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Sulkyarcher
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posted January 25, 2017 12:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sulkyarcher     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Have you ever done it? Spiritually surrender? Could be for any reason; anxiety, tired of being afraid, having no solution to a problem, feeling corned, not having answers, etc, etc.

What happened after you did it?

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posted January 25, 2017 04:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Thought of Heaven and Relationship with the Divine One grew sweeter ... stronger, and more solid in its alter-Reality.

And my body still hurt, my head ached. I was very hungry, tired, constantly waiting on ~Something....

And I had Joy inside me. Hope.

You lose your Hope? and you have nothing to go on.

While the Earth ....
still revolves on its axis,
going around the Sun,
which orbits in the
Grander Universe,
with Galaxies,
and More Galaxies.

.....

(topic) Psalm 8 ... What is Man, that you are Mindful of Him? [1:39] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHTqxAUETEQ

O LORD, our Lord!
How majestic is your name in all of the earth!
You let your glory be seen in the heavens above.
Out of the mouth of babes and infants,
You have established a fortress of strength,
to still the enemy and quiet the avenger.

When I look at your heavens,
the work of your fingers,
the moon and the stars, which you have set in their place;
What is man, that you are mindful of him?
The son of man, that you care for him?

You made him a little lower than the angels,
and crowned him with glory and honor.
You have given him the dominion over the works of your hands;
You put all things under his feet:
All sheep and oxen,
and also the beasts of the field;
The birds of heaven,
the fish of the sea,
and whatever passes along the paths of the seas.

O LORD, our Lord!
How majestic is your name in all of the earth!

(music) Cells, Planets (Erika Lloyd, Avanti) [6:15] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQMOH4C7CAc

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posted January 25, 2017 09:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sulkyarcher     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mirage29:
The Thought of Heaven and Relationship with the Divine One grew sweeter ... stronger, and more solid in its alter-Reality.

And my body still hurt, my head ached. I was very hungry, tired, constantly waiting on ~Something....

And I had Joy inside me. Hope.

You lose your Hope? and you have nothing to go on.

While the Earth ....
still revolves on its axis,
going around the Sun,
which orbits in the
Grander Universe,
with Galaxies,
and More Galaxies.

.....

(topic) Psalm 8 ... What is Man, that you are Mindful of Him? [1:39] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHTqxAUETEQ

O LORD, our Lord!
How majestic is your name in all of the earth!
You let your glory be seen in the heavens above.
Out of the mouth of babes and infants,
You have established a fortress of strength,
to still the enemy and quiet the avenger.

[b]When I look at your heavens,
the work of your fingers,
the moon and the stars, which you have set in their place;
What is man, that you are mindful of him?
The son of man, that you care for him?

You made him a little lower than the angels,
and crowned him with glory and honor.
You have given him the dominion over the works of your hands;
You put all things under his feet:
All sheep and oxen,
and also the beasts of the field;
The birds of heaven,
the fish of the sea,
and whatever passes along the paths of the seas.

O LORD, our Lord!
How majestic is your name in all of the earth!

(music) Cells, Planets (Erika Lloyd, Avanti) [6:15] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQMOH4C7CAc [/B]


I once lost my faith during a Pluto transit, once.

I'm slowly getting it back!

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mirage29
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posted January 26, 2017 12:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Sulkyarcher:
I once lost my faith during a Pluto transit, once.

I'm slowly getting it back!


Day by Day... Step by Step

(music) Step by Step (Whitney Houston) [4:11] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWa5vE4MUpU

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posted January 26, 2017 02:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sulkyarcher     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mirage29:
Day by Day... Step by Step

(music) Step by Step (Whitney Houston) [4:11] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWa5vE4MUpU


Haha! She wasn't my favorite singer, but I do love her 80's stuff because I love the 80's!!!

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posted January 26, 2017 10:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Surrender.....

Thanks for listening. 'I Love my Whitney'!! LOL. Very 'spiritual'.

She did GREAT Gospel music, because she felt it 'down deep in her soul'... Elvis did too.

Some of the greatest Inspirational artists in the mundane entertainment field spotlights came out of a life where they had Spiritually surrendered.

People might not be able to understand what that 'x-factor' is?... The x-factor is The Christ (x-Mas?) That's called 'the anointing' or for some, the Holy Spirit's presence and flow. God grants individuals with Gifts at their birth. ... If they develop their spiritual life, the particular Gift is ENHANCED. ... You get the extra-booster, the sense of that 'WorldClass' quality that sets you aside from the rest of the herd.

Talent... applied Discipline. Then ADD The Anointing (aka Flow).


Doesn't mean the individuals have had their 3-D lives together all the way, but they had 'extra help available' to them on the inside to get through it.

We can Spiritually Surrender, AND, we still have to 'do' the work of living and growing ourselves, wanting to DO the Right thing, and living by those Values as BEST we can. Doesn't mean you're not messed up, or that you make mistakes..... or don't have faults and shortcomings.

There are no perfect saints...

But we can be saints when we become Aware, and set self onto a committed Journey, not perfect but being Perfected along the way.

Sometimes that doesn't always feel good to grow, at all....

It's not until afterwards... that you get the 'ah' and 'aha' moments after a level of struggles have been won. ....

People who have spiritually surrendered have 'more windows' available in their soul.

They can open their souls like Beams of Light, like Lanterns and portals, Allowing fresh Winds to have Spirit blow-through with a Visitation....

