posted August 31, 2008 07:41 AM            

Well, the fact that their surnames have 5 letters doesn't mean much, so I went and calculated their full names, including John McCain and the discovery I made was interesting.

*Gooober, correct me if I am wrong*

The Democrats

Barack = 11
Obama = 15/6
Barack Obama = 17/8 (Star of the Magi)

Joe = 13/4
Biden = 17/8
Joe Biden = 12/3 (The Sacrifice - The Victim)

The Republicans

John = 18/9
McCain = 17/9
John McCain = 17/8 (Star of the Magi)

sarah = 12/3
Palin = 18/9
Sarah Palin = 12/3 (The Sacrifice - The Victim)

Now - Linda's interpretations:

12 - The Sacrifice--The Victim

One will periodically be sacrificed for the plans or intrigues of others. The number 12 warns of the necessity to be alert to every situation, to beware of false flattery from those who use it to gain their own ends. Be suspicious of those who offer a high position, and carefully analyze the motive. Although duplicity is not always present, forewarned is forearmed. There is a degree of mental anxiety, caused by the need to sacrifice personal goals to the ambition of others. A secondary meaning of this number should be considered. The figure 1 is the teacher (whether it be a person or Life itself). The figure 2 is the kneeling, submissive student. Sometimes, the result of severe emotional stress and mental anguish creates amnesia, forgetfulness of lessons preciously learned. 12 represents the educational process on all levels, the submission of dom, on both the spiritual and the intellectual levels. When the intellect is sacrificed to the feelings, the mind will be illuminated with the answers it seeks. Look within for the solution. Attention paid to the requirements of education will end suffering and bring success.

17 - The Star of the Magi

This is a highly spiritual number, and was expressed in symbolism by the ancient Chaldeans as the 8-pointed Star of Venus. The Star of the Magi is the symbol of LOVE and PEACE, and promises that the person or entity it represents will rise superior to the trials and difficulties of earlier life, with the ability to conquer former failure in personal relationships and career. 17 is "the number of Immortality" and indicated that the person's (or entity) name will live after him - (should one decide to die, that is, which is a choice, as you'll learn in Physical Immortality chapter). This is an extremely fortunate Compound number, with one warning. It reduced to the Single number 8, so it's important for anyone with 17 as a Compound Key Number to carefully read the section about the numbers 4 and 8 at the end of the chapter.

posted August 31, 2008 07:51 AM            

Obama and McCain are going to write history, and their VPs are going to be shadows in history because as far as numerology is concerned, they CAN NOT outshine their "presidents". Worse, they are going to do all the dirty work for their presidents and are going to receive bad press about it. Poor souls.

Numerology would be even more telling if it was coupled with a lexigram and an astro chart because McCain and Obama have the same numbers, so the other readings would show who has the upper hand. I am also a number 17 Name number like these two, and coupled with my lexigram and my astro chart- if I was running with them, I would have been the next president of the united states because in my name one gets the words "Winner", "Loved" and "Renowned"... so what I am going to do is work on their lexigrams too and see who has more auspicious words coming up.

Already, I see that John McCain has the word "no" in his lexigram, which tells me that all the things that he is being accused of will most likely never be proved.

But I digress here... back to Numerology.

AG - Can you supply me with their dates of birth too. I just woke up and I am groggy and a bit lazy, but if you give me time on this, I will find them myself because their birth numbers could show the difference between them that is needed to assess their possible destinies.

For now... chew on that a bit.

