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Topic: The cyphers and their relation to each other as a cause to harmony or disharmony in c
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Ayelet Knowflake Posts: 104 From: Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 26, 2014 05:36 PM
The c on the subject line stands for compound numbers.When i posted the question about 10 vs 19, chaldean wrote back on the relationship between the cyphers 1 and 0, which creates the dynamics in the number 10, and on the great balance between alpha 1 and omega 9, which creates the harmony in the number 19. One can also see that the harmlonious duo between 1 and 9 is reflected by the trine between the corresponding signs, leo and aries. Can we understand, turning to astrology and other means by which to interpret numbers, why a certain number is harmonious while another isn't? The number 24, for example, is very harmonious. But the aspect between cancer (2) and aquarious (4) is 150 degrees, not the most harmonious relationship. How could that be? The number 18 is considered hard, and here we have again a relationship between 1, leo, and capricorn, 8, meaning another 150 degrees, which again is not the best, but also not the hardest. Another issue to investigate: the order of the ciphers. Why does the number 12 is considered more challenging, while 21 is more rewarding? In the number 12 we have first 1, the sun, then 2, the moon. shouldn't that be the natural order? I know the numbers' significances are also drawn from the tarot, but i'd like to relate to the cyphers, their order and astrology or any other way by which to understand them as particles which relate to one another and create a whole. I'd love to hear any ideas. IP: Logged |
Ayelet Knowflake Posts: 104 From: Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 27, 2014 03:28 PM
Is this a right way with which to analyse the numbers?IP: Logged |
Chahldean Moderator Posts: 224 From: Everywhere I've Been Registered: Jun 2009
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posted March 02, 2014 08:22 PM
Halo a Gain Ayelet~ Another Good Quest-Eon and Observation.... Opening our Third I and seeing Numbers personified. There is much Logic and Intuition used with Interpretation, as All Fields of Perception are correct when standingUnder. There are no wrong answers, if You Will. As there are many Scopes and Lenses to see through, Once we begin to Truly contemplate Numbers as Symbols, we reLease the preconceived notions of what "we are taught and learn" and embrace our Primal notions of Glyphs, prior to verbal communication, thus enhancing our relationship to Numbers as Cycles of our Selves. Layering Numerology and Astrology upon One and Other, we see many facets of the same Diamond. Each perspective gives us a Unique glance at the same View. Like specific pieces of a Puzzle that change shape to coordinate ever Evolving images. The Primary Numbers are Truly the only Players in the Game with each Glyph having it's own Special Qualities and Power. When combined and configured in multiple Orders of succession, they are altered and re-calibrated with those unique principles accordingly. As let's say....a Leo born on the 2nd vs a Leo born on the 7th. The main frame remains the same with the components varying in detail. The Progression of the Glyphs begins with the Cypher and ends with the same, creating the Lemniscate, or the Symbol of Eternity. All "Numbers" are merely a compounded advancement of the Prime 1, or Self through the culmination of All Numbers, 9. However, when placed separately, each Glyph or Number, stands Solo in it's own unique identity. No number exists without the other Numbers and all the numbers cease to exist without a One. When dealing in compound Numbers, as you have indicated, we see the personification of the Whole hybrids created, but the Numbers remain individual in terms of their "power". In the Number 12, We find the "Sacrifice" or the "Victim" by interpretation. While 1 & 2 are eternally attracted and drawn together, when grouped in this Order, we see 2 kneeling behind the Power of 1(or Teacher), reflecting emotional submission; thus creating the after effect of the Power of Intellect leading over the sublimate Power of the Emotion. This "sacrifice", while at first appearing to Be challenging, actually illuminates the Mind with subconscious answers....thus producing the "Victim or Sacrifice." While the Number 21, as adorned as the "Crown of the Magi" and "the Universe" and being the SAME NUMBERS but placed in a different Order of importance, shows the Number 2 kneeling before the Power of the Sun (King/Crown) resulting in the adornation of Power through emotion and intuition. Victory is ensured after the struggle of emotion, or as they say... a Karmic Reward is in Order. As we begin to see these Glyphs as individuals First, then coupled pairings, we can begin to understand their relationships with One and Other, no matter the compound Number we interpret.... When we start there and then delve into the next layer of Astrological interpretation, as you have indicated, we then begin to see the Syncronicities of the 9 Numbers, the 12 Houses and the many aspects they perform on the Stage of Human Life. Hope this makes sense. ------------------ Gnosis ThySelf Knowledge bows to Spirit IP: Logged |