The Soul, as God Wills, has the ability to gain Refreshments WHILE it is Walking in the Garden, on its day to day Journey.

Every moment is a Miracle ....

Being here now?....

There's a spirit that guides me
A Light that shines for me
My life is Worth the living,
I don't need to see the end

(music) Sweet Surrender (John Denver, lyrics) [5:00] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBax9ugLF1A

- http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Denver,_John

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posted January 26, 2017 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted January 27, 2017 02:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sulkyarcher     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ ^

I like the idea of working with spirit. I should remember that!

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posted January 27, 2017 12:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted January 28, 2017 12:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Faith ...

and Sulky!

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posted February 06, 2017 02:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think a holographic universe makes sense. Maybe the Sun won't ever supernova then. Linda said the Earth will always be. Makes you wonder what she knew and would have revealed in Twelfth Night Secrets.

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posted February 07, 2017 10:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Or more rather a Matrix.

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posted February 08, 2017 06:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But not in a bad way--like the movie.

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posted February 09, 2017 12:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sulkyarcher     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ ^

What about if the universe is a Super computer??

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posted February 09, 2017 11:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ayelet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I think a holographic universe makes sense. Maybe the Sun won't ever supernova then. Linda said the Earth will always be. Makes you wonder what she knew and would have revealed in Twelfth Night Secrets.

Where did Linda said the Earth will always be?

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posted February 09, 2017 11:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ayelet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To Sulky - I have experienced surrender during a Pluto transit too! What was your transit?
It didn't feel sweet to me. It felt like I lost it all, and it gave a strange peace to me. But now I'm optimistic again..

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posted February 10, 2017 12:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It was during a major Pluto transit that I had a divine revelation and became genuinely religious (though unlikely to be in the way most here would assume). After Pluto exited that House, then I returned to my normal ignosticism. (There were other astrological factors.)

In a way it was surrender in that I let go of many assumptions and behaved even recklessly, and it turned out for the best that I did (some severe bumps and scars not withstanding). But as I became much more active in shaping my own life, some people would find it hard to see that as surrender, even if I was told in a divine vision that I must grow up and learn to stand with a goddess against Ragnarok rather than seeking to be an eternal child of a god wanting to return to some divine womb.

In my early 20s, I did have a nightmare in which I completely gave up, and with that I gave up on the shoulds ("I should," "People should," "Life should," etc). It was incredibly liberating and I experimented by dropping all my responsibilities for that day and living it if it were my last. It was one of the best days of my life. Of course I can't live that way all or even most of the time, but I try to make days that are just that. And I don't plan them out, it's just what I want to do, even if it's just basking in the sunshine or stars.

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posted February 10, 2017 01:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sulkyarcher     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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To Sulky - I have experienced surrender during a Pluto transit too! What was your transit?
It didn't feel sweet to me. It felt like I lost it all, and it gave a strange peace to me. But now I'm optimistic again..

Neptune is transiting my 12th house. It's more of a Neptune transit than a Pluto transit.

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posted February 10, 2017 01:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sulkyarcher     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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It was during a major Pluto transit that I had a divine revelation and became genuinely religious (though unlikely to be in the way most here would assume). After Pluto exited that House, then I returned to my normal ignosticism. (There were other astrological factors.)

In a way it was surrender in that I let go of many assumptions and behaved even recklessly, and it turned out for the best that I did (some severe bumps and scars not withstanding). But as I became much more active in shaping my own life, some people would find it hard to see that as surrender, even if I was told in a divine vision that I must grow up and learn to stand with a goddess against Ragnarok rather than seeking to be an eternal child of a god wanting to return to some divine womb.

In my early 20s, I did have a nightmare in which I completely gave up, and with that I gave up on the shoulds ("I should," "People should," "Life should," etc). It was incredibly liberating and I experimented by dropping all my responsibilities for that day and living it if it were my last. It was one of the best days of my life. Of course I can't live that way all or even most of the time, but I try to make days that are just that. And I don't plan them out, it's just what I want to do, even if it's just basking in the sunshine or stars.


Oh yeah, Pluto transits make you lose a lot!

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posted February 10, 2017 07:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ayelet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was born with Neptune in the 12th. How does it make you feel?
You wrote you once lost your faith during a Pluto transit. May I ask which transit?

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posted February 10, 2017 02:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sulkyarcher     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I was born with Neptune in the 12th. How does it make you feel?
You wrote you once lost your faith during a Pluto transit. May I ask which transit?

It was Pluto transit through my 10th house. The surrender made me feel relaxed! LOL! But it was also a very dark transit.

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posted February 10, 2017 09:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ayelet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting. I kinda love my 12th house Neptune. I would call it "spiritual yearning". All my life I have this yearning for something which cannot be expressed with words. Haven't thought about it much as 'surrender'. Pluto made me feel that way. What aspects has your tNeptune been making?

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posted February 14, 2017 11:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not a fan of Neptune. Maybe I need to make friends with mine.

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This is what a cancer girl was explaining to me, she just wants to "surrender" to everything. This is more a thing for negative signs i think, as positive signs are too busy pursuing their desires to "fall back and surrender."

Perhaps a water thing as well. It is amazing becuase if you have that connection to spirit; you know you can trust it

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posted February 15, 2017 02:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Neptune is too involved with escapism.

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