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Padre35
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posted May 09, 2013 09:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Well, not to limit discussion based on setting up verbal rules (or typed in this case):

When the term "God" is used in a metaphysical context, what does it mean to you?

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posted May 10, 2013 01:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's hard to say for me at this point.

God is....

Distance
Detachment
Waiting
Unreal
Observing
Lonely
a Joke
Wise
Quiet
Living
Hiding

waiting to be noticed.

a myth
a fairy tale (hate those)
Unreliable
Disappointing

That's it for today.
Could change tomorrow.

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posted May 10, 2013 02:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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When the term "God" is used in a metaphysical context, what does it mean to you?

It would be AS AN EXAMPLE, like a big clear jello ball... God is represented by the clear jello.

The jello holds everything in place, and even nutrifies the things in the ball. God loves all his creation in this jello.

yep... God is One big jello mould, and we are the cherries inside it...

(oh-boy... I gotta go to bed.... I think I typed this in a half-dream state... :sleeping:

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posted May 10, 2013 06:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The most profound and "loaded" word in our language. The most profound archetype in the spiritual unconscious of mankind. God is the All, the Spirit which underlies, interprenetrates, transcends, predates, emanates, upholds, and eludes the All. God is the foundtainhead of every virtue; Love, Truth, Charity, Compassion, Hope, Faith, Courage, Patience, Devotion, etc. God is what is hinted at by all deep experiences of the mystical. God is a part of myself and all things, and we are all a part of God.

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posted May 10, 2013 09:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Heart--Shaped Cross:
The most profound and "loaded" word in our language. The most profound archetype in the spiritual unconscious of mankind. God is the All, the Spirit which underlies, interprenetrates, transcends, predates, emanates, upholds, and eludes the All. God is the foundtainhead of every virtue; Love, Truth, Charity, Compassion, Hope, Faith, Courage, Patience, Devotion, etc. God is what is hinted at by all deep experiences of the mystical. God is a part of myself and all things, and we are all a part of God.

Indeed

The 99 Beautiful Names as the perfect balance and harmony of all that is and creates understanding in the humans heart of how they Work together.

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posted May 10, 2013 09:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote





