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hannaramaa
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posted April 06, 2014 09:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When they talk about keeping your vibration high to attract positive things into your life, what if your energy is inconsistent? Like some days you're tired, or some days are really stressful… but that inherently you don't dwell on it. Is that still okay for TLoA?

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posted April 06, 2014 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sibyl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The energy is still there, I think.

I feel like I can call up my energy whenever I want, but I don't always want to (or think it's a good idea) because it could leave me depleted for a while. Not in the sense that it's gone, but in the sense that using allot of energy for me makes me tired, stressed, etc. It's not the other way around. Use of energy comes first, not the mood. It's not the mood that fuels the energy. The energy lies at your core and fuels everything else in your life. So if you want to attract good things you need to let your energy fly in positive endeavors. This can result in stress and tiredness, so it's not necessarily a bad thing. I mean, if you're stressed it just means that you're using allot of energy and if you're tired you sleep it off. Right?

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hannaramaa
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posted April 06, 2014 03:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's how I see it too, but they don't clarify in the book I'm reading (You Are A Badass). A lot of self-help books make it sound like you have to be happy to do whatever 24/7, in order to see your life change and that part leaves me confused because there's obviously no room for error then.

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posted April 06, 2014 04:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ It's BS imo. The authors of those books know that we can't be happy all the time, so if LOA doesn't work, they can simply place the blame on you for not being happy all the time, just an excuse.

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posted April 07, 2014 10:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SDragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When you're tired or happy or angry, those are temporary energy states and don't necessarily define the levels where true attraction happens.

I would define true attraction more as subconscious belief patterns. You can think positively and wish for great things to attract but if you subconsciously believe you don't deserve those things - it's the subconscious patterns that need to be changed into a higher state of energetic attraction and belief.

We humans live and are encased in societal, cultural, racial, class, monetary, political systems where the underlying belief is one of scarcity, no wonder people find it hard to believe in the abundance of everything - physical, emotional, mental, spiritual abundance derived from nothing beyond the fact that we're all part of the Universe and God.

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hannaramaa
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posted April 07, 2014 11:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SDragon:
When you're tired or happy or angry, those are temporary energy states and don't necessarily define the levels where true attraction happens.

I would define true attraction more as subconscious belief patterns. You can think positively and wish for great things to attract but if you subconsciously believe you don't deserve those things - it's the subconscious patterns that need to be changed into a higher state of energetic attraction and belief.

We humans live and are encased in societal, cultural, racial, class, monetary, political systems where the underlying belief is one of scarcity, no wonder people find it hard to believe in the abundance of everything - physical, emotional, mental, spiritual abundance derived from nothing beyond the fact that we're all part of the Universe and God.


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Randall
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posted April 08, 2014 05:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No one can be chirpy all of the time. Just cancel the negative thoughts during those times.

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posted April 10, 2014 04:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lei_Kuei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting article on the Law of Attraction

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http://www.redicecreations.com/article.php?id=29659
Why the Law of Attraction fails

The law is stated in two ways.

First, positive thoughts attract positive results in life, and negative thoughts attract negative results. This is mainly a descriptive overview. It doesn’t apply to people who consciously do something to change their own thoughts. It’s a “philosophic” basis for understanding why people get what they get in life.

Therefore, one assumes, if a hundred thousand people are dying of thirst during a drought, they brought that on by thinking a whole lot of negative thoughts.

People who advocate the law of attraction tend to dislike such examples. They sometimes hedge their bets by asserting that external events (e.g., a drought) are quite real and they never claimed otherwise.

This produces a blurry line between events that “just happen” independent of what people are thinking, and events which are the result of negative or positive thoughts.

The second version of the law emphasizes that people, by changing the nature of their own thoughts, automatically affect what they get in life.

Certainly, this isn’t achieved by a person entering his own mind like a surgeon with a scalpel, pruning away the negative. The interior landscape is far too large, the flows of thought are too mercurial, and quite often, what seems like a successful surgery later turns out to be a dud: the old excised thoughts return.

A frontal attack on thought is like trying to wipe out air.

But there are meditations and repetitive affirmations. Many advocates of the law recommend them. Focus on thinking about what you truly want. Clarify such thoughts. Repeat them to yourself over and over. Affirm them. Or concentrate on an object of desire.

Doing this in a dispassionate way hardly calls up very much energy. It’s about as effective as trying to move forward in an active ocean while sitting in a paper boat and paddling with a soup spoon.

What, though, happens if you really believe you can get what you want by thinking positively about it over and over, or by focusing on it?

In that case, the driving engine is that belief.

And this is a whole other territory. Suppose you ardently believe that by visualizing a purple rose sitting on a boiled egg, you will become rich? Suppose you believe that a pink bulldog dropping down from the sky holding the string of a large balloon will give you a new house?

The purple rose and the boiled egg and pink bulldog aren’t the vital components. What’s vital is the underlying belief.

If someone tells you that you can change your thoughts from negative to positive, and that by doing this you’ll get what you want…and you believe this is true…then your practice of visualization or affirmations is less than it seems. It’s running on, and powered by, Belief.

Is belief enough? Will it carry the freight?

There is no blanket conclusion possible. It all depends on who is believing and how they are believing and with what power they are believing, and with what conviction, and with what passion, and with what “belief in their belief.”

I have seen, and you have, too, I’m sure, people who achieve remarkable things based on what they believe.

And it doesn’t matter whether they are engaged in “changing their thoughts from negative to positive.” The law of attraction itself is irrelevant.

Furthermore, people who hold very strong beliefs act on them. They don’t sit in a room and power up that belief-engine and wait for something to happen. They aren’t involved in some “snap-of-the-fingers” manifestation. They take massive and sustained action.

They live out their beliefs.

They create what wasn’t there before.

And in that act of creating, during a life lived, at some point along the line, they experience remarkable collisions of events—the fancy label is synchronicity. People and situations come to their aid.

You could call that magnetic attraction. You could call it magic. You could call it oobladee. It doesn’t matter.

In large numbers of people, the ordinary notion of the law of attraction helps to make them passive. They wait. They think. They re-think. They spin wheels.

Some of them begin to believe they have to banish the negative, and this process leads them into confusion and discomfort of a high order, because it doesn’t work. Thoughts, untold numbers of floating random thoughts, are the wrong target. They’re a dime a dozen, and there are billions of dozens. Who cares?

The idea of purifying one’s own thoughts is a dead-end alley in the long run.

It becomes a fetish.

And those who preach the “philosophy” are, sometimes, merely interested in controlling the flock. The more androidal members of the flock will, now and then, say, “Did you hear about Bob? He’s in the hospital. Too many negative thoughts.”

On a political level, this degenerates into “we suspect Jones just had an incorrect thought.”

Living a creative life through and by imagination is a whole other process. That’s the major leagues. That’s the expression of life-force in a voice that tears away the curtain of consensus reality.

Inventing what otherwise would never be there.

That kind of life quite naturally, without effort, shelves trillions of sputtering thoughts because they don’t matter. Negative? Positive? Makes no difference. It’s a puerile distinction.

In living a creative life, one’s past, one’s experiences, feelings, thoughts, memories—they’re all fuel for the fire. In that fire, a soul forges what he will invent, what new reality he will make.

He doesn’t diddle around with “positive and negative.”


By Jon Rappoport


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Randall
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posted April 11, 2014 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting.

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