 PM            

I want to get one even more now, lol.
I never heard of her site.
Oh, I thought twin essence was similar? I have to start reading that book I bought
Flow goal sounds nice
What's a 12th cycle?

posted March 25, 2014 10:23 PM            

Old Soul - 3 (Introspection)
Vibration - 54
Male/Female - 44/56
Cycles - 11
Role - Priest
Obstacle - Greed
Goal - Submission
Essence Twin - Artisan
Task Companion - Warrior

posted March 26, 2014 06:20 AM            

Thanks for your reply
Would you say it helped you at the time you did the channeling and/or did you notice benefits of it later?

As 4 me: as I wrote, in the beginning it actually felt more like a setback, because a) you will start comparing (no matter what is said about that's not what's it about & you shouldn't, etc.), but mostly I got discouraged because I apparently wasn't (am not) fully manifesting the soul age.
In a way, even if it can create understanding, it also felt a bit restricting for me...

What was helpful (to me) is the dividing in soul ages and what their main perspective of life is.

posted March 26, 2014 12:45 PM            

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Originally posted by Sibyl:
I loved this one! Ticked all the boxes on King, HA... Quite a few boxes on Warrior too...

I guess it reflects the fact that my ambition for power is through the roof.

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posted March 26, 2014 05:40 PM            

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Originally posted by Twirl:
Apparently I have a King task companion. Hello buddy! lol. Then again the king is supposed to be busy with his own karma this lifetime

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Hello friend!
It's really nice to meet another King, doesn't happen often! Allot of people put on a front and probably think they are the king of everything, but I'm not buying it.