1
The Exceedingly Compassionate, The Exceedingly Beneficent, The Exceedingly Gracious

2

الرحيم

Ar-Raḥīm

The Exceedingly Merciful


3

الملك

Al-Malik

The King, The Sovereign


4

القدوس

Al-Quddūs

The Holy, The Divine

5

السلام

As-Salām

The Peace, The Source of Peace and Safety


6

المؤمن

Al-Muʾmin

The Guarantor, The Affirming


7

المهيمن

Al-Muhaymin

The Guardian


8

العزيز

Al-ʿAzīz

The Almighty, The Invulnerable, The Honorable


9

الجبار

Al-Jabbār

The Irresistible, The Compeller

10

المتكبر

Al-Mutakabbir

The Majestic, The Supreme


11

الخالق

Al-Khāliq

The Creator


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البارئ

Al-Bāriʾ

The Evolver, The Developer


13

المصور

Al-Muṣawwir

The Fashioner, The Shaper, The Designer


14

الغفار

Al-Ġaffār

The Repeatedly Forgiving

15

القهار

Al-Qahhār

The Subduer

16

الوهاب

Al-Wahhāb

The Bestower


17

الرزاق

Ar-Razzāq

The Provider

18

الفتاح

Al-Fattāḥ

The Opener, The Victory Giver

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العليم

Al-ʿAlīm

The Knowing


20

القابض

Al-Qābiḍ

The Restrainer, The Straightener


21

الباسط

Al-Bāsiṭ

The Extender / Expander

22

الخَافِض

Al-Khāfiḍ

The Abaser


23

الرافع

Ar-Rāfiʿ

The Exalter


24

المعز

Al-Muʿizz

The Giver of Honour

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المذل

Al-Muḏill

The Giver of Dishonour


26

السميع

As-Samīʿ

The All Hearing


27

البصير

Al-Baṣīr

The All Seeing

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الحكم

Al-Ḥakam

The Judge, The Arbitrator


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العدل

Al-ʿAdl

The Utterly Just


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اللطيف

Al-Laṭīf

The Gentle, The Subtly Kind


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الخبير

Al-Khabīr

The All Aware


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الحليم

Al-Ḥalīm

The Forbearing, The Indulgent


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العظيم

Al-ʿAẓīm

The Magnificent


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الغفور

Al-Ġafūr

The Much-Forgiving


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الشكور

Aš-Šakūr

The Grateful


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العلي

Al-ʿAlī

The Sublime


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الكبير

Al-Kabīr

The Great


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الحفيظ

Al-Ḥafīẓ

The Preserver


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المقيت

Al-Muqīt

The Nourisher


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الحسيب

Al-Ḥasīb

The Bringer of Judgment


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الجليل

Al-Ğalīl

The Majestic


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الكريم

Al-Karīm

The Bountiful, The Generous


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الرقيب

Ar-Raqīb

The Watchful


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المجيب

Al-Muğīb

The Responsive, The Answer


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الواسع

Al-Wāsiʿ

The Vast, The All-Embracing, The Omnipresent, The Boundless


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الحكيم

Al-Ḥakīm

The Wise


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الودود

Al-Wadūd

The Loving


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المجيد

Al-Mağīd

All-Glorious, The Majestic


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الباعث

Al-Bāʿiṯ

The Resurrecter


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الشهيد

Aš-Šahīd

The Witness

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الحق

Al-Ḥaqq

The Truth, The Reality


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الوكيل

Al-Wakīl

The Trustee, The Dependable, The Advocate


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القوي

Al-Qawwī

The Strong


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المتين

Al-Matīn

The Firm, The Steadfast


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الولي

Al-Walī

The Friend, Patron and Helper


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الحميد

Al-Ḥamīd

The All Praiseworthy


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المحصي

Al-Muḥṣī

The Accounter, The Numberer of All


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المبدئ

Al-Mubdiʾ

The Originator, The Producer, The Initiator


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المعيد

Al-Muʿīd

The Restorer, The Reinstater Who Brings Back All


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المحيي

Al-Muḥyī

The Giver of Life


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المميت

Al-Mumīt

The Destroyer, The Bringer of Death


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الحي

Al-Ḥayy

The Living


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القيوم

Al-Qayyūm

The Subsisting, The Guardian


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الواجد

Al-Wāğid

The Perceiver, The Finder, The Unfailing


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الماجد

Al-Māğid

The Illustrious, The Magnificent


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الواحد

Al-Wāḥid

The One, The Unique


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الاحد

Al-ʾAḥad

The Unity, The Indivisible


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الصمد

Aṣ-Ṣamad

The Eternal, The Absolute, The Self-Sufficient


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القادر

Al-Qādir

The Able


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المقتدر

Al-Muqtadir

The Determiner, The Dominant


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المقدم

Al-Muqaddim

The Expediter, He Who Brings Forward


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المؤخر

Al-Muʾakhkhir

The Delayer, He Who Puts Far Away


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الأول

Al-ʾAwwal

The First, The Beginning-less


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الأخر

Al-ʾAkḫir

The Last, The Endless


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الظاهر

Aẓ-Ẓāhir

The Manifest, The Evident, The Outer


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الباطن

Al-Bāṭin

The Hidden, The Unmanifest, The Inner


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الوالي

Al-Wālī

The Patron, The Protecting Friend, The Friendly Lord


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المتعالي

Al-Mutaʿālī

The Supremely Exalted, The Most High


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البر

Al-Barr

The Good, The Beneficent


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التواب

At-Tawwāb

The Ever Returning, Ever Relenting


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المنتقم

Al-Muntaqim

The Avenger


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العفو

Al-ʿAfū

The Pardoner, The Effacer, The Forgiver


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الرؤوف

Ar-Raʾūf

The Kind, The Pitying


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مالك الملك

Mālik-ul-Mulk

The Owner of all Sovereignty


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ذو الجلال والإكرام

Dhū-l-Ğalāli
wa-l-ʾikrām

The Lord of Majesty and Generosity


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المقسط

Al-Muqsiṭ

The Equitable, The Requiter


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الجامع

Al-Ğāmiʿ

The Gatherer, The Unifier

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الغني

Al-Ġanī

The Rich, The Independent


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المغني

Al-Muġnī

The Enricher, The Emancipator


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المانع

Al-Māniʿ

The Withholder, The Shielder, The Defender


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الضار

Aḍ-Ḍārr

The Distressor, The Harmer, The Afflictor


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النافع

An-Nāfiʿ

The Propitious, The Benefactor, The Source of Good

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النور

An-Nūr

The Light


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الهادي

Al-Hādī

The Guide, The Way


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البديع

Al-Badīʿ

The Incomparable, The Unattainable


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الباقي

Al-Bāqī

The Immutable, The Infinite, The Everlasting

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الوارث

Al-Wāriṯ

The Heir, The Inheritor of All


98

الرشيد

Ar-Rašīd

The Guide to the Right Path


99

الصبور

Aṣ-Ṣabūr

The Timeless, The Patient

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Padre35
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posted May 10, 2013 11:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Well, whether it is "El" or "El Echad" or The Most High or what have you the thinking is reducing existence into a concept that mankind can wrap our minds around.

