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Topic: Numerology Patterns of Commonly known deities
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iQ Moderator Posts: 4922 From: Lyra Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 04, 2014 08:07 AM
Chief Deity of Arabs ALLAH = 1+3+3+1+5 = 13In the Quran, Allah claims to be the Lord of Thunder, thus fitting with Indra of Vedic Mythology. THUNDER = 4+5+6+5+4+5+2 = 31, the mirror of 13 INDRA = 1+5+4+2+1 = 13 again, a perfect fit. GOD = 14. Thus God as a concept is more elevated than a specific Tribal Deity or Deity of something feared in Nature like Thunder. The Vedic Literature extols Brahma as the Creator, even of Indra. Different "Indras" are made rulers by Brahma in one big Cycle spanning billions of years. BRAHMA = 2+2+1+5+4+1 = 15, a digit more than the value for GOD. "Devas" are Immortals in Vedic Myth. DEVA = 16, a digit more than Brahma. Thus, can a Human Soul that evolves to be an Immortal can be more valuable than a Creative Entity or a Conceptual Deity? Lord Shiva is considered the "Maha Deva" or King of Immortals, and is also said to be the Universal Soul from whom all Human Souls spring out and are connected. SHIVA = 16 as well! The Feminine side of Shiva is Shakti. SHAKTI = 3+5+1+2+4+1 = 16 as well. 1+6 = 7, the Mystic Number. SHIVA+SHAKTI = 16 + 16 = 7 + 7 = 14 or GOD again! Thus, the number patters are a progression for religious consciousness. Fear based religion/tribal religions to Humanitarian Faiths to Creative Deism to Seeking Self Realization/Immortality and ultimately union with the Eternal Universal Soul.
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Lexxigramer Moderator Posts: 4732 From: The Etheric Realms...Still out looking for Schrodinger's cat...& LEXIGRAMMING.♥.. is my Passion! Registered: Feb 2012
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posted July 05, 2014 12:24 AM
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 59748 From: Saturn next to Charmaine Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 05, 2014 12:53 PM
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jollyaries Knowflake Posts: 109 From: Registered: Jun 2014
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posted July 05, 2014 10:17 PM
Where in Quran does Allah claim to be the God of Thunder? Could you provide a source for this? To my knowledge, he claims to be the God of All. Also, why do you think it’s better when the number goes up? Maybe the decline in resultant numbers is a truer representation of progression and of turning back to the Source?Do you know Abjad calculation? Or Hebrew calculation? When you calculate the names of these deities with these two methods, it could yield different results. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 59748 From: Saturn next to Charmaine Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 06, 2014 01:29 PM
What's Abjad?IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 59748 From: Saturn next to Charmaine Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 07, 2014 01:06 PM
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jollyaries Knowflake Posts: 109 From: Registered: Jun 2014
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posted July 07, 2014 08:24 PM
Sorry for the late reply, Randall! Abjad is Arabic system of numerology calculation where, unlike Chaldean system, numbers 9, 2-digit multiples of 10, 3-digits multiples of 100, and 1000 are also assigned to the letters of Arabic alphabet. For instance, according to Abjad, the name Allah has the value 66 (1+30+30+5). While I also think what the OP wrote is an interesting take on the numerological vibration of deities, I don’t find it right to compare the number vibrations of deities that belong to two different religions and attempt to rank them based on resultant numbers and say one is a spiritually superior concept than the other. Maybe this could work with deities belonging to the same religion, but in my opinion comparisons with other religions deities won’t give healthy insights. The Chief deity in Norse Mythology is Odin. Let’s calculate his name; 7+4+1+5=17. Another example; Hubal, a pagan god of Arabs and he is said to be the most powerful of 360 gods worshipped at Mecca in pre-Islamic times. His number vibration is equal to 5+6+2+1+3=17 again! Now, can we say that these two deities and what they represent are superior in a spiritual sense to Shiva, Shakti or Brahman? Also, after reading the original post, I did a quick research to understand where OP might have gotten his information on Allah being the God of Thunder, and could only find a verse that says, “And the thunder exalts Allah with praise of Him - and the angels as well from fear of Him - and He sends thunderbolts and strikes therewith whom He wills while they dispute about Allah ; and He is severe in assault.” Here, it doesn’t say that Allah is the God of Thunder. On