Ellynlvx Moderator Posts: 6356 From: Mountain Gate Registered: Aug 2013
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posted March 03, 2014 01:15 AM
That's kind of where I evolved to, I started with the Linda book, eventually I just would see a number and think of it in terms of the Tarot Key.You know 27 would be the seven working through the Power of two. Nine resulting. Also the Sephiroth, I just evolved with my different learning techniques. They say it is good to Meditate on the Keys to gain a further Insight into a Quest Ion. IP: Logged |
Ellynlvx Moderator Posts: 6356 From: Mountain Gate Registered: Aug 2013
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posted March 03, 2014 01:28 AM
I guess I do it in that order, because I think in Hebrew when I think numbers, because I do things like the Divine Name in that language, so of course I do the numbers that way as well, as Hebrew reads from right to left in sequence. English in the opposite direction.Of course, that's very simple as the letters are also numbers in that Alphabet, no transposing necessary. Those people thought both when reading a sentence one and the other were the same, so they thought in that numerical language. IP: Logged |
jungle Knowflake Posts: 34 From: Registered: Feb 2014
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posted March 03, 2014 06:21 AM
quote: Originally posted by Chahldean:In the Number 12, We find the "Sacrifice" or the "Victim" by interpretation. While 1 & 2 are eternally attracted and drawn together, when grouped in this Order, we see 2 kneeling behind the Power of 1(or Teacher), reflecting emotional submission; thus creating the after effect of the Power of Intellect leading over the sublimate Power of the Emotion. This "sacrifice", while at first appearing to Be challenging, actually illuminates the Mind with subconscious answers....thus producing the "Victim or Sacrifice." While the Number 21, as adorned as the "Crown of the Magi" and "the Universe" and being the SAME NUMBERS but placed in a different Order of importance, shows the Number 2 kneeling before the Power of the Sun (King/Crown) resulting in the adornation of Power through emotion and intuition. Victory is ensured after the struggle of emotion, or as they say... a Karmic Reward is in Order.
Thank you for explaining this. I was searching for a deeper explanation on the number 12 because that's my birth day number. This post made things a lot clearer. IP: Logged |
Ayelet Knowflake Posts: 104 From: Registered: Sep 2010
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posted March 03, 2014 02:25 PM
Thank you, Chaldean, for your revealing post. and thank you too, Ellynlvx, for your reply. I would love to understand the numbers better. For example, Ellynlvx, you say that the power of 7 works through 2, resulting in 9. But what i would like to know is: Why this work results in 9? And i am not satisfied by the simple mathematical answer that they sum up to 9. I need to understand the process by which the relation between the meanings of 2 and 7 works to achieve the meaning of 9. Chaldean, is your analysis the result of meditation? And is there a book that can help me understand better the meaning of the numbers and the dynamics that work between them? IP: Logged |
Chahldean Moderator Posts: 224 From: Everywhere I've Been Registered: Jun 2009
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posted March 03, 2014 09:19 PM
Halo Again~Your Welcome, Jungle, I am glad it helped you. Greetings Ellynlvx~ Yes! The Hebrews are probably the most influential Culture (from the Essenes and Chaldeans) in our Resource of Numerology to date. One cannot read Glyphs a wrong Way, as the True Meanings are deeply Innate and Sublime, as are, let's say, the Ancient Nordic Runes. However, the relationships and proximities of Numbers to one another can alter their Power and Influence on each other and certainly when layered through Astrology, project a myriad of possible interpretations, creating the Unique Force Each HuMan brings to the Stage. The Ancient Druids, with their roots in Atlantis, bestowed the English Language (as you probably know) after the deluge, to cast hidden Esoteric Lore among the alphabet Glyphs, thus offering us the opportunity to seek the Truth in plain Sight. Again, there is no wrong answers when such Matters and topics are Pondered and Meditated on. And Ayelet~ I champion your Quest to Know such things with deeper meaning. Yes, meditation will give You the answers You need when delving into Glyphs. To Understand the Progression of Numbers is Truly Philosophical in Nature. From the Sole of 1 to the Whole of 10.... we move from Single Cell Embryo to the Vast Eternal Universe. However, to start with we can look where Man has written before....and Chiero is a good place. Linda transposed "most" of his findings in her books but he goes deeper in his books if you are so inclined. There are many others if you are interested but this is a Great Place to start.... http://www.e-bookspdf.org/download/cheiro-numerology.html Onward and Upward~!