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juniperb
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posted May 10, 2013 11:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I suspect, until we perfect, that`s the idea

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posted May 10, 2013 12:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mockingbird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Juni - Have you seen or heard of "The 99"?
It's a comic book and cartoon series based off if the 99 faces/names of God. There are 99 superheroes who each embody a different facet.

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As for me, God is Love and is Home.

That's what I felt and Knew when I died, so that's all I can speak to.

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posted May 10, 2013 12:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mockingbird, no I haven`t. I will poke around online and see if it`s available to read.

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posted May 10, 2013 01:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Interesting to think as people at this stage of development, we have to use sounds and picture symbols to create the word "God".

Do wonder if at some point in our evolution if there will be a sort of unspoken communication of the concept between people w/o the usage of sounds or picture symbols?

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posted May 10, 2013 04:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Padre, I think the Mystics have that covered and translate for us until we can become One with that state.

And yes, I have Faith we too can evolve to that state of communication.

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posted May 10, 2013 05:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
GOD is the great " I AM " !

That is a super list juniperb! All the "I AM"s of God.....

Thanks!

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posted May 12, 2013 08:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mbird, thanks for the info. I read up on them. Nice!

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posted May 12, 2013 10:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chryseis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
More and more I wake up to ghosts in my dreams.

Early this morning I woke briefly to a scenario whereby I was speaking hebrew words to a ghost inhabiting someone else. I just googled the meanings and am still wondering about the whole thing.

The story was that I was passing the corner of the front yard of someone's house. In the corner was a tall tree and a shed with an old man in it. Perhaps it was the husband of the old woman that lived at the house. Someone communicated to me that the ghost had left Bonnie's yard/house, Bonnie was the old woman that had lived at the house. I then found myself in a room somewhere with a wardrobe at the wall and some ladies seated at a table. The ladies said that the ghost was now in 'Laura' and they looked towards a corner of the room between them and the wardrobe. I looked over the table and saw there was a teenage girl/youngish woman there. She stood up and came around to stand in full view in front of the cupboard. She possibly was naked and she began to speak and then I saw that her face changed. And I agreed with the ladies and said yes I can see that the ghost is now in Laura.

I was a bit scared and started to speak in what I thought was Hebrew when I was speaking the words, and now have since found out that they have feasible Hebrew meanings.

I said 'Ah allay ek (or ay, both are remembered in that last part of the phrase, then I said) Ah malik ay'

Ah, apparently means God or from God
allay, means 'woe'
ek, means 'how' and is derived from 'ay' - ay was a canaanite city.

Malik (and my memory saw malech simultaneously) means king or chieftain and both malik/malech mean the same thing.

So I'm not sure of the connotation of ek meaning 'how' and ay (also known as 'Ai')meaning the canaanite city but possibly the translation encompasses that the means of something is the same as the saying 'all roads lead to rome' or perhaps that any issue can be sourced from whatever the goings on or significance was in the canaanite city. In some meanings, 'ay' is also associated with 'how'. So maybe it was a city that was associated with the derivative of some kind of suffering, and when I look it up on the internet, the canaanites apparently had terrible 'sins'.

So, possibly, and of course I can only partially believe the translations as its a bit of pot luck as to whether I have actually pulled the right meaning - however, going off the above meanings, I would say that the hebrew words mean:

From God - woe - how (perhaps I said what is this suffering for you to be like this, maybe? Or perhaps I was calling it to realize that this was between God and 'it'.

then something about: From God - king - of Ay, the Canaanite city.

So yeah, I'm not sure the emphasis on the words now, whether I was commanding or consolatory, or just trying to make it realize something.

When I said the first phrase, I felt like the ghost was enhanced and came more to the fore of the figure, then when I said the second phrase straight after, the ghost seemed to shrink and concentrate towards the middle abdomen of the person and may have been expelled.

I had a faint sensation that I had called the ghost out and my heart was racing for a bit and as the visions diminished I saw a goldish swirly cloud light in my half asleepness or dream state swirling there and I felt it was the ghost - but they were still freaking me out and I'm not sure what had just occurred. I also had a faint impression that the ghost might stay with me and not go away, but after 3 secs or so it went away and I must have gone back to sleep. Before I went to sleep I tried to make myself remember the words because I knew I would want to explore it all once awake.

So I guess now I wonder what has really occurred if anything. I think it strange that I was reciting hebrew and mentioning God. The ghost was terrifying in its strange state. I have no idea who Laura is though do know a couple of Lauras.

