posted August 10, 2008 06:32 AM            

This is my first time posting, figured might as well holler with impact!

In November, i came across Star Signs & have jumped in with both feet so to speak - from being interested to being an avid student!

Linda mentions not to take her words at face value but encourages research right? Every other cross reference on the Chaldean system, considers one's whole date of birth (month & year included) not just date.

By date, i add up to an 8 (being born on the 26th) but considering year & month, i'm a 6. Would someone please help with what I actually am?

posted August 11, 2008 12:36 AM            

Nice quote Thank you for replying. At 27, I've found a lot of the number 8 analysis has applied but I've always been cross reference oriented & can't help verifying everything!

The irony though - someone once told me i have an Aries moon (am a Cancer sun), wouldn't it have to be that my birth number would be an 8 and the secondary number a 6!

My name:
Single number: 9
Compound number : 27

My birth:
Single number: 8
Compound number: 26

My birth (including month & year):
Single number : 6
Compound number : 33

posted August 11, 2008 05:45 PM            

I have:

Name Number: 17/8 Star of the Magi
Birth number: 13/4 Regenerate - Change
Secondary Birth number: 33/6 - and what I call, the number of Good Karma (good works and material gifts and LOVE)

With your 27, 26 and 33 - You pretty much have good numbers which work well together. You will help others but also you shall receive in return and get rewarded with authority and $$$ if you play the numbers well and handle them with love.

And... Welcome to LL

posted August 12, 2008 05:33 AM            

Thanks for the welcome & replying. Interesting nick! We share the same secondary birth number!

I feel much better reading your post. Honestly, ever since I read LG’s SS, I’ve been a tad disappointed & some part fearful. Especially the detailed parts of the 8 analysis. Im kinda freaked about doing anything on the 4th or 8th now.

Eerily some of it has proven true - I’ve already been through a really bad experience with an ex – who was a 15 which LG warns against, was in a 2nd relationship with someone I couldn’t have so it bothered me when she says 8 people have to pay a very high price for love.

Ironically unmoved, I’ve sort of always instinctively known that the number 6 was lucky/good for me. A lot of the ‘knowings’ contributed to my research on esoteric teachings.

I honestly don’t know how to “go about playing the numbers well or handling them with love”. I am trying with the small stuff (have a major purchase pending & will try to schedule it for the 24th for example) but am otherwise clueless. How do you think the Law of Attraction would work when pitched against this Unmoved? Sorry for being a pest but I’m really trying to find my way about this.

On the single numbers:

I resonate almost completely with the 8 (birth vibration) esp. Wisdom (have been called an old soul), learning through experience, & responsibility. Not entirely sure about stability or patience or financial security (have never starved or been broke) and can be extremely cautious, self disciplined and controlled I choose. I do excel at deduction (am in analysis for a living! ), use the time waiting for my plans to bear fruit to be more productive & have been said to be reliable, cozy to be around, have a rich sense of humor etc. Guilty of appearing cold and undemonstrative (though I feel intensely true to my sun sign) yet with those I love and trust, affectionate and warmly devoted. The occasional spells of loneliness and needing desperately to be loved stem from being Cancerian as well & I am capable of great sacrifices for an ideal, an ambition, or for those who depend on me. True that I’m as demanding of themselves as of others & struggle with the pursuit of happiness. I think its because while I have been blessed, nothing in my life has come easily to me (I’ve literally earned everything) so fear of loss or unreward bothers me.

I honestly BARELY vibrate to my secondary birth number of 6 but people have said I seem to magnetically attract others/make friends easily, am genuinely loved by friends & associates--and am devoted to the loved one when attached. Do have a sentimental streak, love nice homes and tasteful furnishings but who doesn’t?! Same goes for the deep attachment to nature and a fondness for luxury. Oh also, love debates and discussions & do tend to usually win because of logic but that could be because I’m very analytical and research oriented. Have been complimented on an irresistible smile but lotsa people have those

The 9 vibration (name) applies to me in terms of a tendency to be impulsive and make snap decisions, later regretted, be vulnerable to their enemies because my first instinct is to trust everyone etc. And yes, being direct("what you see is what you get"), I expect others to be the same--and others often are not. Deviousness and manipulation do come as a shock but I’m learning to be more cautious. I do know to be manipulative and play complex strategies but I’d ideally not unless I can’t help it. Being able to penetrate straight to the heart or the core of a situation swiftly does make me extremely impatient of slower thinkers (I’ve been compared to terrier snapping at someone’s heels when people drag out the thinking/decision making!) and impatience with the mistakes of others and with errors of thinking is one of the traits I find the most difficult to control. This has gotten better as I progress in life though coz my own mistakes teach me compassion.