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Ayelet Knowflake Posts: 104 From: Registered: Sep 2010
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posted March 04, 2014 08:10 AM
Thank you, Chaldean!IP: Logged |
Ellynlvx Moderator Posts: 6356 From: Mountain Gate Registered: Aug 2013
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posted March 04, 2014 08:34 AM
Crap, I saw that book yesterday "Cheiro's Book of Numbers" when I purchased the Atlantis album and my wonderful "Gooberz" which I spent half the night reading...I will tell them to hold it for me. IP: Logged |
Chahldean Moderator Posts: 224 From: Everywhere I've Been Registered: Jun 2009
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posted March 04, 2014 05:40 PM
You are most Welcome. If that Site gives you trouble downloading the PDF I know there is another somewhere on the Web.It is all Ways Good to actually "have the book" I think though....as I read such things prior to Dream State. Cheiro (John Warner/Lord Harmon) was mostly a Palmist though...and THAT book is worth reading as well!
Best of Luck on Your Pilgrim Progress.... ------------------ Gnosis ThySelf Knowledge bows to Spirit IP: Logged |
Ayelet Knowflake Posts: 104 From: Registered: Sep 2010
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posted March 04, 2014 06:36 PM
Thanks Chahldean. I had a trouble downloading, but i will find it. Perhaps it will triger my mind some more... IP: Logged |
Ellynlvx Moderator Posts: 6356 From: Mountain Gate Registered: Aug 2013
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posted March 05, 2014 03:42 AM
It's an old book, and they are holding it for me!It just figures that I would pick the most expensive book in the room, though. Sheesh. Well, it's better than the Lenormand Tarot, they wanted one twenty for them, ai-yee! I really think I picked two of the most precious in that room. IP: Logged |
Chahldean Moderator Posts: 224 From: Everywhere I've Been Registered: Jun 2009
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posted March 05, 2014 08:13 AM
Ayelet~Try this: http://docs9.chomikuj.pl/1648254527,PL,0,0,Cheiro's-Book-of-Numbers-The-Complete-Science-of-Numerology-by-Cheiro.pdf Ellynlyx~ I cannot tell you how Wise it is to buy Books.... especially in today's data hard drive Whirled. One day, they will be Colllector's items only. ------------------ Gnosis ThySelf Knowledge bows to Spirit IP: Logged |
Ellynlvx Moderator Posts: 6356 From: Mountain Gate Registered: Aug 2013
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posted March 05, 2014 08:39 AM
I Love Books. This is where I get mine from. IP: Logged |
Ayelet Knowflake Posts: 104 From: Registered: Sep 2010
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posted March 06, 2014 12:04 AM
Hi Chahldean and Ellynlvx! Thank you, Chahldean, for the new link. I didn't understand how to download the book because of the foreign language, and since i love books, decided to purchase a copy! It will take some time for the delivery, but i think it's worth the waiting. Love and light! And see you after i'll study some more... IP: Logged |
Ellynlvx Moderator Posts: 6356 From: Mountain Gate Registered: Aug 2013
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posted March 06, 2014 06:33 AM
That's what I just did!Here, this may help:
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Ayelet Knowflake Posts: 104 From: Registered: Sep 2010
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posted March 06, 2014 01:20 PM
Don't know how to post pictures IP: Logged |
Ellynlvx Moderator Posts: 6356 From: Mountain Gate Registered: Aug 2013
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posted March 06, 2014 02:27 PM
You just post the link and put the image code before and after.IP: Logged |
Ayelet Knowflake Posts: 104 From: Registered: Sep 2010
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posted March 06, 2014 07:30 PM
Thank you! i'll check it.IP: Logged |
Ellynlvx Moderator Posts: 6356 From: Mountain Gate Registered: Aug 2013
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posted March 07, 2014 05:21 AM
*tips hat*Just doin' my job, Ma'am. IP: Logged |
Ayelet Knowflake Posts: 104 From: Registered: Sep 2010
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posted March 08, 2014 10:24 AM
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Ayelet Knowflake Posts: 104 From: Registered: Sep 2010
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posted March 08, 2014 10:26 AM
I'll try again later. Meanwhile: IP: Logged |
Ayelet Knowflake Posts: 104 From: Registered: Sep 2010
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posted March 08, 2014 10:56 AM
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Ellynlvx Moderator Posts: 6356 From: Mountain Gate Registered: Aug 2013
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posted March 08, 2014 11:15 AM
Looks like you left a space.IP: Logged |