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listenstotrees
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posted May 30, 2009 04:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for listenstotrees        Reply w/Quote
I've been zoning out and pondering things lately...which is kind of normal for me. But anyway, I've been pondering a great amount the nature of this reality, with its duality, and the source, or place where everything is at one and in an eternal state of bliss.

I don't know if anyone can ever truly figure the entire puzzle out, but I often wonder- if this creation is only an illusion- then why would infinite consciousness ever chose to allow parts of itself to be here in the first place? Considering that the amount of suffering that exists here is no unserious matter.

So, the way I've come to think of it is that there are two possibilities.....either there's something I haven't understood yet or the purpose of life- the experience of individuation- is to eventually bring heaven to earth (and those are just names, but the simplest I can think of to explain what I mean).

Some more thoughts I just put in another thread:

We co-create our realities but the trouble we experience exists because some of us desire to control/ harm others.

There is no consensus view of reality/ morality.

That's what makes this world a prison.

Until every being on the planet feels its interconnectedness to all other life....as well as a deep enhanced empathy.....can we ever be truly free?


Therefore, I decided today...when trying to visualize what a more harmonious/ higher dimensional reality would look like (without abandoning individuality altogether).....

It would be a place where "every being on the planet feels its interconnectedness to all other life....as well as a deep enhanced empathy".


What do you think and is it possible?

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listenstotrees
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posted May 30, 2009 04:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for listenstotrees        Reply w/Quote
What if there was a way to program our DNA to create and innate sense of empathy within ourselves?

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Randall
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posted May 31, 2009 12:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall        Reply w/Quote
Interesting.

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posted May 31, 2009 01:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for listenstotrees        Reply w/Quote

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listenstotrees
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posted May 31, 2009 01:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for listenstotrees        Reply w/Quote

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listenstotrees
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posted May 31, 2009 01:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for listenstotrees        Reply w/Quote

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Nice.

I like the ideas i'm finding lately, that have a lot to do with elimination, and how the proper function of the psyche, as well as the body, is not to accumulate and produce, but, to purify and eliminate. According to this theory, empathy would be intrinsic to our natural state, or, rather, to a state of optimum health, which would be characterized by a lack of impurities. Impurities accumulate because of blockages. When the mind and body is free of blockages, it is regulated so as to pass things through it with ease. It takes only what it needs, and evacuates the rest. Holding onto ideologies and points of view would be unthinkable. Every situation would be confronted fresh, as something entirely unique, and, yet, through instinct and intuition, rather than ideological adherence, we would naturally choose the proper course.


"The mind is not a vessel to be filled but a fire to be kindled." ~ Plutarch

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listenstotrees
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posted May 31, 2009 05:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for listenstotrees        Reply w/Quote
Interesting, thanks!

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GypseeWind
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posted July 18, 2009 08:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind        Reply w/Quote
LLT;

Your thread title caught my eye as soon as I came to this forum.
I do not usually post here, for a few reasons.
One of them is because while I think very deep thoughts it is hard for me to verbalize them well.
It never seems to come out the way it is in my head, so I tend to leave those thoughts in my head, or on my notebook pages.

I have the utmost respect for people like you and Valus and many others who have the talent and ability and courage to say what you believe.
It is quite a talent to be a visionary.
Maybe it is just my makeup as a person, but I can't seem to convey seriousness, so I have given up.
Often this happens to sagittarius people.
The theatre symbol of comedy and tragedy has special meaning to me, because these are the things that have shaped my life.

Anyway, in my simple terms, I just wanted to say in reply to your question, that what I have learned in my 42 years of life is that yes, is the answer to your question.

In my book unconditional love and the removal of ego are the way or the path to liberation.
At least this has proven to be so in my life.
So many things we do and say on any given day have to do with ego.
Yet letting go of that is virtually impossible. It is a built in survival mechanism, yet gets so twisted as to be a tool for success, financial gain, love, freedom, everything that should be quite the opposite of ego.
Unconditonal love is easier for me.
Once you become a parent, that one comes more natural, but to practice it with those not your kin, well, a different story, and knock, knock, who is it? EGO, here.

But you get my drift. If we could find a way, every day, just to improve in those areas, think of how much better a world we would have.
People think if you believe this way, you are a doormat.
I don't really care if people think of me as a doormat.

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SunChild
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posted July 20, 2009 01:06 AM              Reply w/Quote
LTT & Valus

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katatonic
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good thread, LTT. i agree with gypsee, yes it is possible, and yes it is most likely the only way!

i had to put david icke down. the headaches and the gloom were too much for me this time! at the moment i am reading arjuna ardagh's TRANSLUCENT REVOLUTION. just started it but he is talking about the same thing as you here.

he calls the construct that creates separation the "iago factor". if you know othello you know what he is talking about, and if you have experienced awakening you also know what he is talking about. i suspect you do!

ps. i love the pictures, especially the tree!

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listenstotrees
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posted July 23, 2009 04:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for listenstotrees        Reply w/Quote
Thank you Gypsee and Katatonic for sharing your thoughts.
Love to all.

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SilverStone
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posted July 27, 2009 07:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SilverStone        Reply w/Quote
Remaining true to yourself and true to your belief systems; and incorporating all of the postiveness in will get you there, girl! It's what you create

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posted April 26, 2010 08:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for listenstotrees        Reply w/Quote
Bump.

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Nephthys
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posted July 07, 2010 05:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nephthys        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Therefore, I decided today...when trying to visualize what a more harmonious/ higher dimensional reality would look like (without abandoning individuality altogether).....

It would be a place where "every being on the planet feels its interconnectedness to all other life....as well as a deep enhanced empathy".


What do you think and is it possible?


This is BEAUTIFUL It would be amazing.

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hypatia238
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posted February 27, 2017 11:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238        Reply w/Quote

Mirror neurons

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