On the compound numbers:

26 Partnerships – I have been accused of helping others but not always the self.
That “26 is full of contradictions. It warns of dangers, disappointments, and failure, especially regarding the ambitions, brought about through bad advice, association with others, and unhappy partnerships of all kinds. If 26 is the Compound Key Number of the name, it might be best to change the name to achieve a more fortunate influence” bothers me.

Don’t know what it means that “If 26 is the birth number, and therefore cannot be altered, the person is counseled to avoid partnerships and pursue the career along, not heeding even the well-intentioned advice of others, but follow only the personal hunches and intuition--although these should be carefully examined for flaws before acting on them”.

27 The Sceptre – Makes me feel a lil better!

33 – Doesn’t this sorta contradict the 8 & 26? So confused!

posted August 12, 2008 08:10 PM            

one more thing, while numbers can be used to unravel one of the many complexities of a personality, i believe like linda says, that there are no 'compatible' or 'incompatible' numbers. and never forget the power of free will..

'love can conquer the influence of the planets, it can even eliminate karma'

-Gooober

posted August 12, 2008 08:29 PM            

I can really relate to what you are saying. This can be so unnerving and confusing. I felt the same way when I read Star Signs almost a year ago.

At first, I wished I had never found out. I was using Law of Attraction techniques and was feeling optimistic. Then after I learned about it I felt so let down. I tried not to believe it but after doing the numbers for my life, relationships, events, and for family, I had to concede. What was worse was that I have so many 4/8 in my life that I can't change.

So I decided to work with the system. I tried to get as much information as I could. There aren't that many books on the Chaldean system but I managed to accumulate several by now, some of them out of print and hard to get. That is how I got a better understanding.
I researched this subject on the internet but it's the same stuff rehashed over and over from the same source. I did find things on related topics, other forms of divination, philosophies from other cultures, and ancient teachings that helped broaden my thinking about so many things. That's the good part.

The way I look at karma now is not so much punishment but lessons by design that once learned brings us to a higher capacity for love of mankind, thus a higher vibration. It made me look at my life and see what lessons were hidden in the challenges I have had, what is the thread that runs through my life, who the players are and what their lessons I might "helping" them with. Saturn can pay off big so I try to work even harder.

The whole numbers thing has opened up a new way of thinking for me this year. Am I happy my birthdate is an 8 with 4s and 8s around me? Heck no, but I'm glad I found out about it. I have since adopted another strong number and make a conscious effort to use it as much as I can. Where possible, I avoid identifying myself with any more 4s or 8s. and try not to begin anything important on those days, favoring my new number. I will also be making a slight name change.

If you wanted to read more on the system, I would suggest starting with Cheiro's "Book of Numbers". You might be able to find it at your library. If not, you could probably get a used copy from Amazon.com. This is the source meterial for the numerology section in Star Signs. Cheiro's book has alot more information about how to make the numbers work for you and how to mitigate some of the problems of the 4s and 8s. (I know that Cheiro's descriptions can sound pretty severe, but keep in mind that he was doing readings in the early 1900's for kings, and heads-of-state. I imagine they were looking for dire warnings and things having to do with warfare.)

Anyway, I hope all this rambling helps. You sound like a nice person with lots of gifts and talents. As you know your name number and secondary birth number is awesome. Two good numbers to work with.

posted August 14, 2008 05:27 AM            

Thank you for your inputs.

Goober,
Now I get what you mean about balance & you’re right - there are times when I feel like a basket case of contradictory emotions, reactions etc! I flatter myself that it keeps me “mysteriously unpredictable”

What you said about the numbers in the background besides just the primary number contributing makes sense too. I’ve read the 4/8 section in addition to the 26 and 8 – There is a statement about 8 people not feeling like they get what they deserve – in my case, though nothing has ever come to me easy / by the proverbial sheer luck (I have REALLY had to work for everything I’ve earned or accumulated) – i acknowledge that atleast it DOES come / i DO reap a harvest. I’ve seen a lot of people, 8 included who have been as deserving or more who haven’t.