posted August 31, 2008 08:49 PM            

barack obama: born on 4 august 1961, so he's a 4 by birth. a leo born under the number of uranus (apparently his ascendant is aquarius as well). we all know about the karma and magic of the number 4. what is very interesting is that michelle obama's birthday is 17 january 1964, so she's a capricorn born under 8, and check this out.. her name equals 17 thus a triple influence of saturn so to speak. but she also has the blessing of 'the star of the magi'. since this couple are so intertwined with the numbers of fate and destiny (4 & 8), i am tempted to quote from star signs.. under the law of magnetic attraction, 4 and 8 people seem to be irresistibly drawn together. the combination cannot be called fortunate, at least not in a worldly sense, although it's common for 4 and 8 people to demonstrate deep devotion to one another (or one does, to an almost fanatical degree even when the other doesn't). for better or worse, especially during times of illness or other misfortune. some of the greatest examples of self-sacrifice in history are found when 8 and 4 people marry. the most pronounced aspect of this marriage is a sacrifice of some kind. yet, great good can come from such suffering, the couple can create unusually gifted children -- or produce the legacy of classical music, poetry, memorable writings of books, plays, and so forth...
the bond between michelle and barack seem to be amazing, and the way their numerology looks,i am going to go ahead and say..they will make history together (which they already have).
what is also interesting is barack's secondary compound number, using his birth date is 20, and joe biden is born on the 20 november 1942, which when added is = 20 ,from star signs again.. 'the awakening' also pictured by the chaldeans as 'the judgement', symbolized as a 'winged angel, sounding a trumpet, while from below a man, woman and child are seen asrising from a tomb, with their hands clasped in prayer'. at some time in the experience of the person represented by the number 20, there is a powerful awakening, bringing a new purpose, new plans, new ambitions -- the call to action for some great cause or ideal. some very intense numbers over here.

posted August 31, 2008 08:50 PM            

In the specific instance of the 29 vibration (bringing with it also the secondary vibration of 11, which should also be read regarding the way to relieve the karmic burden)--remember that the development of absolute faith in goodness and the power of the Self…the constant and energetic cultivation of optimism…will act as a miraculous medicine for the problems of the number 29.

After all, Job's burdens were finally lifted, when he had learned to accept full responsibility for his troubles, and not to blame others or seek revenge for the hurts he suffered. Not only did his long bad-luck streak end at last, he was given back everything he'd lost, several times over. So, if you were born on the 29th, change the vibration of your name to a powerful number, such as 19, follow Job's example, and soon you'll be as happy as--or happier than--anyone else. Interestingly, the name "Job" equals the powerful Compound number 10--a difficult vibration to defeat.

11
A Lion Muzzled--A Clenched Fist
This is a number of hidden trials and treachery from others. It represents two members of the same or the opposite sex--or two opposed situations. In either case, compatibility of interest is lacking, and interference from a third force must be conquered. The difficulties may also arise from the illusion of separation. It's necessary to unite divided goals to avoid a sense of frustrated incompletion. The third, interfering force can be a person or an idea; and it can take the form of a refusal to see the other side as an obstacle to harmony. The origin of the separating force must be identified, an attempt made to seek compromise. Occasionally, conflicting desires within one's own self are seen as in a reflecting mirror. Two forces or two desires stand apart and must ultimately unite for happiness. Yet, each must remain individual, even after being joined, for each possesses its own worth.

i can sympathize with the perils and sufferings which come with these compound numbers and on top of that he is a worrying virgo poor man. however, he still does some good numbers... the star of the magi through his name and 20, just like obama through his secondary birth number calculation. and prepare for a little more of WOW.. sarah palin, born on 11 february 1964. 11=2 (when we reduce it for the single number calculation), february= 2 (being the 2nd month), 1964=20=2, so her secondary birth number is 11+2+2=15=6 15
The Magician
15 is a number of deep esoteric significance, the alchemy vibration through which all magic is manifested. It's extremely lucky and carries the essence of enchantment with it. 15 is associated with "good talkers," eloquence of speech, and the gifts of music, art, and the drama. It bestows upon the person or entity represented by it a dramatic temperament and strong personal magnetism; a curiously compelling charisma. The 15 vibration is especially fortunate for obtaining money, gifts, and favors from others, because of its powerful appeal to the altruistic nature of people. However, there are no roses without thorns, and the ancients warn that 15 rules the lower levels of occultism when it is associated with the single numbers 4 or 8. Such people will use every art of magic--even black magic, hypnosis, and mental suggestion--to carry out their purpose. Or the contrary is true. The 4 or 8 person will become the victim of others using the same methods. Consequently, if the 15th is the birth date, and the name number is 4, 13, 22 or 31, the spelling of the name should be changed to equal a Compound number that reduces to the Single number 1, such as 10 or 19. If the birth date is the 15th, and the name number is 8, 17, or 26, the spelling should be changed to equal the number 6 or 24. If the name number is 15, and the person was born on the 8th, 17th, or 26th, the name number should be changed to equal 6 or 24.