Laura is a latin name but does have a Hebrew associated name as well. The latin name means 'laurel' or sweet bay and is a symbol of honour, distinction etc. The hebrew version is Dafna, and probably both versions are derived from the old greek name Daphne, who was a nymph that was changed into a laurel tree when she was trying to escape from Apollo.

I know an old lady from my work called Bonnie. She was in her nineties and may have died by now as she was no longer suitable for rehabiliation and was unable to go home due to her deconditioned state. She was very sweet and once when she was unwell and the doctors were attending her after a loss of consciousness, she spontaneously reached her hand out to me and asked me to help her. She was infact incontinent of faeces and urine but the way she had reached her hand gently out to me had touched my heart as she calmly looked at me with such dignified sincerity - I had felt honoured at the time - though I guess some would be laughing at this account as I then had to apply myself to washing her and changing her clothes. She had had several occasions where she went into a type of coma over the last several days. Her poor old broken femur had not repaired properly and she had a degree of dementia. Her prognosis was not good and she had been delegated to a nursing home due to being unsuitable for either rehab or going back to her home with her old husband. I can't now remember exactly what she said when she reached out for my hand but it was possibly, 'oh hello darling, you'll help me won't you'.

I have had several dreams in the last couple of years whereby australian aboriginal ghosts come to me. I thought I might have one aboriginal ancestor but there is no evidence of it in the records as far as I can see yet, however, one ancestor's middle name was Adelong, which is an aboriginal name but also the name of the town that he was born in. I wonder if Bonnie had aboriginal in her as she had an olive skin and was quite laid back and not given to fussing - also she stoically handled severe pain without complaint - which maybe is consistent with how the older generation of aboriginal people were - due to the history of aboriginal people since white settlement in Australia.

I wonder about the dream symbolism of the ladies at the table. I only remember two vaguely and am not sure if the table was round or square. The 'norns' come to mind for me when thinking about the women. They are supposed to represent the past, present and future of fate. I think only two were present so perhaps if one was missing maybe it was the one that represented the 'future'. I didn't see them after my interaction with the ghost but felt they were looking on.

I felt I was kind of supplied the hebrew words as if a microsecond in front of my thinking, someone had told me the words to say, and I felt like I had to really work to say them believably, almost like I had to step up to the plate and look like I knew what I was talking about. Surely, it can't be this way really though. I wonder now if it is all to do with my own psyche or whether I actually had to perform some kind of vocation in this - I might be able to get more insight into it all over time as I am writing this straight after googling the meanings of the hebrew words.

I'm so grateful for the experience though, especially because it seems to have some kind of validity to the meanings.

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posted May 13, 2013 09:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chryseis,
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I wonder about the dream symbolism of the ladies at the table

Have you posted it in Astral Realms for an interpretation?
If this is an experience, post in Uni-versal Codes for sharing as well
Interesting indeed!!

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posted May 13, 2013 07:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chryseis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you juniperb,

I feel that the meaning of the ladies at the table is about a change of fortune/circumstance that is required due to other social connections that are to be included in my life and are formative for other directions in my life. From the sensation of the weight and age of the women, a feeling arises in me that there is a degree of burden that will accompany this change.

The wardrobe in the dream also speaks of a necessary transition but it will arise with me pretty much oblivious of what is happening until I'm entrenched in the change.

I could post in the other forums but I was chiefly adding to this one because I thought it amazing to speak Hebrew concerning issues with 'God'. I have channelled other languages before in narratives but this was something new - a spontaneous addition to a dream and being enabled to remember the words so that I could explore them once fully awake.

I generally find standard dream interpretation falls short of much of the content and meaning of dreams. I don't worry too much about reposting in different forums because I would imagine that most people are reading off the daily threads anyway.

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posted May 15, 2013 07:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for geea     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
for me God just is. He is impossible to define. He is not the universe(He is beyond it), not a force--in physics, forces only exist as a result of an Interaction between two objects. When the interaction ceases, the two objects no longer experience the force; Not an avatar, and especially not a concept.
We have reduced Him to a concept. If God is a concept than we all are concepts.
He is the One that chooses not to finish everything when He has all the reasons and power to do it. That is why i can only love God. It is impossible not to love Him when you become aware of certain things. He is true selfless mercy and love. God is the original when you experience the second-hand copy from various people or situations. God is to be loved, not feared, if you fear Him, you live in fear of an idol that isn't God, it's something else. This is one of the biggest lies of all times, that God hates us. The true meaning of ”fear of God” is to be aware of His infinite power. The thought alone can make you humble and for some, ashamed.
He is the only One who can turn a truly bad situation into good. It is what lasts in a person until death, which determines them to hope.

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