I never thought about increasing the 9 and 27 vibrations but will give it a shot. Know how for some reason you’ve always liked a particular number? For me that has always been 6. Never knew why but it has. Was a bit taken aback when I read I should use it more in Linda’s SS. 9 appealed to me coz I’d always think of it as in inverted 6.

posted August 14, 2008 05:28 AM            

I’m trying to get a lot more information too but I work in the Middle East where trust me, anything considered “occult” isn’t easy to come by. Even if I decide to order books online, they’re held at the government organization that scans all material entering the country & are most likely to get held up there. The net has the same issues you described. So the only learning I’m restricted to LG SS. I’ll try and have friends who travel pick up a copy of Cheiro's "Book of Numbers".

I love & believe what you said about Karma but Wow, are you accommodating. I have difficulty being a “when life gives you lemons, make lemonade” person. Heck, I’m more the kind that wants to start flinging the lemons in all relevant directions I’m trying though & a lot of things I had a black & white approach on, I’ve softened. Perhaps my stance remains the same – but I’ve learned not to judge another person & extend love, understanding or compassion. Especially because I’ve found myself in mistakes I’d sat on my high horse raving I’d never make.

I don’t honestly know if I’m happy to have found out about the 8. Especially not when I read the thing about paying a high price for love. I’ve already been through that experience of that which years later, still hurts. I have a lot of 8’s in my life too (family & friends) & eerily enough, love them the most. How did you pick your new strong number (if you don’t mind my asking)? Is there a process over choosing to just go with 6?

I didn’t consider your post to be rambling at all, rather informative & so helpful. Thank you for the compliment you paid me, you sound like a really nice person too and I hope all the changes you’re implementing contribute to a better influence.

posted August 14, 2008 06:15 PM            

You asked how I decided on my new number. There were a few factors I considered. The 6 was initially my first choice per Linda's advice in Star Signs. It makes sense as the 6 energy is not afraid of responsibility and brings in more social abiilty. In Cheiro's book, he does not specify the number 6. He says to change your name to another strong number and use that alot so that it will eventually overtake the 8. The other strong numbers are: 1,3,5,6 and 9. I read something on a Vedic numerology site that said that the Sun and Saturn are enemies, so I eliminated the 1 (1 works great with 4's however). Since numerology works with astrology, I selected a number that the ruling planet had harmonious aspects in my natal chart (it was not the 6). I do not know if this is correct but it makes sense to me and feels right. I later read a book that verifed my choice. Also, it would mean only a slight name change.

As for the LOA, it is my belief that it will at least help to overcome the numbers. There is a high side and a low side to each of the number vibrations. LOA will help us operate on the higher side. I say this because I have noticed that there are plenty of highly successful people with the "fated" 8 birthdate or name. The 8 brings lessons in material wealth and power. We 8's have many excellent qualities that can help us stay on the high side. I like to remember that the Chinese believe that 8 is the luckiest number of all. That's alot of people holding a positive thought form about the number 8. That can only work in our favor.

I just noticed that you are a new member to LindaLand, so a big WELCOME to you!!

posted August 17, 2008 09:05 AM            

I guess its good thing my name totals 27 and singles to 9. That seems to be in keeping with what you said above right?

I can't have my natal chart drawn out because my mom has forgotten my time of birth. I guess i'll just stick with the 6 influence because as stated earlier, i've seemed to instinctively like the number. Reading LG later made it feel as though a light when on.

Thanks for the vote of confidence as far as all the positive things related to the 8 vibration.

posted August 20, 2008 09:26 AM            

Apologies for the delay in replying, crazy couple of days!

Gooober, i'd passed by this aisle in this tiny section of a bookstore located in a clothes mall & didn't see it. For some insane reason, i passed again & here's an LG book sticking out at me - the only 1 i'd read before that was Sun Signs which impressed me. I still can't stay why i picked it up.

Randall, i know what you mean. Kinda

posted August 20, 2008 03:37 PM            

At first I thought that meant our higher selves put it off (when choosing this incarnation before we were born into 3D bodies). Thinking of it that way made me feel powerless. Now I'm wondering if she could have meant our 3D selves, here and now. If that is the case then we do have some control. Linda did say we always have free will and other spiritual teachers say the same. She talks about adding the 6 as a name number so that the lessons won't be so hard. Here we would be using our free will to lighten the burden. She never says we're trying to get out of anything. After all, everyone has lessons to learn. I think she meant that even with hard lesson, life can still can be sweet.