It's important to read the section beginning on Page 211 about the numbers 4 and 8 for a fuller understanding of the reason behind this advice.

Other than this warning, the Compound number 15 is extremely fortunate. If you were born on the 15th day of any month, and the Compound number of your name is also a 15, you're blessed with the ability to bring great happiness to others and to shine much light into the darkness, assuming you don't use this magical and fortunate vibration for selfish purposes.

these people seem to be linked karmically, at least according to numerology. wow.. my head's spinning from all the spiraling. i'll come back and add more.

hope ya all enjoy this

love n peace

-gooober

posted September 01, 2008 03:31 PM            

Phew! *wipes sweat of proverbial brow*

These guys are probably the most powerful *possible* US presidents in a while. They have POWER dripping and oozing in all their pores! They can be dangerous too. They can create an autonomy in a democracy with the power that they can wield.

A little scary.

added: Barack has my Name and Birth numbers but my secondary is 33/6. Baracks's numbers seem to tell me that he may have an awakening that is fatalistic some time in his career.

posted September 03, 2008 01:40 PM            

More "4/8's" in the mix for the Obama's - Barack used to be known as Barry, which adds to an "8". One of their daughter's first name adds to a 13/4, Sasha. The other daughter's birthday is on July 4th. The Obamas sure seem to be riding the wave of these numbers. When Barack was wrongly described as being an elitist, Michelle was quick to admit that it wasn't so long ago that they were struggling to pay their bills. What a fantastic rise to fame and power in such a short time. That is the way of the numbers of Fate and Destiny!

Though no longer in the race, Hillary Clinton's numbers are: 16/7 + 28/1 = 8. Her birthday is on an "8" day as well. She really exemplifies the karma of the 8's, lessons in power and the material world. By the way, the date that Bill Clinton admitted he did "have sex with that woman" was on Aug 17th. Odd how those numbers have a way of piling up.

I thought it was interesting how the top 3 candidates all had powerful "8" influences for the '08 election, which is being held on November 4th, no less!

Can't wait to see your lexigrams, Unmoved.

posted September 04, 2008 07:17 PM            

I'm an 8 myself born on the 26th of December (1972). Maybe I should marry a politician.

posted November 05, 2008 04:43 PM            

numerology rocks

posted November 22, 2008 01:22 PM            

Hillary Clinton (a double 8) met with Barack Obama (name 8 and birthdate 4) on Nov. 13th to discuss the job of Secretary of State. It looks like she will probably get the appointment.

posted February 16, 2011 02:41 AM            

my name number is 14/5

If I included my middle name, it would be 17/8

I decided to just use my whole birth name for now on, sign all things with my first,middle,and last names. I usually sign all myself with my middle initial. I just added my middle name to my facebook profile.

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A different mind is NOT a deficient mind.

posted February 16, 2011 02:43 AM            

The person that loved most in the world except for my mom, my maternal grandfather was born on the 22nd.

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A different mind is NOT a deficient mind.

posted February 16, 2011 04:20 AM            

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A different mind is NOT a deficient mind.

posted February 16, 2011 12:40 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by blonderiverkat:
So Raymond...are you supposed to use the first, or first and middle...or your full name? My son has an 29 (yep) 16/7, 35/8...

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in Chaldean Numerology, you're supposed to use the names that are regularly used.

Chaldean Numerologists don't take the middle name into account unless it's regularly used.

Oh..I changed my mind.

I am thinking of just changing my last name to my biological father's last name. If I do that, then my name would be 45 which is the same as Linda Goodman's. It is the same as 27 which is known as the Sceptre.

17 reduces to 8 which is Saturnian number, and I don't want any more Saturnian energy. I am already very strong in Saturnian energy.

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A different mind is NOT a deficient mind.

posted February 16, 2011 05:53 PM            

Dan was born on April 8th, an 8 last name, and his last name in a 8! Whoa! lol

I am gonna have to check the rest of ours...