the contrary, it says that the thunder exalts and praise Allah and that he is in control of it. A very interesting verse of Quran for sure. It speaks as if the thunder has a consciousness of its own. Anyways, there is another verse that says, “Whatever is in the heavens and earth exalts Allah , and He is the Exalted in Might, the Wise.” So from this it can be understood that not just the thunder but every creation of his exalts and glorifies Allah. If the OP has based his claim that Allah is the God of Thunder on the previous verse, this latter verse could help clear up his misconception. Lastly, there are more than 1 billion Muslims worldwide, fewer than 1/5 of whom are Arab, and calling their God a simple tribal deity and putting forward Vedic deities as more advanced beings representing higher spiritual truths is a disrespectful thing to do and might be perceived as Hinduism promotion. I believe true progression for a human being starts when s/he genuinely has respect for other people’s cultures and religious beliefs. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 59748 From: Saturn next to Charmaine Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 08, 2014 01:25 PM
Interesting! Never heard of it before.IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 59748 From: Saturn next to Charmaine Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 09, 2014 11:35 AM
Arabic numerology sounds intriguing.IP: Logged |
Ellynlvx Knowflake Posts: 10490 From: the Point of Light within the Mind of God Registered: Aug 2013
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posted July 09, 2014 04:59 PM
The basic Numeral Sequence looked the same as Hebrew.IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 59748 From: Saturn next to Charmaine Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 10, 2014 02:12 PM
Ah.IP: Logged |
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posted August 12, 2014 07:02 PM
iQ is very correct. set your heart on fire before the night is throughIP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 59748 From: Saturn next to Charmaine Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 15, 2014 12:38 PM
Very interesting. quote: Originally posted by jollyaries: Sorry for the late reply, Randall! Abjad is Arabic system of numerology calculation where, unlike Chaldean system, numbers 9, 2-digit multiples of 10, 3-digits multiples of 100, and 1000 are also assigned to the letters of Arabic alphabet. For instance, according to Abjad, the name Allah has the value 66 (1+30+30+5). While I also think what the OP wrote is an interesting take on the numerological vibration of deities, I don’t find it right to compare the number vibrations of deities that belong to two different religions and attempt to rank them based on resultant numbers and say one is a spiritually superior concept than the other. Maybe this could work with deities belonging to the same religion, but in my opinion comparisons with other religions deities won’t give healthy insights. The Chief deity in Norse Mythology is Odin. Let’s calculate his name; 7+4+1+5=17. Another example; Hubal, a pagan god of Arabs and he is said to be the most powerful of 360 gods worshipped at Mecca in pre-Islamic times. His number vibration is equal to 5+6+2+1+3=17 again! Now, can we say that these two deities and what they represent are superior in a spiritual sense to Shiva, Shakti or Brahman? Also, after reading the original post, I did a quick research to understand where OP might have gotten his information on Allah being the God of Thunder, and could only find a verse that says, “And the thunder exalts Allah with praise of Him - and the angels as well from fear of Him - and He sends thunderbolts and strikes therewith whom He wills while they dispute about Allah ; and He is severe in assault.” Here, it doesn’t say that Allah is the God of Thunder. On the contrary, it says that the thunder exalts and praise Allah and that he is in control of it. A very interesting verse of Quran for sure. It speaks as if the thunder has a consciousness of its own. Anyways, there is another verse that says, “Whatever is in the heavens and earth exalts Allah , and He is the Exalted in Might, the Wise.” So from this it can be understood that not just the thunder but every creation of his exalts and glorifies Allah. If the OP has based his claim that Allah is the God of Thunder on the previous verse, this latter verse could help clear up his misconception. Lastly, there are more than 1 billion Muslims worldwide, fewer than 1/5 of whom are Arab, and calling their God a simple tribal deity and putting forward Vedic deities as more advanced beings representing higher spiritual truths is a disrespectful thing to do and might be perceived as Hinduism promotion. I believe true progression for a human being starts when s/he genuinely has respect for other people’s cultures and religious beliefs.
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PlutoSurvivor Moderator Posts: 1974 From: USA Registered: Sep 2011
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posted August 26, 2014 07:10 PM
Interesting I looked up Abjad numerology and was redirected to a porn site. Weird. Finally I found the alphabetical numerical correlations. It's based on the decimal system. Total of 28 Letters in the alphabet.First 9 letter values are sequential 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 Next 9 letter values count up by 10s 10,20,30,40,50,60,70,80,90 Remaining 10 letter values count up by 100s 100,200,300,400,500,600,700,800,900,1000 IP: Logged |
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posted August 26, 2014 07:49 PM
@iQ INDRA is MY CONSORT. I fight for him. “I’ve been fighting to be who I am all my life. What’s the point of being who I am, if I can’t have the person who was worth all the fighting for?” ― SD Lennox IP: Logged |
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posted August 26, 2014 08:07 PM
Jolly Aries come join my League!IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 59748 From: Saturn next to Charmaine Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 27, 2014 09:55 AM
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posted August 27, 2014 09:39 PM
I Love ThundeR StORms and SilveR OZols.IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 59748 From: Saturn next to Charmaine Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 06, 2014 03:35 PM
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posted September 06, 2014 07:11 PM
OZols- Latvian OZolins- Canadian
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 59748 From: Saturn next to Charmaine Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 07, 2014 03:39 PM
Ah.IP: Logged |
GemBird82 Knowflake Posts: 903 From: Female bird from France Registered: Feb 2014
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posted September 11, 2014 08:52 PM
I really like numer 16. Sadly, it can be reduced to a 7. The reason for this... I'm still looking for it. Maybe some of you can give some input.- The following are some of the reasons why I said "sadly": The Mystical Number is just a side of the coin. I always use this example, words as: "False God" give us 34 = 7 Baal = 2113 = 7 = False God Amun = 1465 = 16 = 7 Yes, yes! Both look like that! and I don't really buy the typical idea of a metaphorical representation. Another casuality is that this being called The Lord, (also known as Jehovah) fougth both of them. ------------------ ~Il n'est rien de réel que le rêve et l'amour~
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GemBird82 Knowflake Posts: 903 From: Female bird from France Registered: Feb 2014
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posted September 11, 2014 09:07 PM
I almost forgot... I don't understand why AMUN has number 16 And ATEN, the Solar Disc has number 15 That question has been chasing me for about a Decade. (Oh and I have to say, I believe this is my very first incarnation as a white race, for 'X','Y','Z' reasons).Another HORRIBLE "PUZZLE" is that Quran says ALLAH is... The Lord of Sirius. No comments about that, more doubts without answer. ATEN = 1455 = 555 = 15 = 6 SIRIUS = 312163 = 16 = 7 (??????????????????) ======================================== The funny thing, is that I earned a few good 'karmas' for being a worshipper of ATEN in Egypt (and rejected to worship Amun). In my Heliocentric and natal, it says 'well done'. I have a TON of things to say about number 7, but since this forum section is a bit dead, I don't think it's really necessary to start a new post. ------------------ ~Il n'est rien de réel que le rêve et l'amour~
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 59748 From: Saturn next to Charmaine Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 12, 2014 02:24 PM
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 59748 From: Saturn next to Charmaine Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 13, 2014 01:16 PM
You can still post it here. This one may pick up soon.IP: Logged | |